China about to land probe on Moon.

[Madaya]

Check link...
http://english.cntv.cn/live/p2p/index.shtml

Good luck.

[gtfpv]

wow , thanks madaya . love it . is it live

[Madaya]

They are down. All looks well. Soon to let the Rover Yutu to roll down the ramps for it's first look around. Landed in the Bay of Rainbows (Sinus Iridium).

[gtfpv]

ok this is incredible and extremely informative . they have just said that the temp extremes are radical on the moon and a real challange for the vehicle on the moon , AS !!! GET THIS , " DAYTIME TEMP 150C AND NIGHTTIME TEMP -180C .

CANnot help but wonder how the astranauts drove around on the mmon in an electric car in this extreme weather 40 years ago ?

further info , they said tthat time is 14 times longer than earths time

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

ok this is incredible and extremely informative . they have just said that the temp extremes are radical on the moon and a real challange for the vehicle on the moon , AS !!! GET THIS , " DAYTIME TEMP 150C AND NIGHTTIME TEMP -180C .

CANnot help but wonder how the astranauts drove around on the mmon in an electric car in this extreme weather 40 years ago ?

further info , they said tthat time is 14 times longer than earths time

Try some reading.

http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/200...iation-claims/

NASA knew that the moon’s surface went through these temperature swings. But, that doesn’t mean that as soon as a square meter of lunar surface rotates into the Sun’s light that it suddenly, immediately goes from -200 °F to +200 °F. It takes time to absorb the radiation and heat up! And that is why all of the lunar missions were planned for “dawn” on the moon, before the surface had heated up to the +200 °F temperatures, but after it had warmed a little from the -200 °F temperatures. So even while the lunar surface does experience wide temperature swings throughout it’s nearly 700-hr day, the astronauts did not experience those extremes

[UberKnee]

Very cool.

[csv8]

Amazing achievement ..China's tech is good..wait until it flows onto their cars

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by csv8

Amazing achievement ..China's tech is good..wait until it flows onto their cars

Wait until their technology is hurtling towards us!! China is set to be a very disruptive world influence. And it wont be for the benefit of us...

[gtfpv]

yep thanks xr6 martin . when they said it was a 14 earth day rotation i understood that concept and edited my post to add that in . it probably wouldnt be clear that i did this to the reader . but thanks for the explanation . it's really interesting stuff , i had no idea the moons temps were that extreme . im really looking forward to new manned moon missions in my lifetime . i'm so proud of the chinese for doing this , it's been really dissapointing watching nasa and russia passing all these things off as old hat , when a whole generations only get to read stories about thier experiences and watch 60's technoligy footage . in a sense only the astronauts got to see it as it is . the old grainy movies didnt show much reality to it . imagine it all on HD !!!
and Whats wrong with our media !! whilst all this was going on i channel surfed TV , and aside from a few news headlines there were old re runs of tv sitcoms .
that shouldve been live on several channels , and so should curiosity on mars . . obviously they dont want us to think outside of ONLINE SHOPPING SPECIALS , and info mercials

[UberKnee]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

yep thanks xr6 martin . when they said it was a 14 earth day rotation i understood that concept and edited my post to add that in . it probably wouldnt be clear that i did this to the reader . but thanks for the explanation . it's really interesting stuff , i had no idea the moons temps were that extreme . im really looking forward to new manned moon missions in my lifetime . i'm so proud of the chinese for doing this , it's been really dissapointing watching nasa and russia passing all these things off as old hat , when a whole generations only get to read stories about thier experiences and watch 60's technoligy footage . in a sense only the astronauts got to see it as it is . the old grainy movies didnt show much reality to it . imagine it all on HD !!!
and Whats wrong with our media !! whilst all this was going on i channel surfed TV , and aside from a few news headlines there were old re runs of tv sitcoms .
that shouldve been live on several channels , and so should curiosity on mars . . obviously they dont want us to think outside of ONLINE SHOPPING SPECIALS , and info mercials

I agree with this, the mere fact that we can put probes, satelittes, and men into outer space is amazing but its ignored for whatever drug fueled thing Miley Cyrus is doing. Its beyond incredible the things we have accomplished in space, and the depths of space we have explored.

[comagutsa]

oh no what about the aliens with their moon bases, thats why the US stopped going to moon and havent been back since, their going to kill us all nowwhere going to get all that helium 3 now

been watching to many of the UFO shows on history and discovery channel

[csv8]

Aliens are on the dark side of the moon...so we don't see them !!

[comagutsa]

[gtfpv]

i'm going to check the link now as today the rover gets off loaded from the lander .

[MrXR8]

Aliens on the moon............ We had to go there didn't we?

[gtfpv]

trolls everywhere on this forum , can we just keep an interest in this thread and keep the usual troll insults away . i say this is a great thread . i hope only those interested view it . really dont want to see put downs and garbage on this one . its too great a topic and interesting science for us all .

[MrXR8]

I would have thought just bringing up aliens on the moon was an insult to all the fine men who risked their lives getting and landing on the moon.

Keep to topic was basically what I meant by my comment. Have respect for the people who risked their lives with risks that nor you or I know about.

[Franco Cozzo]

China announced that they will share their findings with everyone, which I think is great.

Something humankind can benefit from.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

China announced that they will share their findings with everyone, which I think is great.

Something humankind can benefit from.

Which Nasa did also.
They lent moon rocks to just about every major University in the World

[MrXR8]

There is so much more to learn about the moon. I can't see how nasa doesn't want to go back there.

[mik]

Originally Posted by MrXR8

There is so much more to learn about the moon. I can't see how nasa doesn't want to go back there.

I suspect its not they don't want to go back, more a case of can't afford to, but don't be surprised if china starts reaping benefits from finding something worthwhile up there ............ nasa might suddenly find some cash to crank up the missions again, maybe the ruskys too.

[MrXR8]

We could test mars landing missions there. Obviously different circumstances but they could none the less.

[poppa smurf]

I wonder if China will go the next step to set up a base on the moon and claim its apparent riches?

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by poppa smurf

I wonder if China will go the next step to set up a base on the moon and claim its apparent riches?

very interesting point . one would say if they can then why not .
i vaguely remember some treaty being agreed to that no humans would be able to claim any rights on the moon though . cant remember where i read that .
and also , wasnt some dude / company selling blocks of land on the moon , b you can buy them and claim nothing or cannot change it in anyway . ?

[poppa smurf]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

very interesting point . one would say if they can then why not .
i vaguely remember some treaty being agreed to that no humans would be able to claim any rights on the moon though . cant remember where i read that .
and also , wasnt some dude / company selling blocks of land on the moon , b you can buy them and claim nothing or cannot change it in anyway . ?

yes there was some person/company selling plots of land but I think, China being China, would not recognise those documents, occupancy has always ruled.

if a base was to be setup I think it would be free rein, god knows what is up there as far as mining goes, then of course there is the low gravity in which to launch to other planets, galaxies, cosmos's.

China would probably be the best to engage all happenstances as they came along.

interesting times ahead if the Chinese actually do become fully engaged.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

i vaguely remember some treaty being agreed to that no humans would be able to claim any rights on the moon though . cant remember where i read that .

I recall some treaty signed in the late 60's to that effect, I would say accelerated by the US and/or Russia making sure the other didn't claim the moon as their soil during their space race.

If you work out a way to mine the moon, what you bring back is all yours, though.

[Madaya]

Wikipedia has an article about the Outer Space Treaty...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

[mcflux]

"Hyosung, the Chery has landed"

[MrXR8]

I think due to there being no atmosphere setting up a moon base is a bit outa our league ATM. When the sun sneezes a solar flare the occupants would be hit with waves of radiation. But as a temp yeah I guess it's not a bad idea. They could see if they could survive for 6 months and develop techniques and systems for a Mars landing and stay. Once on mars it's about a years wait to get home.

[poppa smurf]

Originally Posted by MrXR8

I think due to there being no atmosphere setting up a moon base is a bit outa our league ATM. When the sun sneezes a solar flare the occupants would be hit with waves of radiation. But as a temp yeah I guess it's not a bad idea. They could see if they could survive for 6 months and develop techniques and systems for a Mars landing and stay. Once on mars it's about a years wait to get home.

no atmosphere in space either but we have a station up there, I have a sneaking suspicion that China will be very interested in the moon as new territory.

I remember glued to the carpet, sitting and watching absolutely enthralled by the first moon landing and first steps on one of the few TV's in the small town where I spent my younger years with around 10 of my class mates.

the kids then had imagination, if it doesn't involve a hand piece these days the kids aren't interested.