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Old 08-05-2017, 08:18 PM   #1
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Seems like they messed up the nbn now there charging us for the privilege useless bunch of no hopers

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/govt-...and-tax-460847

The government is pushing to introduce a $7.10 minimum monthly broadband tax for fixed-line NBN users to pay for the future cost of the fixed wireless and satellite portions of the NBN.
It plans to both introduce and pass the regional broadband scheme (RBS) charge bill, alongside a package of telecommunications changes, in parliament's winter sitting, which wraps up on June 22.
The Communications department began consulting on the tax in December last year, and took industry submissions until February 3.
However, the result of the consultation has not been released, and at the time of publication was still listed as being “under review” despite the government’s intention to pass the tax law by mid-year.
Users of “superfast” fixed-line services will pay the tax, which starts at $7.10 a month. The tax will be charged to retail service providers, who the government has admitted will pass on the cost to customers.
About 95 percent of those taxed will be NBN fixed-line customers, while the remainder will come from operators such as TPG, which has been deploying fibre-to-the-basement services in metro areas.
Lawmakers have acknowledged the charge will make broadband prices more expensive.
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Old 10-05-2017, 02:06 PM   #2
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Bloody hell, govco couldn't run a chook raffle.
Regardless of who's in charge, thanks for the link mate.
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Old 10-05-2017, 04:10 PM   #3
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So now we'll have to pay more for something that doesnt come close to living up to the hype? No thanks, I'll opt out if and when its ever running in my neighbourhood. Gigabit wireless isnt that far away....
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Old 10-05-2017, 05:37 PM   #4
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Gigabit wireless isnt that far away....
How about 255Tbps Fibre? This was 2 years ago!

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...c-single-fiber

Pity the majority of the country will be stuck with crap copper.
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iiNet Cable all the way. 375mbps on a good day, 160mbps on a bad day.
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Old 10-05-2017, 04:24 PM   #6
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Nice.
Thank you Government for my slower than slow NBN.
In Newcastle we were lumbered with the cost cutting hybrid fibre/copper network to the node.
Other Cities were lucky enough to get full fibre to their premises.
I now have NBN at home that is slower than my ADSL2 at work
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Old 10-05-2017, 04:38 PM   #7
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Im glad there are alternatives to the NBN starting to show up.
Get to avoid the whole mess that is the NBN.

Just signed up with Nuskope fixed wireless at work, no fuss to get it installed. Cheaper than similar speed/quota on on NBN (not that we will be able to get that for another 2 years+) full 30/5 speed and no congestion.
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Old 10-05-2017, 05:56 PM   #8
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Whilst fibre can deliver more information, it takes less time for a signal to travel down a copper wire. That's not to say fibre isn't better, however it has to be boosted every 2km. That means greater upkeep on the infrastructure. Optical fibre can't be tapped like copper either. I have a set of line taps for copper for work but once the glass is broken or the reflective foil is comprised, fibre won't work. It's much more secure.
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Whilst fibre can deliver more information, it takes less time for a signal to travel down a copper wire. That's not to say fibre isn't better, however it has to be boosted every 2km. That means greater upkeep on the infrastructure. Optical fibre can't be tapped like copper either. I have a set of line taps for copper for work but once the glass is broken or the reflective foil is comprised, fibre won't work. It's much more secure.
So, are there boosters every 2kms in the underwater cables spanning the oceans?
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So, are there boosters every 2kms in the underwater cables spanning the oceans?
http://www.infocellar.com/networks/f...mps-regens.htm
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Old 11-05-2017, 12:07 PM   #11
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Got to have an NBN before it can be taxed.

It will be a looong time before I have to pay any tax then.

Thank Abbott, he is the master of this disaster.
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Got to have an NBN before it can be taxed.

It will be a looong time before I have to pay any tax then.

Thank Abbott, he is the master of this disaster.
Mate you'll have to go back to Kevin 07 for the start of the whole NBN mess , it's ok to come up with an idea for a new service.
But if you're spending money like a drunken sailor ( ALP ) , and can't be accountable for your actions.
Then you shouldn't be allowed to govern our country, now the other clowns ( LIB/NATS ) have to come in an trying fix the mess the previous govco left behind.
And if it means a tax for the NBN so be it, we the people have to wake and stop voting in these clowns.
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I get the advancement for infrastructure with fibre, but the first fibre course I did in 08 they started with the health risk of fibre. This concerns me to a degree. Obviously don't look into one as there is a lazer shining down it, but when you terminate the connector you have to be anal about off cuts and shards of glass. Some shards can be so fine that if they peirce your skin (not even drawing blood) and enter the blood stream they can potentially make it up to the brain and cause death. The general public have a percentage of people who choose to do silly things so the potential for bad things to happen is there.
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Non-NBN fttp at home, and Metro-E fttp going into the office tomorrow. 1:1 contention ratio for me.

Kiss my **** NBN.

If you have fttn nbn and it's slow, live in hope that it will get a little better once the phone and ADSL signals are shut off the copper network and they can then crank nbn to full power.
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:55 AM   #15
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To this day they don't know the transmission limit of fibre. It is huge. That is why fttp was this centuries snowy hydro...infrastructure that would not need updating for generations and effectvily future proof. And the libs killed it. Even if it was more expensive and took longer it was the best idea as we wouldn't be where we are now with multiple network types that need ongoing maintenance. At lest the jobs will last longer.

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The government didn't have the balls to structurally separate Telstra at the time to a wholesale and retail arms. They would have the balls to do it now either.

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