Bit of a laugh. Local Vs Import

[lownloud]

A mate sent me this the other day. I chuckled, thought I'd pass it on.

Ok, I'm sick of it. I have an old school Aussie Muscle car in the shed and drive a mildly tweaked Aussie V8 as a family car. So I have heard all the dribble hacking on the new Ford's and Old Fords and the Holden boys cop it too. Well here a list of answers to the smart *** questions and BS statements we get from the “others”. You know those guys that drive Jap imports and Euro psuedo snob cars etc..... Add to it if you feel the need!

Dumb statement number 1:
“My WRX is quicker than a GTHO..... They are no where man”
Reply: “Well you peanut, last time I looked a GTHO was near enough on 40 years old. If your WRX didn't smoke it then I would seriously doubt the intellegence of man and his ability to progress and improve on technology over that time. It SHOULD be a better car dynamically and in just about every aspect.”

Dumb statement number 2:
“ A HSV/GT/F6 isn't as good as a BMW M3 or an Audi S6 (or whatever)....
Reply:
“OK I get it..... We are comparing a $80,000 car with a $180,000 car. I ask you this, would you compare a one bedroom sitter in Bankstown with a 3 bedroom house on the North Shore and expect it to stack up? Or lets put it into something simpler....Ummm, OK let's say a Nokia 6500 with an Apple iPhone. 'nuff said really.

Dumb statement number 3:
“Aussie cars are ****. My car can do everything they can do but better”
Reply:
Well OK mate, Next time I'm going away for the weekend with the family we'll use your car. Here's what I need to take away with me. Me, The missus, two kids, grandma, Four suitcases, two eskies, two bikes, two boogey boards, a toolkit, the dog, four sleeping bags and pilows, 3 backpacks and we'll be towing the tinnie boat.....over the mountains, yep that's right.”
What's that? The Hyundai wouldn't cope? Why not?

Dumb statement number 4:
“My Landcruiser can do all that” (ref statement number 3)
Reply:
Oh I'm sorry, but I wanted something that is vaguely entertaining to drive. Yep the list of features is impressive but I'm pretty sure I'd rather my “falcadore FPGTS” on a nice twisty road than your topple truck.
Like most people who drive 4wd's, Off road doesn't interest me.
*Nb: Real 4wd driver are OK.

Dumb statement number 5:
“Imports (grey) are way better for the money”
Reply:
Sweet. Next time I feel like waiting 3 months for parts and dealing with someone with only a vague grip on the english language I'll buy a 12 year old performance car with a list of performance parts I have no idea about, can't replace or repair......


Oh and if you are reading this and think it's your god given right to stay in the right hand lane when there is 12 cars backed up behind you and you are doing 12km an hour under the speed limit blocking the flow of traffic, remember everyone behind you thinks you are a self centered moron!
Consider the possibility of someone behind you may be wanting to get a loved one to hospital quickly. It may be you one day.

[Mr Hardware]

And this is why they are in the minority.
I've just spent the whole weekend in a two-door Merc CLK, and let me tell you, they look 10 times more impressive than they actually drive.

[irlewy86]

Dumb Statement: My R33 needs a 5'' Cannon exhaust so when I tune it for 600hp the zorst can handle it.

Reply When is your heap of *poo* ever going to have 600hp, you still haven't buffed the rubmarks out from when scrapped your boyfriends supra at McDonalds 18 months ago. So you have an exhaust sytem that makes as much noise as a 2.5l engine possibly can and half the horsepower. Theres a reason you work at the parts counter of Supercheap.

[EF Hoon]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

Dumb Statement: My R33 needs a 5'' Cannon exhaust so when I tune it for 600hp the zorst can handle it.

Reply When is your heap of *poo* ever going to have 600hp, you still haven't buffed the rubmarks out from when scrapped your boyfriends supra at McDonalds 18 months ago. So you have an exhaust sytem that makes as much noise as a 2.5l engine possibly can and half the horsepower. Theres a reason you work at the parts counter of Supercheap.

Your not funny at all. Fail.

[irlewy86]

Originally Posted by EF Hoon

Your not funny at all. Fail.

Let me guess, an R33 owner and a Supercheap employee.

[EF Hoon]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

Let me guess, an R33 owner and a Supercheap employee.

haha close just a R33 owner

[JimNiki]

If a rice car genuinely had guts and handled well, would the owner really need to put a milo tin and blow off valve and 4 foot spoiler on?...

I don't feel good about the statement above, it's like making fun of the mentally dissoluded... give 'em a break please... they're trying their best!

[Wretched]

eh, works both ways and i have seen it.
You get some of the owners of local cars that have been modded to the high heavens bragging to owners of 911 turbos, GTRs, M3s, etc that they can take them on in a 1/4 mile race.
Then you get others who with their grey imports, again modded trying to take on stock 911s, GTRs, M3s, etc.

[JAMIES88]

The only reason the Bmws & Mercs are so dear here is due to taxes, in the states a new C63 is $75,000 usd. M3's are $85,000. Here they are double that...

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by JAMIES88

The only reason the Bmws & Mercs are so dear here is due to taxes, in the states a new C63 is $75,000 usd. M3's are $85,000. Here they are double that...

Not just taxes, exchange rate, dealer costs and the cost of shipping the cars here. We're not a large market for these cars so the costs of getting them on the market here bump the prices up a bit more.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Not just taxes, exchange rate, dealer costs and the cost of shipping the cars here. We're not a large market for these cars so the costs of getting them on the market here bump the prices up a bit more.

Yeh, the pommy BMW M3 is basically the same as the Australian one (UK cost $96,295AUD RRP including all their taxes) so if you add about $5k for freight and another $5k for dealer expenses you get $105k +/- which is exactly what they sell for here.........isn't it?????

[JAMIES88]

Originally Posted by flappist

Yeh, the pommy BMW M3 is basically the same as the Australian one (UK cost $96,295AUD RRP including all their taxes) so if you add about $5k for freight and another $5k for dealer expenses you get $105k +/- which is exactly what they sell for here.........isn't it?????

Not even close, they retail for $199,000 registered on the road here.

[Boosh Brus]

Originally Posted by JAMIES88

Not even close, they retail for $199,000 registered on the road here.

Thats a tad more then the US$55000 MSRP in the states.

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by JAMIES88

Not even close, they retail for $199,000 registered on the road here.

And of that $199,000, $42,563.10 is Luxury Car tax. Take out the tax and the car would be ~$157,000.

[gcg2503]

Originally Posted by JAMIES88

Not even close, they retail for $199,000 registered on the road here.

He was being sarcastic mate!

[The Snout]

You've reached the bottom of the barrel when taking Grandma on holidays is a gloating point.

[FGX-351]

Originally Posted by The Snout

You've reached the bottom of the barrel when taking Grandma on holidays is a gloating point.

Hahaha sig worthy.

[XR_Strider_GuY]

Im sure there are the "lack of intellegence" breed from both the import and local camps. For me I think drive whatever floats your boat and its great to see different cars driven by genuine enthusiasts who are passionate in what they drive but also appreciate each others cars.

Oh I have an American Import and a local car.

[mytgxl]

Very witty! everybody knows he with the most money wins! No matter what he drives!

[388cube_edxr8]

I am having a little trouble comprehending why everything is deemed to be better just because some part of it is "European".

The same product could be built to the same or better standards elsewhere (and often is) but the European one is better somehow.

Cars especially. I was talking to the mother in law about her Saab, and she wanted update to a newish Volvo. I listed a number of cars built and available locally that offered the same or better level of gizmos, safety and build quality at a lower price. Not to mention the price and availability of spare parts and servicing. Her response: "But the Volvo is European".

Maybe it's just the **** factor of the badge, but surely it can't be worth a premium of thousands of dollars over what the car should be worth.

My sister in law wants a Peugeot for no other reason than that it's European. She doesn't even care what model it is, despite my logical arguments, as long as it's a Peugeot. What's with that?

[T3ts50]

Originally Posted by 388cube_edxr8

I am having a little trouble comprehending why everything is deemed to be better just because some part of it is "European".

The same product could be built to the same or better standards elsewhere (and often is) but the European one is better somehow.

Cars especially. I was talking to the mother in law about her Saab, and she wanted update to a newish Volvo. I listed a number of cars built and available locally that offered the same or better level of gizmos, safety and build quality at a lower price. Not to mention the price and availability of spare parts and servicing. Her response: "But the Volvo is European".

Maybe it's just the **** factor of the badge, but surely it can't be worth a premium of thousands of dollars over what the car should be worth.

My sister in law wants a Peugeot for no other reason than that it's European. She doesn't even care what model it is, despite my logical arguments, as long as it's a Peugeot. What's with that?

Agree with everything you have said. How many times have you heard people say "But you could be something European for that price" when referring to a GT or a Clubbie.

[Boosh Brus]

Originally Posted by T3ts50

Agree with everything you have said. How many times have you heard people say "But you could be something European for that price" when referring to a GT or a Clubbie.

Come to think of it never. At the end of the day not everyone wants a Holden or Ford.

[Iggypoppin']

A lot of the time, people stereotype car owners, often to validate their own car choice.
I'm all for a bit of banter, and the OP's got a point, the comments he posted are pretty funny, but it also goes to show the ignorance of many import/local car owners.
I would like to think that I am pretty impartial, I have great respect for Japanese imports, particularly the mighty GTR, 2JZ, SR20, et al. Its the same with ford v Holden, I respect Holden for their present V8, VLturbo(more of a Nissan but still, kudos) and so on.
I can at least say I'm not one-eyed. But ill always love my fords, they recieve a preference, but a preference only and if a better car is available for the money, it will recieve preference.

[RedHotGT]

FPV FG GT (2010) http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/bncis/details.aspx?seot=1&R=8276076&silo=-1&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price_Dec imal%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model _String%7c0&Cr=&trecs=21&__N=1216%201246%204294965 879%204294967229
$59,990...

HSV Clubby GXP (2010)
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/demo/details.aspx?seot=1&R=8738047&silo=-1&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price_Dec imal%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model _String%7c0&Cr=&trecs=19&__N=1216%201247%201252%20 1282%204294965530%204294964634%204294742329
$53,990...

I'd like to know where I can get something of similar spec - that is 'Euro' for the same price...
(ie: 2010 model... 300kw... sedan... relatively exclusive...)

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by loftie

FPV FG GT (2010) http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/bncis/details.aspx?seot=1&R=8276076&silo=-1&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price_Dec imal%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model _String%7c0&Cr=&trecs=21&__N=1216%201246%204294965 879%204294967229
$59,990...

HSV Clubby GXP (2010)
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/demo/details.aspx?seot=1&R=8738047&silo=-1&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price_Dec imal%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model _String%7c0&Cr=&trecs=19&__N=1216%201247%201252%20 1282%204294965530%204294964634%204294742329
$53,990...

I'd like to know where I can get something of similar spec - that is 'Euro' for the same price...
(ie: 2010 model... 300kw... sedan... relatively exclusive...)

i think a big problem with car buyers in Australia is the focus on power output. the rest of the car is usually overlooked by consumers, just look at the f6, it has a beautiful engine/trans combo with seats more at home in a taxi, suspension that feels floaty and tyres that cant handle half the power supplied.

until Ford and Holden design a car that can keep up with the engines they install these euro comparisons will be pointless. you really do get what you pay for

[RedHotGT]

Originally Posted by BOSHOG

i think a big problem with car buyers in Australia is the focus on power output. the rest of the car is usually overlooked by consumers, just look at the f6, it has a beautiful engine/trans combo with seats more at home in a taxi, suspension that feels floaty and tyres that cant handle half the power supplied.

until Ford and Holden design a car that can keep up with the engines they install these euro comparisons will be pointless. you really do get what you pay for

We are talking about sports cars here.... and power does have something to do with the selection process...

Its not everything... but its something.,.,,

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by loftie

We are talking about sports cars here.... and power does have something to do with the selection process...

Its not everything... but its something.,.,,

are you comparing a GT to a sportscar?

sportscars are light and nimble, handle well and generally have 2 doors. a GT is a Grand Tourer. a 4 door saloon cant be compared to a sportscar

[flappist]

Originally Posted by loftie

We are talking about sports cars here....

[prydey]

some of you guys need to open both eyes on the odd occasion. sure there are import owners out there who give the brands a bad name, but the same can be said for local cars and their owners.

how many falcon 6cyl's are getting around with GT style bodykits. what about all the commo's with hsv style kits. i'm sure that is impressive to everybody too. plenty of 6cyl fords running around with exhausts that are way too big for the power being produced. ditto for commo's.

as mentioned, many people critisize others to justify something of their own. by putting someone else down, they somehow feel they have raised themself up.

as for engines, the rb25/26 is right up there with the best 6cyl's ever made, esp straight 6's.

[pottery beige]

imports are great if you use poofy hair stuff.. and listen to girly music.....