hey ford fans i need some help!!!!!

[rb on p]

hey guys!!!

I currently own a Nissan Skyline gtst (stock standard), and my old man wants to race me at the strip mid this year in his xr8 ute, it was in th ford perfomance issue in dec05/jan06, EZPEEL, a nz ute but since then has undergone a better exhast system,

the current mods are:
ss induction cold air intake and shaker kit,
BMC filter,
CAPA flash tuner,
full stainless exhaust and its 5speed manual

the guy he brought it off sed itll be puting about 330kw at the flywheel

but i was asking what sortve times will this run the 1/4 in ruffly, im guessin pretty quick but im not sure, i just need to know what kindve mods i need so i dont look stupid

cheers
cole , nz

[XR8putts]

Is yours an R32, R33 or R34? Having owned an R32 GTS-T as my first car, I'd say the modded Falcon would win.

[rb on p]

r32 yeh but i have mate with a coupl of grand spent on there gtst can easly beat those new 307clubys

[Casablanca]

yep the easiest couple of mods that will own in a r32 gts-t is as follows:

intercooler and piping + hi-flow turbo (make sure it's a steel wheel version)
boost tap or electronic boost controller
flash tune or standalone EMS (tuned to whatever boost is decent generally 18psi is ok)
as long as it's a decent turbo
exhaust
injectors

all up for me cost bout 5000 dollars
and it put out about 415bhp
then you look at power to weight and it kicks butt.

[rb on p]

yer thats what i mean im not sure on wot my old mans ute would run the 1/4 tho?

[prydey]

those mods on an xr8 will see around 220rwkw give or take, depending on car and dyno. this usually equates to a 1/4 somewhere in the mid to high 13's.

an rb25 won't need a whole lot of work to be competitive.

[bodes-sh]

well if it's putting out 330fwkw I'd really hope that's more than 220rwkw or I wouldn't be very happy

[Hoops]

330fwkw is "approximately" 246rwkw, i would say a high 13 second 1/4.

[sprjenkins]

Originally Posted by Hoops

330fwkw is "approximately" 246rwkw, i would say a high 13 second 1/4.

Factoring a what, 25.5% drivetrain loss. ZF gearboxes, in fact all modern gearboxes are usually around 10% loss, maybe 20% at the very far out side.

330fwkw should be around 300rwkw

[sprjenkins]

Your R32 is lighter which will help but it only has a 2litre engine, which won't. While the R32 GTR had a 2.6 litre it wasn't until the R33 that the GTS-T got a 2.5L.

High Performance Imports reckon that this is the way to get 270RWKW out of a R32 GTS-T.

Exhaust $500-$1000 140RWKW

Intercooler $400-$1000 150RWKW

ROM Tune $200-$600 165RWKW

Turbo Swap/Fuel Pump Upgrade/Re-Tune $1500-$4500 220 RWKW

Big Kit: ie big turbo TD-06 or large Garrett/ aftermarket engine management / multiplate clutch / R33 GTS-T gearbox $6000 270 RWKW.

If you don't wan't to do it in stages you can cut costs by not replicating thing like fuel systems and tuning. However still look to budget the better part of 10G if you want to beat a 330FWKW Falcon and then be able to drive home afterwards.

If you want to read the whole article from the mag PM me and i'll scan it and email it to you.

[Wally]

Originally Posted by sprjenkins

Factoring a what, 25.5% drivetrain loss. ZF gearboxes, in fact all modern gearboxes are usually around 10% loss, maybe 20% at the very far out side.

330fwkw should be around 300rwkw

I think you'll find the drivetrain drops between 60 & 70 kW.

[sprjenkins]

Originally Posted by Wally

I think you'll find the drivetrain drops between 60 & 70 kW.

http://www.rototestinstitute.org/pop...p?ChartsID=579

Thats a BMW 7 series. Uses the same 6 speed ZF Auto box that Ford uses.

http://www.rototestinstitute.org/pop...p?ChartsID=645

Thats an Audi S6 that uses the same box

http://www.rototestinstitute.org/pop...hp?ChartsID=80

Jag XJ8

All use the same Auto box as the Falcon. How come none of them drop so much from the flywheel to the rear wheels. Is it that Ford's have over-rated power figures?

[prydey]

Originally Posted by bodes-sh

well if it's putting out 330fwkw I'd really hope that's more than 220rwkw or I wouldn't be very happy

i said 220ish rear wheel because unless he's had the motor out, flywheel kw is just a guess. unless there are other mods, the ones mentioned will not add 70kw to the factory output. 330flywheel kw is a stretch if you ask me.

however thats not the question. as has been mentioned the answer may be better searched for on another forum.

[InfernoSR]

How much you willing to spend on your car? the more money the faster it goes...

[Feathers]

You could also try asking here: http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/forums.html

They should have a better idea on the skyline side of things.

[R0BD0G]

lets just all agree that the skylines shouldnt compete with a ford. it might be a waste of precious petrol and time

[rb on p]

hey thanks guys lol was just going to upgrade the exhaust, extractors maybe a t35 garret , 550hp fuel pump and a computer so tht should easly shut him up lol

cheers cole

[vanman_75]

ahh come here to embarress us eh. skyline you say just be careful the old fella doenst come on and get some hints himself . i pity the fool. lol

[Falcon4L]

I know stock BA's drop at least 40kw. This is 6 cylinder. Not sure what the 8's drop

[cob115]

[QUOTE=rb on p]hey guys!!!

I currently own a Nissan Skyline gtst (stock standard), and my old man wants to race me at the strip mid this year in his xr8 ute,

Go your old man!!!dont want to rain on your skyline (but i want your dad to kick your ***)i had a drag with a sky line in my 429 big block all i remeber is seeing him in my mirror.Dad teach your boy a lesson!gooooo ford go,oh please post pics

[scoupedy]

I'm with cob,

but if you wanna win just suggest a course with corners

[Unco]

Originally Posted by rb on p

i just need to know what kindve mods i need so i dont look stupid

a car with a V8 in it

[red_hotxr6]

Originally Posted by rb on p

hey guys!!!

I currently own a Nissan Skyline gtst (stock standard), and my old man wants to race me at the strip mid this year in his xr8 ute, it was in th ford perfomance issue in dec05/jan06, EZPEEL, a nz ute but since then has undergone a better exhast system,

the current mods are:
ss induction cold air intake and shaker kit,
BMC filter,
CAPA flash tuner,
full stainless exhaust and its 5speed manual

the guy he brought it off sed itll be puting about 330kw at the flywheel

but i was asking what sortve times will this run the 1/4 in ruffly, im guessin pretty quick but im not sure, i just need to know what kindve mods i need so i dont look stupid

cheers
cole , nz

I love this one, you drive a nissan, and you come on a ford forum trying to pick these guys brains on how to beat a FORD, good one...i really do love it...tell him how to do it guys...

[Casablanca]

i already did nah i still want to see the ford win but if he has the money he will destroy his dad, can't wait to see it. i know i beat most v8's in my skyline no problems.

btw i have a r33 gts-t, packed with goodies lol and an escort so you can't say i'm not loyal :

[MrEL]

Son spends 5g on Skyline mods to beat his old man.
Old man spends 5g on mods to beat son.
Son spends another................................
Oh the circle of life.
Can anyone else see the resemblance to the cartoon "Foghorn and Leghorn"?
"I say boy Ill show you how its done..................."

[Fev]

cmon guys dont underestimate the GTSt's. 5k in one is like throwing 5k at an Xr6t, huge results.

I would say if your budget isnt huge Apexi powerCai, intercooler and 2.5inch piping, full exhaust inc turbo manifold, 2.5 inch exhaust all the way back, injectors, fuel pump, ignition, larger turbo if you can afford it, get it all tuned and get some good tyres on there and you will have a pretty good chance

[apolloxbgt]

Originally Posted by Fev

cmon guys dont underestimate the GTSt's. 5k in one is like throwing 5k at an Xr6t, huge results.

Not quite,the xr6t already has the gt350 turbo.

Originally Posted by Fev

I would say if your budget isnt huge Apexi powerCai, intercooler and 2.5inch piping, full exhaust inc turbo manifold, 2.5 inch exhaust all the way back, injectors, fuel pump, ignition, larger turbo if you can afford it, get it all tuned and get some good tyres on there and you will have a pretty good chance

I would say you just blew a lot more than 5k.

[ch33z1l]

Xr8's tend to bog down a lot on the strip...expect a lot of wheel spin from your Dad's Ford. GTS would have to expect a better launch. Is it AWD?

[Fev]

my list Inc the turbo, fitting andtuning i reckon would amount to around 8-9k depending on how good the prices you get the parts for

[phillyc]

Your dad's falcon is going to kick your butt!

My mate has a R33 GTS-t 2.5L and spent probably about 6k to get it to a dyno'd 185rwkw. It's a quick car with a mid 13s 1/4mile. But your starting with an older albeit lighter car, with 20% less capacity.