Apparently Australians are too skinny

[SM1DY]

More than 18 months after its release in the States, KFC double down has made the trip down under

Original thread -
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11270710

Article -
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-...e-double-down/

Only available for 4 weeks and 6 weeks in Tassie so get in quick.

But on a more serious level, this does bring to light the issue of corporate responsibility when it comes to the domestic issues Australia faces in regards to not only childhood obesity, be obesity in general. Is the solution education or just to ban amazingly unhealthy, salivation inducing food?

[chrisfpv]

I'm so bloody hungry now!!!!

[SSD-85]

Phwoar! I havent seen those around here yet. I cant wait to try one

[Peuty]

Don't see how it's worse than anything else on their menu. No carbs for a start and it's the same amount of chicken as a two piece feed?

Still, I won't eat it...KFC is no good anyway.

[AUIIPURSUIT]

might get one tonight... got a VIP before public thing off my bro to try one today (available tomorrow in vic)...

see how the night pans out.

[Adamz Ghia]

Things like this shouldn't be banned. It's easy really. If you believe they are unhealthy and don't like them, don't eat it. I myself work out every day, so I can get away with eating it every now and then. Why should I miss out because of the ones who can't say no, weak parents, the lazy and the do gooders...?

Damn it I'm going to get one now...

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by SM1DY

But on a more serious level, this does bring to light the issue of corporate responsibility when it comes to the domestic issues Australia faces in regards to not only childhood obesity, be obesity in general. Is the solution education or just to ban amazingly unhealthy, salivation inducing food?

The nutrition information is easily obtainable - it comes down to personal choice. I wouldn't want to be deprived of something I would eat very occasionally because someone else can't moderate their calorie intake.

It comes down to the parents teaching their children how to make healthy choices. Nothing wrong with eating something decadent in moderation provided it's not always at the expense of healthy and balanced meals. I just downed a Maxibon but that was after a dish of soba noodles, tofu, assorted vegetables and lean pork in a sauce made from soybean paste - which was very yummy.

[My32Doors]

People have become too lazy to prepare good food nowadays. And don't tell me that there's no time to prepare it! Takes just as much time to get in the car, drive to one of these establishments, order the food and wait to receive it as it does to prepare it yourself.

[Racecraft]

Originally Posted by SM1DY

But on a more serious level, this does bring to light the issue of corporate responsibility when it comes to the domestic issues Australia faces in regards to not only childhood obesity, be obesity in general. Is the solution education or just to ban amazingly unhealthy, salivation inducing food?

It is duty of care of a parent to not feed your kids crap.............

great on a billboard does nothing to satisfy my tastebuds......

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by Racecraft

It is duty of care of a parent to not feed your kids crap.............

great on a billboard does nothing to satisfy my tastebuds......

If you don't want to feed them crap then don't feed them gluten, the most unhealthiest ingredient on the shelves, however I bet that's in almost every meal of theirs. Look into the science of food for yourself rather, our "food pyramid" was made by the same people who have profit to gain by recommending said diet. Gluten is like the cheapest thing to manufacture, that's why it's in every food and rammed down our throats. Bet none of you knew it has morphine in it.

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

If you don't want to feed them crap then don't feed them gluten, the most unhealthiest ingredient on the shelves, however I bet that's in almost every meal of theirs. Look into the science of food for yourself rather, our "food pyramid" was made by the same people who have profit to gain by recommending said diet. Gluten is like the cheapest thing to manufacture, that's why it's in every food and rammed down our throats. Bet none of you knew it has morphine in it.

Gluten, as found naturally in wheat flour?

[BigCav]

they had the basic nutritional info in the herald sun today, was far better for you then a hungry jacks ultimate wopper and about on par with a bigmac from memory

now i havent seen the full nutritional info but it seems more like a case of people jumping the gun

[Streets]

Originally Posted by BigCav

far better for you then a hungry jacks ultimate wopper and about on par with a bigmac from memory

I volunteer my time to try all three and report back

[ST]

Originally Posted by SM1DY

But on a more serious level, this does bring to light the issue of corporate responsibility when it comes to the domestic issues Australia faces in regards to not only childhood obesity, be obesity in general. Is the solution education or just to ban amazingly unhealthy, salivation inducing food?

You think a single person would not be at least slightly aware of what they are ingesting when they purchase this? When you hold corporations responsible (even in part) for obesity then you deem yourself (or others) irresponsible and uncontrollably impulsive. Corporations are scapegoats for those who refuse to accept the reality that they are solely to blame for their gluttonous over-indulging behaviour.

What makes it worse is the Government listens to these ignorant few and punishes the rest by slowly diminishing our freedom of choice. The food industry is just one example of many (being a forum of car enthusiasts we already know plenty more).

Oh and on the burger; I'll give it a go.

[SM1DY]

Originally Posted by ST

You think a single person would not be at least slightly aware of what they are ingesting when they purchase this? When you hold corporations responsible (even in part) for obesity then you deem yourself (or others) irresponsible and uncontrollably impulsive. Corporations are scapegoats for those who refuse to accept the reality that they are solely to blame for their gluttonous over-indulging behaviour.

What makes it worse is the Government listens to these ignorant few and punishes the rest by slowly diminishing our freedom of choice. The food industry is just one example of many (being a forum of car enthusiasts we already know plenty more).

Oh and on the burger; I'll give it a go.

Let's put the issue of personal responsibility aside for the moment and just consider whether KFC should even put something of this nature on the market. By this I mean, though most people can moderate what that eat, should something with the stats that this thing has be consumed by anybody at all?

On a side note, just had one.... delicious. But nothing will prepare you for the guilt you feel afterwards. Very heavy and very expensive.

[ST]

Originally Posted by SM1DY

Let's put the issue of personal responsibility aside for the moment and just consider whether KFC should even put something of this nature on the market. By this I mean, though most people can moderate what that eat, should something with the stats that this thing has be consumed by anybody at all?

On a side note, just had one.... delicious. But nothing will prepare you for the guilt you feel afterwards. Very heavy and very expensive.

You can't put personal responsibility aside at all, that is the point. If you try this burger once or twice it will have almost no (very minute at most) detrimental effects on your health.

Anyway glad to hear it is tasty, hopefully I get to try one before it is pulled from the market.

[zdcol71]

Originally Posted by ST

You think a single person would not be at least slightly aware of what they are ingesting when they purchase this? When you hold corporations responsible (even in part) for obesity then you deem yourself (or others) irresponsible and uncontrollably impulsive. Corporations are scapegoats for those who refuse to accept the reality that they are solely to blame for their gluttonous over-indulging behaviour.

What makes it worse is the Government listens to these ignorant few and punishes the rest by slowly diminishing our freedom of choice. The food industry is just one example of many (being a forum of car enthusiasts we already know plenty more).

Oh and on the burger; I'll give it a go.

I'm sipping on a (corporate brewed) beer at the moment ,so I won't be too earnest, but lets not forget why corporations are just that.... they prey on the foibles and weaknesses of many people.Tell someone what a Maccas feedlot in the Brazilian jungle is, and they will wonder how so many poor but seemingly autonomous people could be taken for such a ride by a corporation.
Corporations survive, and thrive, on the basis that most people actually do have (figuratively speaking) gluttonous, over-indulging behaviours in one shape or another. I am always a little dismayed when individuals defend corporations... they all have huge machines to do this for them!! (for the record, I don't "do" the usual suspects,(Maccas, KFC et al) but I'm not immune by being taken by other global "manipulators" once in a while.

[ST]

Originally Posted by zdcol71

I'm sipping on a (corporate brewed) beer at the moment ,so I won't be too earnest, but lets not forget why corporations are just that.... they prey on the foibles and weaknesses of many people.Tell someone what a Maccas feedlot in the Brazilian jungle is, and they will wonder how so many poor but seemingly autonomous people could be taken for such a ride by a corporation.
Corporations survive, and thrive, on the basis that most people actually do have (figuratively speaking) gluttonous, over-indulging behaviours in one shape or another. I am always a little dismayed when individuals defend corporations... they all have huge machines to do this for them!! (for the record, I don't "do" the usual suspects,(Maccas, KFC et al) but I'm not immune by being taken by other global "manipulators" once in a while.

They prey on the ignorant and mindless you mean? If you think I am defending corporations you have completely misinterpreted my post and main contention - I am defending you.

[zdcol71]

Originally Posted by ST

They prey on the ignorant and mindless you mean? If you think I am defending corporations you have completely misinterpreted my post and main contention - I am defending you.

No, I don't mean "They prey on the ignorant and mindless",....I mean what I said, "they prey on the foibles and weaknesses of many"....big difference,.... difference that defenders of corporations cannot readily discern, (including those formulating policy, who get a big boost from corporate backing)
I rememember a story from quite a few years back where BAE(or possibly the French equivalent) had a plan to use developing technology to project advertising onto clouds, and the advertiser was Maccas.. golden arches all over Grandpa Bunny Bunnys' sunset. The same corporation is on record as saying when the first extra terrestrial restaraunt is established it will be "us".

Some corporations have a legislated mandate to improve their product (see sulphur/benzene reduced fuels, ADR compliance in new cars, ANCAP ratings, to name a couple in the automotive industry) , but most see the way forward in generating profit comes from convincing people that they need a given product...and if the machine is big enough, they will in fact convince people that they have a genuine desire to be sold something.

(ps ....I'm old enough and silly enough not to need defending by anyone on a motoring forum).

[ST]

Originally Posted by zdcol71

No, I don't mean "They prey on the ignorant and mindless",....I mean what I said, "they prey on the foibles and weaknesses of many"....big difference,.... difference that defenders of corporations cannot readily discern, (including those formulating policy, who get a big boost from corporate backing)
I rememember a story from quite a few years back where BAE(or possibly the French equivalent) had a plan to use developing technology to project advertising onto clouds, and the advertiser was Maccas.. golden arches all over Grandpa Bunny Bunnys' sunset. The same corporation is on record as saying when the first extra terrestrial restaraunt is established it will be "us".

Some corporations have a legislated mandate to improve their product (see sulphur/benzene reduced fuels, ADR compliance in new cars, ANCAP ratings, to name a couple in the automotive industry) , but most see the way forward in generating profit comes from convincing people that they need a given product...and if the machine is big enough, they will in fact convince people that they have a genuine desire to be sold something.

(ps ....I'm old enough and silly enough not to need defending by anyone on a motoring forum).

"They prey on the ignorant and mindless you mean?" was very much tongue in cheek bait. That last sentence in brackets tells me once again you still haven't understood my most basic fundamental point.

[SB076]

Originally Posted by ST

...... - I am defending you.

That to me is the point. If the powers to be ban this type of food, where does it stop? I remember growing with fireworks and lots of other fun things, but a lot of them are banned. Councils are already trying to ban all sorts of things from kids playing with kites to kids running in parks, its getting a bit over the top.

[ST]

^Exactly, that is spot on. Something like this can snowball very easily and in the end we suffer for it, not the corporations.

[Streets]

How expensive we talking here?

[SM1DY]

Originally Posted by Streets

How expensive we talking here?

$8.20 and like $3 more for a meal

[|||]

man that thing looks good. im gunna eat 2 with a longneck of VB and then follow it all with a peter jackson virginia for dessert. now thats a happy meal.

[Ben73]

Ill try it.

fat foods should not be banned. If someone is fat from eating crap food, then that's their fault, not the food.

They could always just eat healthy and work out. But they are to lazy to work out and have no self control to eat proper things. No ones fault but their own.

I know people will bring out the line "some people can't help being overweight" Yeah I know that. I am not talking about them Im talking about the people who are like
"I know I am putting on weight, but I like this food and I can't be bothered to work out either I have no time"
If you cared so much about this situation you would do something about it instead of just complaining.

So yeah let me eat what I like, I can control myself.

/RANT

[AUIIPURSUIT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiqkSXBx-_o

enough said... (caution, mature audiences only)

[svo supporter]

Everyone has the right to eat what ever they like. If their too fat and lazy to work it off, stiff bikkies to the wowsers.

Now anyone that has a few kilos they want to get rid of, I'm more than willing to take them. For the life of me, stuffed if I can put on weight, even after eating maccas, KFC or Hungry jacks and all that lovely fattening food

[Resurrection]

Nothing beats the Zinger Tower Burger!

[Kryton]

Once again, ****poor journalism (sensationalism).

Lets not get too carried away with 'gut busting' B.S and words like 'unhealthy', 'saturated in fat' etc etc.

If anyone read the Herald Sun, you too would have seen this:
This burger has the same amount kilojoules as:
2 packets of plain Smiths chips
1.8 mars bars
1.5 packets of Nobbys salted peanuts
0.45 packets of Tim Tams.

Now, burger comparison:

Hungry Jacks Ultimate Double Whopper:
Kj: 5085
Total Fat: 80.5g
Saturated fat: 32.1g

Big Mac:
Kj: 2060
Total fat: 26.9g
Saturated fat: 10.6

KFC Double Down Burger:
Kj: 1939
Total fat: 22.3g
Saturated fat: 12.3g

So as you can see for yourself, its healthier than a plain old Big Mac
Worth the media hype and sensationism that it is receiving - i hardly think so.
Good free publicity though.