Toyota investigating LandCruiser knocking noise

[DFB FGXR6]

You would think the 14 years between the 200 and 300 series, Toyota would have absolutely perfected the new Landcruiser. But but but, Toyota's are perfect!

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...knocking-noise

I spotted a 300 series the other day and was surprised how unremarkable the new model is to look at.

[Franco Cozzo]

I was thinking this thread was about the 79 series and I was going to say maybe go ask the engineers who designed it in 2000BC

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I was thinking this thread was about the 79 series and I was going to say maybe go ask the engineers who designed it in 2000BC

Those 70 Series Landcruisers are the biggest p##s take in the automotive scene. $70K for that ancient old warhorse is stupid, although not as stupid as those who stump up the cash for one.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Those 70 Series Landcruisers are the biggest p##s take in the automotive scene. $70K for that ancient old warhorse is stupid, although not as stupid as those who stump up the cash for one.

$70k retail.
Mugs are paying over $100k for one due to excessive waiting lists.

Can we expect to see a Hyundai funded Cadogan hit piece on Toyota/Land Cruiser before the weekend...

[fiestaz]

Originally Posted by smoo

$70k retail.
Mugs are paying over $100k for one due to excessive waiting lists.

Can we expect to see a Hyundai funded Cadogan hit piece on Toyota/Land Cruiser before the weekend...

Then the additional $50k + they spend to make them “better” and more modern. Ridiculous

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Those 70 Series Landcruisers are the biggest p##s take in the automotive scene. $70K for that ancient old warhorse is stupid, although not as stupid as those who stump up the cash for one.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...AG-AD-20411908

70th anniversary edition - $120K excluding charges,

They should investigate the knocking noise coming from 79 series purchasers heads

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...AG-AD-20411908

70th anniversary edition - $120K excluding charges,

They should investigate the knocking noise coming from 79 series purchasers heads

That is stupid money!!

I would rather spend $30,000 of a base spec Ranger/DMAX/HiLux and spend the rest on something like a Mustang. $120,000 for a vehicle to drive around a paddock or up a dirt road is ridiculous.

[Rob 351]

Yep they spend a 100 k on them, realise they are as slow as a wet week, tune them, throw an exhaust on them, upgrade the clutch because the standard one can’t handle it, spacers on the rear track etc etc. I hope I have that in the right order.
I always say you can easily pick a 79 cruiser without looking as the sound lasts forever because they are that slow.

[SSVPom]

Saw my first 300 Series today, just thought I’d mention that.

[jpd80]

It will be interesting to find out how Toyota cures that knock in the steering…….

[Bossxr8]

It amazes me that stuff like this doesn't show up in testing, nor after the cars are built and driven over a squeaks and rattles road when they come off the line.

[Falcon SXR8]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It amazes me that stuff like this doesn't show up in testing, nor after the cars are built and driven over a squeaks and rattles road when they come off the line.

Yep I always laugh when people get sucked into the marketing hype of how many kms manufacturers test there vehicles and in all these harsh environments then they always have these stupid issues as you drive them off the lot

[Hulsty]

I love my 70 series (from 1986), interior is nearly the same as my Dads 70 series from 2009.

I think it is ironic the new 300 series comes with a 202ci engine, the 4cyl in my 70 series is bigger (just, 3.4L vs 3.3).

[whynot]

Steering rack rattle?

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

You would think the 14 years between the 200 and 300 series, Toyota would have absolutely perfected the new Landcruiser. But but but, Toyota's are perfect!

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...knocking-noise

I spotted a 300 series the other day and was surprised how unremarkable the new model is to look at.

I seen a 200 and 300 parked side by side the other day.. They are so similar its not funny. Looks like the roof etc is carry over.



Seems like manufacturers are going to do less to cars between models then they used to. If it aint broke why fix it.

[naddis01]

Wow they've moved into the 90's with the cup holders.

[bb_zetec]

Originally Posted by naddis01

Wow they've moved into the 90's with the cup holders.

You forgot Power Windows and Infotainment that looks like its 10 years old already.

The A/C Control looks from 1985 though.

Toyota sure has paid back their R &D on this model many times over now.

But to their credit...these things dont die.

Overseas they still get the 1HZ Straight 6 Diesel model with wind up windows...now getting into one of those is like stepping into a time warp.

[CyberWasp]

You guys are being a bit harsh on Toyota.
Toyota is always quick to respond and deal with any quality issues.
For instance look at how quickly they dealt with the DPF issues on the Hilux.....

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

You guys are being a bit harsh on Toyota.
Toyota is always quick to respond and deal with any quality issues.
For instance look at how quickly they dealt with the DPF issues on the Hilux.....

Only now Toyota is recalling Hilux number plate brackets on all factory tray backs.
They are only held in by one bolt and the metal is real thin, only takes 12 months for them to crack and fall off.
This has been a problem since the current shape came out, which is five years...

Its not a big thing, because you can solve the issue with an extra two self drilling screws.
But the fact is its taken 5 years for them to acknowledge the problem.

[BA-XT]

Everyone hanging crap n Toyota. Yes they are overpriced. But have the market pretty much to themselves. Their 70 series is basic and I'm pretty sure the door handles, hard stick, door cards, air conditioning control vents would be he same design as my old 60 series.

Not everyone wants a tonne of electrical components in their car. Wind up windows = less electrics. They even have a rubber peace attached to the rear view mirror now to stop it rattling. Just evolution. It's been doing the job for decades ago why change when the demand for a basic hose out 4x4 is still there.

If the 70 series didn't exist, there would be no other option for a big basic 4x4 that's capable of the loads and abuse that they have been handling since, well, the 40 series really.

The ONLY option really is the Defender.... And that kicks off at $90k so.....

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by BA-XT

Everyone hanging crap n Toyota. Yes they are overpriced. But have the market pretty much to themselves. Their 70 series is basic and I'm pretty sure the door handles, hard stick, door cards, air conditioning control vents would be he same design as my old 60 series.

Not everyone wants a tonne of electrical components in their car. Wind up windows = less electrics. They even have a rubber peace attached to the rear view mirror now to stop it rattling. Just evolution. It's been doing the job for decades ago why change when the demand for a basic hose out 4x4 is still there.

If the 70 series didn't exist, there would be no other option for a big basic 4x4 that's capable of the loads and abuse that they have been handling since, well, the 40 series really.

The ONLY option really is the Defender.... And that kicks off at $90k so.....

There is certainly merit in offering a very basic and durable machine with little to no technology. But to be charging in excess of $70,000 for such a basic thing is puzzling and nothing more than a ripoff.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

There is certainly merit in offering a very basic and durable machine with little to no technology. But to be charging in excess of $70,000 for such a basic thing is puzzling and nothing more than a ripoff.

Nothing Puzzling about It..Tojo Know exactly How Much the Market will bear.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by BA-XT

Everyone hanging crap n Toyota. Yes they are overpriced. But have the market pretty much to themselves. Their 70 series is basic and I'm pretty sure the door handles, hard stick, door cards, air conditioning control vents would be he same design as my old 60 series.

Not everyone wants a tonne of electrical components in their car. Wind up windows = less electrics. They even have a rubber peace attached to the rear view mirror now to stop it rattling. Just evolution. It's been doing the job for decades ago why change when the demand for a basic hose out 4x4 is still there.

If the 70 series didn't exist, there would be no other option for a big basic 4x4 that's capable of the loads and abuse that they have been handling since, well, the 40 series really.

The ONLY option really is the Defender.... And that kicks off at $90k so.....

This will be on the scene soon:

https://www.drive.com.au/reviews/202...-along-review/

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

Having a Landcruiser is like having a dog in your handbag

I see your 300 series and raise you a 7 seater crew cab pick up for under $85,000, and you can drive it on your car licence
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Or this is also a good option, one of those Jap 4x4 trucks.

[prktkljokr]

Having a Landcruiser is like having a dog in your handbag

I see your 300 series and raise you a 7 seater crew cab pick up for under $85,000, and you can drive it on your car licence

[XR Martin]

I kinda want to like this, but I'm not sure on the probable nightmare of lack of reliability.
Although it couldn't be any worse than the Fuso posted above.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

I kinda want to like this, but I'm not sure on the probable nightmare of lack of reliability.
Although it couldn't be any worse than the Fuso posted above.

What an absolute beast, I need a single cab 4x4 Russian truck in my life, I wouldn't even take it off road I'd just use it to cruise about Melbourne taking it to the pub.

Needs more LS1 though.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

What an absolute beast, I need a single cab 4x4 Russian truck in my life, I wouldn't even take it off road I'd just use it to cruise about Melbourne taking it to the pub.

Needs more LS1 though.

Oh dear Franco.
And like the Landcruiser 70, this is why punters complain about comfort levels, electronics and performance levels, using them to putt around cities instead of their designed purpose.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

Although it couldn't be any worse than the Fuso posted above.

Yep Fuso had their issues 2011 to 2015, but they seem to be sorted now, I have a 2010, would have no problem buying a 2022 @ $80,000 inc ORC, the Isuzu 4x4 truck is over the $100,000 + ORC so up there with the Cruiser and they have their issues too.

I have not seen one of those Gaz trucks in person yet, the build quality looks ok but the chassis looks al little thin for my liking, the price is $90,000 + ORC for the base model so its Isuzu and Landcruiser money.

Just having a look at the chassis flex in their promo vid, it looks like its not going to last long if you intend to do a lot of off-road work with the bumper nearly touching each headlight and the amount of tray flex, I cant see the chassis being a strong point with that much flex and im sure we will see some cracked ones in the future or even separation from the body mounts.

Looks like its more than a capable 4x4 but how is the long term reliability, will it last with what Australia will throw at it ? or will it just make it through the warranty period like most Lada's did

Pretty sure most new Landcruiser owners dont even go off-road, I think out of every 10 we see at work, 1 will have some dirt on it, I think its more that they cost $100,000 and people like to show off rather than having a practical car for their requirements.

[Vekgib]

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

Pretty sure most new Landcruiser owners dont even go off-road, I think out of every 10 we see at work, 1 will have some dirt on it, I think its more that they cost $100,000 and people like to show off rather than having a practical car for their requirements.

Pretty much 50/50 at our work. For each Cruiser that comes in trashed, there's another that's spotless. Prados are the worst. Nobody looks after those.
Brother in law ( a true "hey look at me type ") owns a 2020 200 series VX that he keeps pristine. Mrs Vekgib and I got invited to his house for Christmas breakfast, so after some discussion at work, I was OK'd to take the 300 series Sahara demo we had for the Christmas weekend. Look on his face was a Christmas gift in itself.

[Sprintey]

The knocking noise was from everyone unable to afford the LandCruiser.

/sarc


(I can update on the young one's Disco1 V8 purchase. It has actually been reliable, sounds glorious, there's been mud antics, and it was 5% of the price of the Cruiser. I'm pleasantly surprised.)