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17-12-2009, 09:17 AM | #1 | |||
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From http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/pol...216-kxdw.html:
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It couldn't be so that the corporation can sue the protesters? What a backhanded way of preventing protesting... if the police stepped in, there'd be an outcry, but if a private corporation sues some protesters for lost profits, well, surely that's okay? |
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17-12-2009, 09:40 AM | #2 | ||
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the system is so broken now that they only way to beat it is to become part of it. become a politician, banker, law enforcement agency or special interest group & rake in the dollars.
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17-12-2009, 09:47 AM | #3 | ||
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We need someone to come in and say Stop the bull****. Unfortunantly there is no one with the balls to do it in a position of power. That is the problem.
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17-12-2009, 01:30 PM | #4 | |||
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and thats why it needs to come from a civilian. |
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17-12-2009, 01:52 PM | #5 | |||
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I would like to see a mass walk out in NSW in protest to the corruption in the land deals and the fact that one politician with questionable dealings is now premier! A million people walking out of work at once would have a big impact... unfortunately, that '60s spirit seems to be gone. |
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17-12-2009, 02:47 PM | #6 | |||
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won't happen. because people are afraid. afraid of media destroying them. afraid of people laughing at them. afraid of being locked up. afraid of giving up a satday night when they can be out getting smashed with mates. |
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17-12-2009, 11:09 PM | #7 | |||
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18-12-2009, 02:59 PM | #9 | |||
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good luck . i had a friend a few years younger than i who joined the labor party some years ago . this guy was strong veiwed had strong opinions and a strong will to do what he thought would be right by everyone , this guy was well educated and could politically motivate people and had no problem winning an arguement whilst making great points which he could back up with literature, everyone that new this young bloke wished him well as he was a very switched on good bloke with nothing in the closet , and a very charismatic charactor , all that new him wished him well and hoped that he would succeed, he was working in canberra in a real political junior position as well . he was tossed out by kim beazly deemed not towing the line and doing as he was told, he was replaced by people the labor party through in office by choice , not by democratic election . good luck . this fellow had all the right ingredients , but found out the govt does not work that way. |
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17-12-2009, 03:15 PM | #10 | ||
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Question: Are other countries this bad?
As for privacy...what can you do? ANZ already sells your details...known fact.
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17-12-2009, 04:03 PM | #11 | |||
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there a countries much worse. the answer to your question is actually a another question should we judge ourselves on how much right or wrong WE do based on other countries? ie. we have less road deaths then other countries but we have a smaller population. but PER CAPITA we are much higher then some euro countries. we still doing the right thing? Last edited by ltd_on20s; 17-12-2009 at 04:09 PM. |
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17-12-2009, 04:19 PM | #12 | ||
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The corporations would use the protesters details to pressure and intimidate their employers, family, landlords etc.
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17-12-2009, 04:28 PM | #13 | |||
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corporations and governments don't really care about protesters anymore. throw them(protesters) a bone every now and again and they go away. so the real issue never gets adddressed. 30+ million people around the world protested for no war with iraq. they went ahead with it anyway. |
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18-12-2009, 11:25 AM | #14 | ||||
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Personal view, I had no problem knocking off Saddam, regardless of WMD argument. Occupation, in the hope of creating a more stable place is another matter. Quote:
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17-12-2009, 04:45 PM | #16 | ||
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farque me . sorry to say but APETHY has prevailed for so long in this country now . young people actually think everything is ok .
it aint gonna happen . just give away your cake . |
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17-12-2009, 09:50 PM | #17 | |||
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1. It's spelled apathy 2. I must be an exception to the rule (or statement) here, umbrella labelling like the example above is just another way in which ignorance (the other problem, that goes hand in hand with apathy) prevails. It all hurts to the point that I try to forget (not that it's really ever forgotten) about it all, thinking about the negativity and oppression that is forced upon us as a nation/society. I too wish I could do something, but the numbers just aren't there, are they? The ratio of people in each region/town/city of those who care versus those who don't is just more depressing and a greater reminder of how difficult it would actually be to attempt to alter the path we're being coerced to take at the moment. |
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17-12-2009, 10:59 PM | #18 | ||
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Its made all the more difficult by the governments of the day when they bring in such things as the ISP Internet Filtering, the ‘cause for inciting a riot’ clause of the anti-terrorist laws (could be corrected on that) and the hardened stance on anything remotely Vigilante. They want everyone to dob-in-a-mate at work and in society in general which stops people from “getting organised” and give us the Neighbourhood Watch just to make vigilante wannabies feel they are doing something yet it is all controlled.
They already know what happens in other parts of the world, and revolutions in history and have taken steps to try and limit the possibility of the same happening in Aust. Even though the younguns seem as though they dont believe in anything, or would stand for anything, I’m sure they’ll get bitten right where it hurts one day and they’ll react accordingly. In some ways they already do, as today generations Y and Z must be the most rebellious generations ever. Trouble is, they direct their rebellion at the common people, rather than the law makers. There needs to be knew ways of protesting for joe average, as people are bored with old ways such as writing to your local pollie – these old ways just dont really work effectively, people know it and feel there is no other choice but to sit back and cop it. At least until something happens to them personally then they want the world to help them. In the end, it wont matter what laws they make and what the media has to say, when people have had enough, no laws are going to stop them. Right or wrong, thats my 2c worth
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17-12-2009, 04:50 PM | #19 | ||
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The government will still bend us over the table because no one stands up for themselves anymore, one person does then they get the example made out of them. no one in this country stands up for themselves, they just let us get pushed around and dont fight back.
Also what the hell is a petition going to do? The CEO or who ever it is incharge of who you are making the petition will be like "Oh look a piece of paper with everyones names on it, I'll carefully file this in the I dont give a crap section". |
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17-12-2009, 05:01 PM | #20 | ||
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YEP , take employment rights for example, people nowadays argue against them , the media tell us everyday how great everything is , the last recession was a hiccup everyone says , well my super doesnt say so, LPG up 50% in 12 months anyone noticed, groceries electricity rates water and taxes rising blahh blahh blahh . yeah we're still surviving i'm sure i suddenly slipped from top 20% to struggle street and still in top 20% they say.
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18-12-2009, 12:14 AM | #21 | ||
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There is unlikely to be action in Australia, ever.
This is because of our large middle class. Middle class people are happy for things to stay more or less the way they are and won't protest too much if changes for the worse are made bit by bit. We live in our comfort zone, where we go to work, come home, have dinner, watch telly etc till the week end. Pub discussions almost always avoid anything too controversial especially politics, or anything deep. Too hard. Look at any place that has had protest action serious enough to force a "regime change" - Fiji, Thailand, almost any African country. All with a small middle class (who are comfortable and have much to lose), and large lower classes (very little to lose, and usually drastically affected by the policy(ies) that they're protesting about. Let's not forget Australia grew up with a "she'll be right, mate" attitude. The other one we seem to have forgotten is "fair go, mate". "Australia is a lucky country, run mainly by second-rate people who share its luck" - Donald Horne, The Lucky Country 1964. Just as true today, if not more so. Cheers :
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18-12-2009, 09:34 PM | #22 | |||
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18-12-2009, 12:24 AM | #23 | ||
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all brilliant posts here . good to see. i tend to think it is the ones under 20 today that will fight for a decent living standard when they start to work things out .the peopl;e by and large between 20 and 35 today are more like it's all " she'll be right mate i'll move out of home and get married and build a house one day .when i find a job that lasts more than a year , and when the times right .
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18-12-2009, 09:43 PM | #24 | ||
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All ready taking place in Industry, It's called ERMS
One click and a employer can find out everything about a potential employee, cut's down in interviews, Get "Black listed" on ERMS and good luck to ya!
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18-12-2009, 10:16 PM | #25 | ||
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I cant complain.........
I decided years ago that thinking about it is a waste of time. You will be taxed to death, and then after it, get used to it....... There is just too many do-gooders out there. I shouldnt post because I try to be impartial. DONT ENCOURAGE THE MONGRELS , DONT VOTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :togo: . . . .
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19-12-2009, 01:16 PM | #26 | |||
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Slightly off-topic maybe?
From: http://www.news.com.au/entertainment...-1225811953116 Quote:
EXPLAIN how dirty jokes and references were necessary to the show.' : |
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19-12-2009, 01:24 PM | #27 | ||
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stick your head out of the window and shout
"I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" or at least borrow the movie 'network' and watch someone else do it. old movie from the 70's I think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08 |
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