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Old 12-03-2009, 01:22 PM   #1
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Hi all.

Decided that its time to replace the clutch. The current one is absolutely buggered.

So I need some idea's.

At the moment I have two basic options:

1. A std sort of heavy duty clutch - i'm not quite sure how long that may last?

2. Brass Button - never had any experience with them, but from what i've heard, can put up with a bit more punishment?

So what does everyone think. Its going into my xr8, specs in signature below.

I'm leaning towards just the heavy duty style, but am not quite sure???

Thoughts?

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Old 12-03-2009, 02:26 PM   #2
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I've used the Mal Wood organic clutch in both my XR8's now and would recommend them.

Unsure of the rating in them, however my mate has a blown AU with the same clutch and holds the power without a problem.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:38 PM   #3
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I'm going for my third clutch next Monday, my last clutch was Xtreme HD with organic disc and have no complaints. This time I'm going Exedy HD with organic.

I would stay away from brass button unless you supercharge or stroke your car.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:52 PM   #4
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Just got off the phone to the clutch place.

They have quotes me for two options

$985 - For the Exedy (sp?) Heavy duty clutch, including new spigot bearing and rear main oil seal

Or $1170 - for the Exedy Cussioned brass button - he seems to think its not as on / off as a typical brass button and maybe be better for my application. + spigot bearing and rear main

How do these options sound? Weigh up?

I do intend on going a fair bit further with my car mod wise, and he seems to think at the current power level, the heavy duty one would be fine. But he did warn me that because i'm pursuing the occasional track day and intend on getting more power, that maybe the couple of hundred extra might be well spent?

CraigAU3220 - How much power are you putting out? and how well has the std hd clutch lasted? You mentioned your 3rd clutch????
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Old 12-03-2009, 08:43 PM   #5
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Depends on how much track time it will see. I've got an Exedy Heavy Duty in my daily driven XR8 347 stroker and it handles anything I give to it on the street and still feels like a standard clutch to drive.
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Old 12-03-2009, 02:56 PM   #6
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I'd go with the malwood option mate, seem to handle a fair bit of punishment with no negatives to the driving experience.
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Old 12-03-2009, 03:58 PM   #7
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:28 PM   #8
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Check with Race Brakes Sydney (Site Sponser) if you go Exedy, they quoted me around $800 for Cushioned Button Exedy (A few months ago though, prices may have changed now)

EDIT: A heavy duty "Roller" spigot bearing is like $7 from Coventry's
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James, My car puts out 212rwkw.

When i bought my car it had 40,000km on it and then i started going to the motorplex fairly regular so the std clutch probably was good for roughly 80 to 100 runs. I only replaced it because it lost its sweet spot at the drags but was still fine for the street.
The extreme clutch that's in there now has lasted about a year and a half but has done 100 runs easy, it to is still fine for the street but no good for the drags any more,eg; on launch the pedal hangs close to the floor and only recovers just before its time to look for second. also effects 1/4 mile times.
I don't think the problem is the organic disc i reckon its the pressure plate.

PS, shop around mine cost me $620 supply only. Part # FMK-6973HD
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Old 12-03-2009, 09:57 PM   #10
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Old 13-03-2009, 08:02 AM   #11
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ok then so, does everyone think $985 - for the HD supplied / fitted and replacing the rear main is a good price?
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ok then so, does everyone think $985 - for the HD supplied / fitted and replacing the rear main is a good price?
Yes, I think so.
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Old 14-03-2009, 12:18 AM   #15
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Exedy Cussioned brass button is what i have and it takes a flogging, im more worried about the gear box smashing then the clutch,
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Old 14-03-2009, 05:57 AM   #16
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ive got an xtreme heavy duty, and i did smash my t5z and the clutch never slipped.

i have never had an xtreme heavy duty slip.

i found that when i got my xtreme clutch put in the clutch felt lighter to engage, and it was only the grab point that was different.
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Old 14-03-2009, 10:35 AM   #17
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Im running an Xtreme Xtra Heavy duty dampened cushion button clutch for an XR6T behind the 6 speed, I give it a fair bit of stick and its been a great clutch but the AU isnt a daily. How ever using such clutch in a daily driven car I wouldnt recomend nor if you did a fair bit of city or heavy traffic driving. With this clutch you need to give a bit of hard time to make it easy to drive also running a lightened flywheel.



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Hey, James.

Just had my Exedy HD clutch fitted today and must say the pedal feel is much lighter than the Extreme clutch that was previously in there.

Regards, Craig.
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Cheers people. I have the car booked in thursday to replace the clutch. Just gonna go for the Exedy HD. Hopefully it'll be up to the task, but from what everyone has said here, I don't think there will be any drama's. Thanks all. :-)
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Hey, james. How did you go, did you get your cluth done?
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Yeah mate, got it put in yesterday. No drama's at all $985 and they had my car for 5 hours or so.

Only problem is... I gotta learn how to drive my car all over again lol. This clutch is so sensitive, it's hard to drive smoothly. I suppose it'll take a couple of days to get used to it, and a few days for it wear in a little bit.

The pickup point is like 2mm above the floor. The second you lift your toes, your off and away, no slipping.

I can see myself liking it... the gearbox on the other hand is not going to agree with me I think.

But yeah well worth the money.
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Take it for a drive over on saturday arvo... and meet my local fabricator in person...

Good excuse to break in the clutch... lol!
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James, James, James.....

What you NEED to do is what I'm going to do. Destroy your box. That's right DESTROY it, make it go BANG.

That way you have an excuse to go for a T56, get a reco one from a commodore (they're a LOT cheaper) along with a custom bellhousing and cross member from either Dellow or Mal Wood and you are laughing.
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What you NEED to do is what I'm going to do. Destroy your box. That's right DESTROY it, make it go BANG.

That way you have an excuse to go for a T56, get a reco one from a commodore (they're a LOT cheaper) along with a custom bellhousing and cross member from either Dellow or Mal Wood and you are laughing.
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James, James, James.....

What you NEED to do is what I'm going to do. Destroy your box. That's right DESTROY it, make it go BANG.

That way you have an excuse to go for a T56, get a reco one from a commodore (they're a LOT cheaper) along with a custom bellhousing and cross member from either Dellow or Mal Wood and you are laughing.

Relevant to my interests, any more information on this ?
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Hey guys just wondering if anyone has the prices for an excedy hd and hd button clutch. Had a crack on a mates burnout slab and after 3 sets of tires im left with no clutch
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Old 23-03-2009, 07:36 AM   #27
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Hd exedy cost me $985 installed. The cussioned button was going to be $200 more so - $1185
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Nice just bought the Exedy HD today, $400 for clutch and will be installed in a couple days.
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