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Originally Posted by leesa
Is there a line that you'd be happy to draw for accepted covid deaths each year? If so, what is that number? Sorry guys, if we reach the tipping point then it looks like you and your families are out of luck.
For anyone who is horrified that names were being referenced as potential victims of this new post-tipping-point world... you probably should be horrified.
It's easy to say that we should just accept a portion of people as collateral damage when it all gets too difficult for the rest of society to live with covid suppression, but it's a bit harder when they're real people and not just statistics, isn't it? I hope it's harder, at least.
You shouldn't feel any differently about the plan when the end result affects people anonymously versus when it affects people that you know. If you do feel differently then I'd suggest it's because you know it's wrong, and that you're just prepared to accept it provided it doesn't happen to anyone you're close with.
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Even though my wife is part of your quotes, the reality is that we will have to end up accepting some level of deaths from COVID as I have been saying for 2 years now. All that has really been debatable is what that level actually is. Influenza deaths in Australia average <500 over any 10 year period but they are also very inconsistent year-to-year. For example, 2017 (1,181) and 2019 (902) were bad years but 2016 (273) and 2018 (148) weren't while during COVID restrictions 2020 only had 36 and 2021 had exactly zero.
If anything, flu deaths are often more tragic as they impact the very young as much as the old but we have come to accept a 'level' of deaths.
Last year we had 1,323 COVID deaths which was ~2.5x the 10-year average for Influenza if we ignore the anomaly of the last two years. while this year we are already at 2,500+ and it's not even the end of February so I'd think we haven't reached an acceptable number yet even if the CMR is overall lower.
As for your comments about moderation, let me tell you that they came awfully close to earning you a ban. If you have an issue with the moderation on this forum then there are channels provided for you to express those views without having a public bleat about it.