[PooDog]

Originally Posted by tweeked

Not at all. Even the anti vaxxers (2 of them!!) in my family have decided to get vaccinated, their love of travel is the ONLY reason they are getting it. The ONLY reason deaths will be as high as outlined is that there will be 30% of people who dont trust the vaccine. The world cannot stop for them, it is an opt in (and always should be).

If someone in my family decides not to get vaccinated, it is their choice, but I will not keep society hostage due to their choice.

You will not keep it out forever, you will have to ban all travel to NZ if you want to live a life in an ark. It is not just UK and US, it is Italy, France - everywhere else. Both AUS and NZ did well, but in my opinion time is right to get everyone who wants a vaccine to have one, then take it on. NZ will wither away and be left behind if you stay in a cocoon for 5 or more years.

If the anti vaxers think its more vital to travel OS then theyre not true anti vaxers more like not keen on it like a lot of people ....like i was

We wont lock away for five years ....we'd be like cave dwellers .....has that been said before ....did someone say that , think it might have been

I disagree dont think the timings right to open up just my opinion ...good luck to you if you do