Following too closely ticket

[phoenix99]

Today I got pulled over for "following too closely", I didn't realise I was doing this as i was checking over my should numerous times to change lanes. No excuses happy to cop it as I was in the wrong.

The police said it should be a fine under $200. However that was it, I asked about the demerit points he wasn't sure.

Question: is it just a fine or fine with demerit points?

[Melz]

I thought everything came with loss of points

[AWD Chaser]

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/in...bmitButton.y=8


DISTANCE (TAILGATING)
Drive behind other vehicle too closely to stop safely
$338, 3 points

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Kia Chaser

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/in...bmitButton.y=8


DISTANCE (TAILGATING)
Drive behind other vehicle too closely to stop safely
$338, 3 points

In Queensland, it's 1 point and $233

You'd think they'd split the difference and make it 2 points and $300....

[Peuty]

Following too closely? As in tailgating?

Ah well, such is life.

[Linkachu]

Vic its around $220 and 3 points.

[SVTVNM]

Reminds me the first fine I ever received as a young P-plate driver was this exact fine, Back in 96'. I was doing 90 behind a car and wanted to overtake but the interceptor behind me was making me nervous because I didnt want to get done for speeding if I overtook. Needless to say I got a bit close to the car infront of me, and I got done. The fine is fair enough but I recon 3 points is a bit harsh IMO.

[phoenix99]

i think i have answered my question after a bit of trolling on vicroads

Demerit Point Offences No. of Points

10 points
•Drivers subject to zero BAC# with a BAC of between 0.00% and .05%
•Drivers subject to .05% BAC with a BAC of .05% but less than .07%
•Driving under the influence of illicit drugs

8 Points
•Exceed speed limit by 45km/h or more*


6 points
•Exceed speed limit by 35km/h or more but less than 45km/h*

4 points

•Exceed speed limit by 25km/h or more but less than 35km/h*
•Rail level crossing offence
•Driving fatigue regulated heavy vehicle in contravention of maximum work requirement - critical risk offence
•Driving fatigue regulated heavy vehicle in contravention of minimum rest requirement - critical risk offence


3 points
•Exceed speed limit by 10km/h or more but less than 25km/h*
•Disobey traffic lights, signs or police directing traffic
•Fail to give way or stop
•Drive without wearing a helmet (motorcycle), seat belt, or a properly adjusted and fastened seat belt, or with an unrestrained passenger under 16
•Drive on wrong side of double lines, or divided highway
•Risk colliding with alighting, boarding or waiting tram passengers
•Driving fatigue regulated heavy vehicle while impaired by fatigue
•Driving fatigue regulated heavy vehicle in contravention of maximum work requirement - severe risk offence
•Driving fatigue regulated heavy vehicle in contravention of minimum rest requirement - sever risk offence
•Driving contrary to a major defect notice
•Careless driving
•Using a mobile phone illegally while driving
•Probationary driver who drives a high powered vehicle on a road
•Peer passenger restrictions (P1)
•Driving with an obscured or improperly displayed number plate
•Failure to display P plates

2 points
•Improper overtaking or passing
•Turn or stop without signalling
•Turn improperly
•Fail to keep left

1 point
•Exceed speed limit by less than 10km/h*
•Driving contrary to a minor defect notice
•Fail to dip headlights
•Driving at night without headlights and tail lights on
•Follow too closely




also some other article said it was $158 and 1 demerit point

[chrisfpv]

In that list above, some of them are an absolute joke.

Failing to display P plates shouldn't be worth 3 points at all and driving without headights on at night is worth only 1 point? Seriously?

Driving without headlights on at night should be 3 - 4 points ATLEAST!

God I hate Victoria.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by XR

In that list above, some of them are an absolute joke.

Failing to display P plates shouldn't be worth 3 points at all and driving without headights on at night is worth only 1 point? Seriously?

Driving without headlights on at night should be 3 - 4 points ATLEAST!

God I hate Victoria.

It's bad in NSW as well, not displaying a P plate is 2 points and $200 FFS! I copped it three times, which is currently half my license gone - one of those times the plates were stolen (not uncommon) and another time the P plate "wasnt displayed properly" as I used the number plate to hold it down.


As for tailgating, I hate *****'s that do this and I'd be happy if it was 20 points and 6 months jail time. I had some idiot do it to me the other night for 20 minutes straight, he would have been no more than a metre behind me for most of the way, combined with random high beaming even though I was doing the limit on cruise control.

[tranquilized]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

As for tailgating, I hate *****'s that do this and I'd be happy if it was 20 points and 6 months jail time. I had some idiot do it to me the other night for 20 minutes straight, he would have been no more than a metre behind me for most of the way, combined with random high beaming even though I was doing the limit on cruise control.

You weren't sitting in the right lane of a divided highway/freeway were you?

Either way, why didn't you just let them pass?

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

As for tailgating, I hate *****'s that do this and I'd be happy if it was 20 points and 6 months jail time. I had some idiot do it to me the other night for 20 minutes straight, he would have been no more than a metre behind me for most of the way, combined with random high beaming even though I was doing the limit on cruise control.

So, you admitted to blocking the right lane for 20 minutes... At 100kmh you blocked someone for 33kms. Well done for being a passive aggressive.

I don't agree with sitting so close, not in any way. But I do absolutely agree with the use of flashing his lights. In Europe it's a 'move over' to reduce congestion and trucks use it here to help each other out with manoevring. My motorbike has a 'pass button' which is the high beam light. I use it sparingly.

Doing what you did just makes people so inclined to do something rash.

If you think the person is driving dangerously, then the best thing is to let them past and away from you. Self preservation if nothing else. Ten kays down the road if they are pulled over by a copper and you wan't to add your piece, stop and join if you feel the need.

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[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by XR

In that list above, some of them are an absolute joke.

Failing to display P plates shouldn't be worth 3 points at all and driving without headights on at night is worth only 1 point? Seriously?

Driving without headlights on at night should be 3 - 4 points ATLEAST!

God I hate Victoria.

i dont' see the point of displaying p plates. i mean what purpose to they serve other than label you a hoon?
i hated them when i was on p's and they constantly blew off the car.

[zdcol71]

Originally Posted by aussie muscle

i dont' see the point of displaying p plates. i mean what purpose to they serve other than label you a hoon?
i hated them when i was on p's and they constantly blew off the car.

P plates wre mandatory in QLD many years ago, then taken off the "mandatory" list for a long time and are once again required.
When they were first required it was always a good indication to other road users that the p driver was relatively inexperienced, and got some measure of assistance re tolerance,patience etc. I think I recall most p platers appreciated that and turned out to be a little less likely to become enraged on the road when they were caught up in trying situations.Seems nowadays a lot of inexperienced P drivers seem to take pleasure in seeing how many rules they can push whilst not displaying the plate.(how many times has anyone "seen" a p plate displayed behind a unit or pornstar stiker( might all sound a little like generalisation, but I'm sure it's more the norm than not)
I still think it's a privilege to have a licence, p or any other, and despite what the big brother ,conspiratorists will think, a p plate is like a number plate or rego sticker, it identifies you, in this case as a new and inexperienced driver that the rest of the road going public should be aware of. Sorry if this is a little off topic, or a rant!

[dannyhilton]

I did an AAMI driving cource (reduces my insurance premium by 10%) and the most valuable lesson from this was a minimum of two seconds between the car infront and your front bumper, though three seconds was much better, double that in harsh weather conditions. People may cut infront of you, meh, let em do it, people like that will learn their lesson sooner or later when the cops start targeting tailgaters. QLD is full of them.

[morak001]

I got tailgated once too often, several new panels and 1/2 of a paint job later......
The bloke behind me got paid out (write off) from his fully comp. insurance, the bloke tailgating him was uninsured and possibly still paying for two cars after wrapping his radiator neatly around his 3.8 V6.
Could easily have been much worse than a fine and a few demerits.

[svo supporter]

Get a fine, definately loose demerit points.

I do tip my hat at you for accepting you did wrong, but it does seem a little harsh coping it from the law, judging by what you said the circumstances were.

[sk8xr8]

Originally Posted by phoenix99

Today I got pulled over for "following too closely", I didn't realise I was doing this as i was checking over my should numerous times to change lanes. No excuses happy to cop it as I was in the wrong.

The police said it should be a fine under $200. However that was it, I asked about the demerit points he wasn't sure.

Question: is it just a fine or fine with demerit points?

kudos to this bloke for bein a man and not ************!n about it like so many other people, its a rare thing these days to see anyone that actually owns up and cops it on the chin, take my hat off to you.

[charles_wif_xf]

Nah, I'm with Adrenaline, if I'm doing the speed limit (most of the time, I'm a few over on the cruise control), then I'm sitting in the right lane on a multi lane road for as long as I see fit.

[tranquilized]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Nah, I'm with Adrenaline, if I'm doing the speed limit (most of the time, I'm a few over on the cruise control), then I'm sitting in the right lane on a multi lane road for as long as I see fit.

KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING

Its the law, albeit a little enforced one. Regardless of the speed your travelling, you should never sit in the right lane.

Sitting in the right lane at the speed limit is one thing, but to do it when there is someone behind you obviously trying to get past... its the height of stupidity.

[charles_wif_xf]

Originally Posted by tranquilized

KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING

Its the law, albeit a little enforced one. Regardless of the speed your travelling, you should never sit in the right lane.

Sitting in the right lane at the speed limit is one thing, but to do it when there is someone behind you obviously trying to get past... its the height of stupidity.

Yeah I know, I'm just doing my bit to keep everyone at the speed limit :P

[jcxr]

The points loss for driving a high powered car must have only just come in recently, my young fella got done in my XR8 ute 6 months ago, no loss of points, only a fine approx $250'ish. This was in Vic.

[Arkturus]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Yeah I know, I'm just doing my bit to keep everyone at the speed limit :P

lol good point, but it's worth remembering that most speedos read a few k's out, so if your sitting on 100, the car behind you trying to pass might read 96...

[charles_wif_xf]

Originally Posted by Arkturus

lol good point, but it's worth remembering that most speedos read a few k's out, so if your sitting on 100, the car behind you trying to pass might read 96...

Thats a very good point Arkturus.

All my jokes aside, there is a reason I sit in the right land doing the speed limit or slightly above (the FG speedo is on the money, 100 indicated, actual 99.5km/h as indicated by multiple GPS devices).

Many years ago, I was in the right lane of the freeway and I noticed someone approaching me at a rather rapid pace. Using the "keep left unless overtaking" mantra, I moved into the left lane and the vehicle sped past me, at a speed much higher than 110km/h. At this point, the freeway banked left and after a few minutes, I notice the traffic slowing down to a standstill. As the vehicle buildup slowly inched forward, I saw why it had slowed down. The speeder had plowed into a people mover which had broken down on the right hand shoulder. I pulled over ahead of the crash scene and got out. Thank goodness there was no one in the Tarago. The Commodore driver however, wasn't so lucky. By this stage, I could hear the emergency services coming from the opposite direction. The ambo's came on the scene first, checked the Tarago, then went to the Commodore. They somehow extricated him from the wreckage but weren't able to revive him.

Moral of the story, had I stayed in the right lane, he'd still be alive (despite him being a total tool for inappropriate speeding). And since then, I always sit at the speed limit or a bit above in the right lane.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Nah, I'm with Adrenaline, if I'm doing the speed limit (most of the time, I'm a few over on the cruise control), then I'm sitting in the right lane on a multi lane road for as long as I see fit.

Hopefully only when the speed limit is 80 or less unless otherwise signposted...?

[dave289]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Nah, I'm with Adrenaline, if I'm doing the speed limit (most of the time, I'm a few over on the cruise control), then I'm sitting in the right lane on a multi lane road for as long as I see fit.

tools who do this should be barred from the road for at least 5 five years :thebirds:

[GT450]

If we did that we would have relatively quiet roads. i see right lane hogs every day of every week i even followed a l plater for over 15kms in the right lane of a freeway about 10kms under the posted limit on at least three different occasions. I had to eventually use the left lane to pass as did many others. Now what do you think this young man is going to think is normal when he gets his licence ?????
If only the police would enforce the keep left unless overtaking we may all have better manners
GT450

[OLDFORDNUT]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

Nah, I'm with Adrenaline, if I'm doing the speed limit (most of the time, I'm a few over on the cruise control), then I'm sitting in the right lane on a multi lane road for as long as I see fit.

Your one of the reasons road rage exists then with that attitude,you fool

[Ego T]

Originally Posted by OLDFORDNUT

Your one of the reasons road rage exists then with that attitude,you fool

Couldn't agree more...

[MAD]

If someone's going faster move left and let them pass. I dont care if I'm doing 15 over I'm in the left right until I need to move to overtake.
I move to the left as often as possible. Hopefully someone will pick up that I am moving left cause it's what I'm supposed to do, and hopefully they will pass it on to someone, and so on.