Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > Club and Speciality Forums > Forum Community Car Clubs > AU Falcon.com.au

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-09-2007, 12:30 AM   #1
daz_
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 70
Default I6 Fuel Economy...

So I know its all been asked and said before

I'm doing 90% highway kays and about the best I can manage over a few hundred km's is about 11L/100 this seems too high to me... I6 Auto Ute

Things to check?

Oxy Sensor
Cat

Anything else?

What will improve economy? Free up the intake?

I don't want to spend stupid money on this endeavor but it really doesn't feel like its running as freely as it should which is giving me the :togo:

daz_ is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-09-2007, 02:12 AM   #2
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,703
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

That's about right. Anywhere from 9 to 11 on the highway is normal - anything lower than 9 is just freaky, and anything above 11 is a bit rich, but not too bad. Over 12 is worth looking at.

If it's struggling at all through the rev range, prime suspect would be the cat.
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-09-2007, 11:09 AM   #3
daz_
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 70
Default

Well if you put the foot down it goes...

But just sorta seems to struggle to me unless you put the foot down

9 to 11 is normal? ! Yet they claim 8L/100?
daz_ is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-09-2007, 02:34 PM   #4
Dauphin
Irregular member
 
Dauphin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,941
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Endless work keeping the AU.com.au web site happening 
Default

By 90% highways kays to you mean on a 100 km/h freeway?

I get 7 and 8 all the time according to my trip computer on such roads. AU II VCT 6.

Are you using a real world calculation method?
__________________
2000 AU II FAIRLANE 75th ANNIVERSARY - big and shiny

My hovercraft is full of eels!


Movie Car Chase of the Week: Gene Hackman driving a 1971 Pontiac LeMans to chase an elevated train in The French Connection (1971).
Dauphin is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-09-2007, 07:59 PM   #5
daz_
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 70
Default

I drive 28km to work start car drive 1minute to freeway drive down freeway for 10mins stop at 2 sets of lights then do 80/100 the rest of the way no stops do have to slow a few times for roundabouts though

I'm counting those 2 stops at traffic lights and starting the car up from cold as 10%

I realize starting the car up and it will use more fuel while its warming up etc... But i think 90% is a fair figure more than fair infact...

The real world method I'm using it to fill the tank all the way to the brim and drive for a few hundred km and then fill the tank to the brim again to get a pretty exact I think method of measuring the fuel used...

After this tank I'll load up the diag screen again and see what it does use on the highway

Last edited by daz_; 12-09-2007 at 08:08 PM.
daz_ is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-09-2007, 09:10 PM   #6
mik
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
Default

fluctuating speeds will kill your economy every time.
mik is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-09-2007, 09:39 PM   #7
Crash Lander
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: At my place.
Posts: 139
Default

My DTE and distance travelled never total less than 730 combined. Often they total 800-880 combined. This is true, all the way down to the red fuel light coming on, and is consistent from one tank to the next.
I don't drive like a grandpa, and it does get a good kick in the guts from time to time.
My trip to work is from Portarlington Vic to Geelong Vic, which is about 45km (guessing) with 75% of it being 100km/h limits.
__________________
Some people think I suffer from A.D.D., but they... Oh LOOK! A Chicken!
Crash Lander is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-09-2007, 08:21 AM   #8
HLC
Audi S3
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney.
Posts: 8,307
Default

i wish i got your economy guys lol

shirt trips to uni FTL
__________________
HLC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-09-2007, 08:34 AM   #9
Dauphin
Irregular member
 
Dauphin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,941
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Endless work keeping the AU.com.au web site happening 
Default

If you do an amount of driving at between 80 - 89 km/h then that might explain it.

In my car, I consider this the bad zone for fuel economy because the engine's doing 1,900 - 2,000 revs in 4th gear before lockup at 90 (and resulting lower revs). I think it's because of my hi-stall torque converter but I don't remember if it was the same before when it had the factory one.
__________________
2000 AU II FAIRLANE 75th ANNIVERSARY - big and shiny

My hovercraft is full of eels!


Movie Car Chase of the Week: Gene Hackman driving a 1971 Pontiac LeMans to chase an elevated train in The French Connection (1971).
Dauphin is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-09-2007, 12:01 PM   #10
sly
Sly like a G6
 
sly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Hunter Valley Whine Country
Posts: 1,808
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dauphin
If you do an amount of driving at between 80 - 89 km/h then that might explain it.

In my car, I consider this the bad zone for fuel economy because the engine's doing 1,900 - 2,000 revs in 4th gear before lockup at 90 (and resulting lower revs). I think it's because of my hi-stall torque converter but I don't remember if it was the same before when it had the factory one.
My bog stock tranny and converter can lock up below 80. The lock-up point seems to vary depending on throttle position too. Get up it & the converter stays unlocked longer.
__________________
The Frankenfalcon... AU1.5 Wagon, BA brakes, AU2 booster, BA2 XR6T engine, stock from airbox to turbo, 8psi/98 octane tune 240RWKW, BF XR6T cat, quiet 3" zorst, Pex BSO660 & BSO439 mufflers, 84 db, built BTR box, 3.08 LSD, Emer SVI LPG, AU1 XR8 alloys, Momo wheel, JVC KDR746BT head unit, Aerpro steering wheel control wiring.

Sleeper, anyone?
sly is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-09-2007, 11:14 AM   #11
daz_
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 70
Default

The VY I used to have doing similar trips to this would do 9L/100 give or take, you could see a big difference doing a trip like this in the fuel economy

Yet I'm babying the thing around driving like an absolute grandpa and it gives back 11L/100 ? I thought the Falcon's were supposed to be better on fuel

If I even accelerate to 60 too quick I can feel the fuel gauge going down
daz_ is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-09-2007, 05:42 PM   #12
Creampuff
149 rwkw of Style
 
Creampuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Nth Brisbane
Posts: 1,277
Default

I know I am in the wrong car bracket but, I drive hard and get 11.4 in city and 8.8 on highway.....just stirring the pot.
__________________
2004 XR6 Mercury Silver
Creampuff is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-09-2007, 10:32 AM   #13
daz_
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 70
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Creampuff
I know I am in the wrong car bracket but, I drive hard and get 11.4 in city and 8.8 on highway.....just stirring the pot.
Yeap that is exactly what I'd expect! I managed to quite easily get it over 13/100 the other week driving around mainly locally and it wasn't even particularly up it... Isn't the BA supposed to be worse on fuel than the AU?
daz_ is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 13-09-2007, 10:25 PM   #14
InfernoSR
Sales Representative
 
InfernoSR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Young
Posts: 5,314
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: For research and posted write up on cooling system care and repair in AU.COM and offering help where possible 
Default

Approx 30Ltrs of LPG and Approx 30Ltrs of ULP from Batemans bay to Bathurst in 6hours... thats with plenty of breaks and some rather heavy footed spots :P That is also driving through the Blue Mountains and towards Canberra. I only have an AU Forte' I 4ltr Auto Duel Fuel and NO Cruise Control.
__________________
InfernoSR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-09-2007, 11:03 AM   #15
Dark Horse
_Oo===oO_
 
Dark Horse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1,471
Default

I might suggest you reset your ECU by disconnecting the battery terminals for at least 45 minutes (or something you can do overnight). See how that goes as well.
__________________
COURAGE - ENDURANCE - MATESHIP - SACRIFICE
Dark Horse is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-09-2007, 05:55 PM   #16
Creampuff
149 rwkw of Style
 
Creampuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Nth Brisbane
Posts: 1,277
Default

Daz, I don't know which is meant to have better economy, this is my facts. Anyway, at least we all drive the right cars....FORD
__________________
2004 XR6 Mercury Silver
Creampuff is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 14-09-2007, 09:35 PM   #17
daz_
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 70
Default

Hahaha!
daz_ is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 01:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL