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Old 09-02-2022, 07:44 PM   #1
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I'm not sure if this belongs in a detailing thread but I couldn't find a more suitable thread for it.

Has anyone used these? My concern is that in their video they don't show an accurate depiction of the speed/flow of draining oil. That tiny little trickle just isn't going to cut it. Is it because any faster and it'll spray all over the place? Is this bottle really able to catch the oil at a more realistic speed? Has anyone here tried one?

https://www.bunnings.com.au/adventur...torer_p0111147
https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...re/363985.html


I have taken it out of the detailing thread and created it's own thread.
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I'm not sure if this belongs in a detailing thread but I couldn't find a more suitable thread for it.

Has anyone used these? My concern is that in their video they don't show an accurate depiction of the speed/flow of draining oil. That tiny little trickle just isn't going to cut it. Is it because any faster and it'll spray all over the place? Is this bottle really able to catch the oil at a more realistic speed? Has anyone here tried one?

https://www.bunnings.com.au/adventur...torer_p0111147
https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...re/363985.html


I have taken it out of the detailing thread and created it's own thread.
Never used one, but seems a bit gimmicky to me. What do you with the oil in that container? Take it to the dump and leave it at the oil recycler station? Otherwise if you want decant that you are double handling the oil and for no benefit.

I think it would be able to handle the flow OK as that opening is the same size as the sump plug.
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Never used one, but seems a bit gimmicky to me. What do you with the oil in that container? Take it to the dump and leave it at the oil recycler station? Otherwise if you want decant that you are double handling the oil and for no benefit.

I think it would be able to handle the flow OK as that opening is the same size as the sump plug.
Supercheap generally have a big crate out the front where you can drop your used oil but it needs to be in a proper container/bottle. Or take it to the dump, yeah.

At the moment I double handle and it's a pain in the ***, this thing looks like it'd avoid all of that.... if it works. I wouldn't bother decanting it, for $15 I'd drain it straight into that bottle, put a lid on it and drop it off for disposal.
It just looks awful shallow and I'm suspicious it'd bounce over the side or just not drain into the bottle as fast as it's draining out of the sump.
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Supercheap generally have a big crate out the front where you can drop your used oil but it needs to be in a proper container/bottle. Or take it to the dump, yeah.

At the moment I double handle and it's a pain in the ***, this thing looks like it'd avoid all of that.... if it works. I wouldn't bother decanting it, for $15 I'd drain it straight into that bottle, put a lid on it and drop it off for disposal.
It just looks awful shallow and I'm suspicious it'd bounce over the side or just not drain into the bottle as fast as it's draining out of the sump.
Have you checked that they will accept that container?

Our dump will only accept oil that is in oil containers.
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Have you checked that they will accept that container?

Our dump will only accept oil that is in oil containers.
I haven't specifically asked for that particular container, no, but last time I asked their rule was as long as it's a container designed to hold oil. No milk bottles/etc.

I should have read the reviews, there's one that says it spits oil everywhere because there's no breather hole. Makes sense now why the video demo was just a small trickle of oil.
oh ****, they even included a picture. How mad would you be.


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Hole which oil drains into isn’t big enough and need some sort of sealable breather hole to release the air as oil fills container. End result ended in cleaning oil up for a couple of hours.
hayseed where did you get yours with the extra hole?
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hayseed where did you get yours with the extra hole?

I'll dig It out & take a pic(or 3) for You. Won't be until the Weekend though..

I bought them from Westrac, back when they were selling Cat Trucks..
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Or take it to the dump, yeah.
I think most council transfer stations take oil for free
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I've got 2. A 10 Litre One & a 60 Litre One for my Trucks.
Mine are a bit Different to those though, as they have an Air vent plug at the Top which makes a Huge difference when draining the oil out of a vehicle.

They're very easy to Empty Too, i put Mine into an IBC shuttle & when Full a collection service Comes & pumps It Out..
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I've got 2. A 10 Litre One & a 60 Litre One for my Trucks.
Mine are a bit Different to those though, as they have an Air vent plug at the Top which makes a Huge difference when draining the oil out of a vehicle
Does the air vent plug affect how fast the oil drains into the bottle?
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Does the air vent plug affect how fast the oil drains into the bottle?
The (more expensive) one from Bunnings has a breather hole.

If I was to buy one it'd be this one as it holds 12L and my car holds 8, which would be pushing it with an 8L container


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I have used the white one they sell from supercheap, if you are draining your oil it splashes out when you first drop the plug, only used it once and went back to the deep drain pan they sell, now have a drain tank I use with the hoist.

I now only use the supercheap one for draining coolant, it does not matter if a little splashes.
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I've got a couple of the supercheap ones, was delighted to find one after dads went missing sometime in the 90's

I'm yet to have more than a couple of drops to splash over the side, but I know what way the oil is going to flow out of the sump, so I place the pan accordingly
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I don't get it.
You drain oil into a traditional tray, poor new oil in engine.
Use empty oil container for old engine oil.
Empty used oil at recovery depot. Keep bottle to have as spare. You might even find an empty 20L container there and take that instead.

Pretty damn simple.
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I don't get it.
You drain oil into a traditional tray, poor new oil in engine.
Use empty oil container for old engine oil.
Empty used oil at recovery depot. Keep bottle to have as spare. You might even find an empty 20L container there and take that instead.

Pretty damn simple.
Doing an hour round trip to pour out oil just to keep a bottle versus doing a ten minute round trip to a store with oil collection and having to sacrifice the bottle, it's not really worth the extra time just to keep a bottle.

If you don't get it that's fine but just move along, this isn't a thread to argue about the only way to dispose of oil.
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I don't get it.
You drain oil into a traditional tray, poor new oil in engine.
Use empty oil container for old engine oil.
Empty used oil at recovery depot. Keep bottle to have as spare. You might even find an empty 20L container there and take that instead.

Pretty damn simple.
And what happens If you've bought a 10L as i did for the Ranger but only use 9L as it only takes 9.6L and you dont fully drain them?
Sacrifice a litre of oil by tipping the dirty oil in with it?
If you're going to throw out $20 worth of new oil you might as well buy the pan/bottle leesa has mentioned and toss it in the Supercheap bin.
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And what happens If you've bought a 10L as i did for the Ranger but only use 9L as it only takes 9.6L and you dont fully drain them?
Sacrifice a litre of oil by tipping the dirty oil in with it?
If you're going to throw out $20 worth of new oil you might as well buy the pan/bottle leesa has mentioned and toss it in the Supercheap bin.
My car takes 8L but my oil only comes in 5, 6 or 10L sizes. Any excess goes into empty milk bottles so I can use the original containers for the dirty stuff.
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My car takes 8L but my oil only comes in 5, 6 or 10L sizes. Any excess goes into empty milk bottles so I can use the original containers for the dirty stuff.
I do the same but don't you find it a nuisance? So much double handling and risking oil spilling. Wouldn't be it be convenient to eliminate a couple steps?

FastXR's valve, a piece of tubing and one of these drain bottles sounds pretty good. Open the valve, let it drain straight into the bottle, turn off the valve, put the lid on, drop it off for disposal. No spilling, no decanting, no sliding drain pans too fast and having a wave of it creep up over the edge.
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I do the same but don't you find it a nuisance? So much double handling and risking oil spilling. Wouldn't be it be convenient to eliminate a couple steps?
A little but it's no big deal, if I was that fussed I could eliminate all the steps and give it to 'the man' to do the lot
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And what happens If you've bought a 10L as i did for the Ranger but only use 9L as it only takes 9.6L and you dont fully drain them?
Sacrifice a litre of oil by tipping the dirty oil in with it?
If you're going to throw out $20 worth of new oil you might as well buy the pan/bottle leesa has mentioned and toss it in the Supercheap bin.
As I said, just grab a 20L container from anywhere and use that.
Use it to put all your engine oil, diff, gearbox, old mower fuel etc
Once a year empty it at your local oil recycling facility.
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I have one of these, got it about 15 years ago from super cheap but never seen them for sale anywhere locally again.. works great as it's pretty low and holds 10L, I just decant the used oil back into the fresh oil containers and take it up to the tip once I have my 20L worth

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About 30 yrs ago My Sister was living in a Share house in Sydney. One of the Tenants was a Courier .One day I went to see my sister. He was Giving His Van a Service..
He had parked It Over the Grate of the Storm water Drain in the Curb. Pulled the Sump Plug the Oil went through the Grate, down the Drain. Sump Plug back In Fill with Oil.. Good to Go...!!
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Seems to be a nonsensical concept.

I use a pretty normal (very cheap) plastic oil pan, I would guess it could hold a max of around 25L. I then fill up the car with the new oil, and then pour the old oil into the empty containers. Yes, I always have an empty or two around to cater for overlap.

Seems to me to be the classic "solution to a problem that doesn't exist" and not a very good one.
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All these people with spare containers just laying around as if empty containers grow on trees.
Anyways, the original question was answered moons back so imma exit stage left and leave you all to continue your shock and horror that others might live a different experience that doesn't result in available oil-grade containers just laying around for use.
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All these people with spare containers just laying around as if empty containers grow on trees.
go to your local council transfer station, they will give you dozens if you want them
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go to your local council transfer station, they will give you dozens if you want them
Agreed, thats where the ex veggie oil containers I'm given get left.
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All these people with spare containers just laying around as if empty containers grow on trees.
Anyways, the original question was answered moons back so imma exit stage left and leave you all to continue your shock and horror that others might live a different experience that doesn't result in available oil-grade containers just laying around for use.
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All these people with spare containers just laying around as if empty containers grow on trees.
Unless you have an oil-well in your back yard, or are making your own by growing peanuts, it's generally a pretty safe bet that your new oil came in a flipping container.

In a perfect world, you'd drain exactly 5 litres of oil, pour in a full container of new oil, then pour the old stuff into the empty.
(Obviously when things don't perfectly align, you'll need to improvise in the short term)
In point of fact since most cars will burn at least a little oil over time, you will ultimately need to dispose of less oil than you buy.
Plus, if you dispose of your oil by pouring into a communal drum, then you'll have plenty of empties.

Besides, the combo pan&bottles featured above, aren't a substitute for an empty, as you still need to decant the old oil.
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i use the old school style [?] which you place under engine, let oil drain into it & then carefully drain the oil back into the container which had the new oil in it. mine have the small open funnel as a pour spout which to me is the only drawback. as has already been mentioned ..... reuse, recycle
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i use the old school style [?] which you place under engine, let oil drain into it & then carefully drain the oil back into the container which had the new oil in it. mine have the small open funnel as a pour spout which to me is the only drawback. as has already been mentioned ..... reuse, recycle
Same here

Or alternatively miss the oil pan and dump half of it on the driveway, thats also one of my favorite tricks.
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