The dark side

scottyg938 · 01-08-2012, 03:52 PM

Hey all.

I'm considering crossing over to the dark side

An 06 VE SS-V has popped up at a price that is almost too good to resist.

Wanting to know if any of you have had experience with these?
Is there anything I should be looking out for (apart from the wrong badge on it)?
Any known faults / problems that might prove costly to repair?

My BA is starting to get on in age and K's (186,000) and a few problems are beginning to show up, as much as I love my XR8 it might end up cheaper and easier to just move on to something a little bit newer and fresher.

irish2 · 01-08-2012, 04:08 PM

Going from a '03 to an '06 doesn't really sound like it will be much 'newer and fresher'. I would get one a bit newer in the hope any niggling issues were sorted out on the line.

turbodewd · 01-08-2012, 04:11 PM

FG Falcon turbo.................do it! Your boners will last longer. More chicks will dig you and you will feel about 9 months younger after driving one.

Consider not the dark brown side lest your balls shrink and your buttocks get wrinkly badly on one side.

scottyg938 · 01-08-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by turbodewd

FG Falcon turbo.................do it! Your boners will last longer. More chicks will dig you and you will feel about 9 months younger after driving one.

The only FG turbo for sale at the moment that has everything I want (manual, Sunroof & leather is about twice the price of the SS

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Originally Posted by irish2

Going from a '03 to an '06 doesn't really sound like it will be much 'newer and fresher'. I would get one a bit newer in the hope any niggling issues were sorted out on the line.

It has about 80,000k less than what mine has which will take me a good 3-4 years to equal

Falcman0o7 · 01-08-2012, 04:16 PM

Don't do it!
+1 for the turbo

NeoBF · 01-08-2012, 04:30 PM

Haha sure why not do it?

Plus, by owning a Holden V8, you only need to change the cam as far as modding goes ;) as that also seems to magically cover your exhaust, valve springs, headwork, OTR etc...lol

Only issue I can think of off the top of my head is there were a bunch of electrical gremlins, most which were resolved I believe. Also some issues with colour harmony fascia to body if that bothers you

Kable72 · 01-08-2012, 04:33 PM

There are some FG Turbos going for some good prices atm mate. Have a look at some of them before you settle on this one.

MethodX · 01-08-2012, 04:39 PM

Go for it, V8 is V8 after all.

burnz · 01-08-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scottyg938

Hey all.

I'm considering crossing over to the dark side

An 06 VE SS-V has popped up at a price that is almost too good to resist.

Wanting to know if any of you have had experience with these?
Is there anything I should be looking out for (apart from the wrong badge on it)?
Any known faults / problems that might prove costly to repair?

My BA is starting to get on in age and K's (186,000) and a few problems are beginning to show up, as much as I love my XR8 it might end up cheaper and easier to just move on to something a little bit newer and fresher.

actually a very "fun" car to drive..
handle, power down, reliable, easy at the limit, FE2 has great feed back..

Powdered Toast Man · 01-08-2012, 04:56 PM

My brother has a 2012 VE SS-V. All I can tell you is it is pretty comfortable and smooth to ride in. I have only driven it around the block so my impressions arent very well informed.

Only problem with VE SSs is that old saying "they're like ____ , everybody has one."

lockieoc · 01-08-2012, 05:00 PM

I dunno, they don't really do it for me.
They feel very uninspired, almost lazy, never feels like they ever get up and go. Mind you I've only ever had experience with the autos, which are pathetic may I add. But for a comfy family car that will provide mild thrills and a nice V8 rumble then there not a bad car.

burnz · 01-08-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Powdered Toast Man

My brother has a 2012 VE SS-V. All I can tell you is it is pretty comfortable and smooth to ride in. I have only driven it around the block so my impressions arent very well informed.

Only problem with VE SSs is that old saying "they're like ____ , everybody has one."

you should pry it from his hands, that unit has FE3..
better control again on the limit.

AndyXR6T · 01-08-2012, 05:09 PM

I drove a few just before I bought my Turbo. They are nice cars and have plenty of grunt. If it wasn't for the price tag (which was about ridiculous for year model and Kms on it) then I would of purchased one. But once I drove the fg turbo I knew that it was a much better car. The fg handles better, feels like it has more go and interior is a lot more comfortable. In the end I got my turbo fur about $6k less than what I thought I was going to pay for a SS

AU Mont · 01-08-2012, 05:13 PM

so you found a VE SS in the early 20's?

have you considered maybe an early HSV Grange or a 05' Clubsport for the same price?

grange
http://www.carsales.com.au/car/brand...CYear:2003,Max

clubsport
http://www.carsales.com.au/car/brand...005,Max&page=1

**ebxr8240** · 01-08-2012, 05:35 PM

www.ls1.com.au

burnz · 01-08-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ebxr8240

www.ls1.com.au

i beleive he labeled the thead... "the dark side"..

einstein is not needed here.

**ebxr8240** · 01-08-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

i beleive he labeled the thead... "the dark side"..

einstein is not needed here.

Why ask here ?? This is a Ford forum..
Einstein...

1TUFFUTE · 01-08-2012, 06:57 PM

seeing as for as long as i can remember the xr6t has been king on the road...youd be doing yourself an injustice by not giving the xr6t a drive.Itll also be cheaper to own insure and run then the ss. Rarer aswell and you most likely wont be stuck with black red or white as colours

Mind you i have nothing bad to say about the ss-v. Apparently they are fine.

burnz · 01-08-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ebxr8240

Why ask here ?? This is a Ford forum..
Einstein...

\
enthusiasts springs to mind, car forum pays zero relevance.

cedric · 01-08-2012, 05:50 PM

my mate has one and put about 150000 km on it and the only prob has been the stereo unit ,which was replaced under warrenty. very nice car, sound good,excelent fuel economy,nice manual gearbox, but as others have said they are VERY common. buy the look of it after 2016 we will all have to buy them anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bossxr8 · 01-08-2012, 06:07 PM

Electrical issues are common, as are battery drainage problems, but Holden may have done a BEM upgrade to fix that.

Auto transmissions are rubbish too.

scottyg938 · 01-08-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Electrical issues are common, as are battery drainage problems, but Holden may have done a BEM upgrade to fix that.

Auto transmissions are rubbish too.

Do you know what the electrical issues are?
I won't be buying an auto for a fair few years yet so that won't be a problem.
I've read that they have clutch problems with the manual ones.

sneaky · 01-08-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scottyg938

I've read that they have clutch problems with the manual ones.

when you give it a boot full and quickly change from 1st to 2nd the clutch pedal doesn't come back up off the floor, but 2nd engages. i usually just pull the pedal back up with my foot before the 2nd to 3rd change.

i have a 07 SSV manual with exhaust for the V8 sound. i was looking at FG XR6T's for our 'family' car because my wife didn't want a V8 - so she got her SUV and i got my V8 for me

and now she loves driving my car and uses my car for her business (hers has kids seats in it and not enough room for stock)

i know the 6T's are quicker, but they just don't have the sound of the 8, and i figure most of my time will be driving sensibly so at least my car will sound nice at the speed limit

my car has nearly 80k's on it without major problems that i know of yet and i have had for since march. mine has a small power steering leak that i'm chasing at the moment though. i test drove one car that had a hard life, noises and clunks from the rear, clunky rubbish gear box and a massive knock in the front brakes or steering.. i steered well clear of that car.

and as people have said the auto's aren't much chop especially compared to the ZF in the falsons - but people seem happier with the holden auto after a tune.

TUF270 is selling his SS so it might be worth asking him about them.

MustangNut · 02-08-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sneaky

when you give it a boot full and quickly change from 1st to 2nd the clutch pedal doesn't come back up off the floor, but 2nd engages. i usually just pull the pedal back up with my foot before the 2nd to 3rd change.

That's odd I've had an '08 SSV for four years now and have never seen that behaviour - my clutch engages/disengages about 2 inches from the top of it's arc and is always quick on release. I do know that the VYs had a restrictor in the clutch return line to prevent the resivoir from getting to low; I don't think they did that with the VEs as well.

EgoFalcon · 01-08-2012, 06:49 PM

http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/in.../itemId/952863

Auslandau · 01-08-2012, 06:55 PM

Settle a bit boys and girls ...... nothing wrong with asking the question and those with nothing constructive to say about the actual topic (like myself) should refrain from commenting.

AU Mont · 01-08-2012, 07:02 PM

they only issue with a turbo falcon is HE WANTS AN 8 !!

scottyg938 · 01-08-2012, 07:26 PM

Not necessarily, As much as I love the sound of a V8, having owned a T6 falcon (EF) before and loved the power it had.
The issue with the turbo falcons would be the price unless I went for a BF

flappist · 01-08-2012, 07:38 PM

If 2006 is the age then there are a squillion manual BF2 XR8s & XR6Ts in the low 20s with quite a few F6s & GTs in the mid 20s.

duaned · 01-08-2012, 07:49 PM

There is certainty that the VE has a better chassis than the FG, it turns in better than the FG, and puts the power down better than a FG ( Ford's three areas that need improvement) but that's where it ends in my opinion. If you want the VE go for it, your money, your call. They are not a bad car after all. It's just that, overall, the FG is better.