Undercover squeegee cops nab dozens of drivers on phones

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Be careful getting your windscreen cleaned at intersections.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...cbee24cf812580

[Vesper Martini]

$484 fine and 4 demerit points
38 caught so $18,393 for an afternoons work

[BENT_8]

Now thats innovative, i like it.

Of course the downside is its probably shut down the intersection squeegie industry overnight though.

Although i never did trust those guys, there was always something shady going on with them, they made it very clear..

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I wonder if the cops kept the tips they made.

[Outbackjack]

Sneaky but good. I have no sympathy for arrogant pricks that think that whatever they are doing is more important than someone elses life.

[DJR-351]

"However, what is not known is how much the undercover cops made in tips from cleaning car windows."

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Outbackjack

Sneaky but good. I have no sympathy for arrogant pricks that think that whatever they are doing is more important than someone elses life.

I would feel that way too if there was a compelling link between the two. 13 serious crashes in NSW involving phones, out of 42,000 fines issued. That's not to say phone usage isn't a factor in minor non-injury crashes, but it would seem its more of a nuisance than a scourge on our roads.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by b0son

I would feel that way too if there was a compelling link between the two. 13 serious crashes in NSW involving phones, out of 42,000 fines issued. That's not to say phone usage isn't a factor in minor non-injury crashes, but it would seem its more of a nuisance than a scourge on our roads.

I want to know how accurate that would be. You would think if someone crashed while messing around with their phone they might make up another excuse in a hope to not get in as much trouble. As for crash investigators how do they know if someone was playing a game or doing something else moments before a crash? Phone calls and texts messages record times, but most things on modern phones wouldn't.
I am going to guess they cause more acccidents than we think.

Also I'm sick of beeping people at green lights so **** 'em

[jpd80]

Or just ride around on a bicycle with a GoPro on helmet
Most car drivers wouldn’t give it a second look

[GT450]

It's really simple to discourage most recidivists, just issue fines and confiscate phones. No excuses , this behaviour puts all road users and pedestrians at risk and there is absolutely No reason it should be tolerated . I see it every morning and afternoon on the commute to work, some are blatant some covert and they wont stop until they realise it's going to hurt them much more that it does now. $484 and 3 demerits isn't doing the job, so hats off to the boys in blue, in this case i agree with them.
GT450

[zipping]

Originally Posted by GT450

It's really simple to discourage most recidivists, just issue fines and confiscate phones. No excuses , this behaviour puts all road users and pedestrians at risk and there is absolutely No reason it should be tolerated . I see it every morning and afternoon on the commute to work, some are blatant some covert and they wont stop until they realise it's going to hurt them much more that it does now. $484 and 3 demerits isn't doing the job, so hats off to the boys in blue, in this case i agree with them.
GT450

A recidivist is a convicted criminal who re-offends, repeatedly.

Think you getting a bit carried away, road safety is important but lets not go giving the state confiscation powers and classifying overwhelmingly law-abiding citizens as recidivists.

I don't know the time span of the operation but 38 out of possibly 2-3000 cars passing doesn't suggest draconian action is required, its not as if there is a spike in road fatalities since the mobile phone invention.

In Victoria the road toll is 1/3 of what it was in 1989 with far more drivers on the road.

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Originally Posted by zipping

In Victoria the road toll is 1/3 of what it was in 1989 with far more drivers on the road.

True, but cars have also become a lot safer as well.

[whitelion65]

So they cleaned out their wallets, then wiped a few points off their licences ;-)

I don’t know about serious crashes, but the loss of traffic flow due to inattentive behaviour is worth pursuing.

[GT450]

Hi Zipping , i see them every day and nothing seems to be going to change the behaviour of some of these people,they use their phone every time they drive, so yes, they are recidivist offenders. They have no respect for this law and the big stick approach needs to be taken as they don't seem to care about large fines or demerit points.
It has nothing to do with the reduction in the road toll it's about teaching drivers that they have a responsibility to all around them, at the moment it seems it's all about what they want , to hell with the consequences. I know you live in Melbourne so you must see this law being flaunted daily. If it was speeding the cops would be on to it forthwith as it fills the coffers it's just harder to detect . If this sort of operation is what it takes , so be it , as the number of times i have had an idiot behind me with his head looking down at
his lap instead of the road ahead makes me cringe .....just waiting for the bang.
GT450

[zipping]

Originally Posted by GT450

Hi Zipping , i see them every day and nothing seems to be going to change the behaviour of some of these people,they use their phone every time they drive, so yes, they are recidivist offenders. They have no respect for this law and the big stick approach needs to be taken as they don't seem to care about large fines or demerit points.
It has nothing to do with the reduction in the road toll it's about teaching drivers that they have a responsibility to all around them, at the moment it seems it's all about what they want , to hell with the consequences. I know you live in Melbourne so you must see this law being flaunted daily. If it was speeding the cops would be on to it forthwith as it fills the coffers it's just harder to detect . If this sort of operation is what it takes , so be it , as the number of times i have had an idiot behind me with his head looking down at
his lap instead of the road ahead makes me cringe .....just waiting for the bang.
GT450

If only the Victorian judiciary had your sensible attitude to actual recidivists.

[Craig@AUDI]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

Be careful getting your windscreen cleaned at intersections.

Sorry mate, no loose change today, can i pay using this?

https://www.samsung.com/au/apps/samsungpay/

Waddya mean $484 and a $2 tip for the windscreen wipe???

[jpd80]

I like immediate confiscation of Phone for say 30 days, an immediate control measure.

Could you imagine the melt down...........

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I like immediate confiscation of Phone for say 30 days, an immediate control measure.

Could you imagine the melt down...........

Or a more permanent measure...
Crush them like we do with hoon cars.

[wodahs]

not that I dislike this idea but isn't it also illegal to conduct window cleaning at an intersection ?

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

Or a more permanent measure...
Crush them like we do with hoon cars.

I honestly think it should go one step further and have a ban for a month on owning an active telco connection , so thy cant just replace it (be new phone or a cheapy prepaid or whatever) and continue

[Warrenk]

Originally Posted by jpd80

I like immediate confiscation of Phone for say 30 days, an immediate control measure.

Could you imagine the melt down...........

Confiscation won't stop most people as they will probably have a old one laying around somewhere. Just treat the mobile phone users who are using them while driving the same way they treat "hoon" drivers. Impound their car the same as the "hoon law". If they won't learn from their vehicle be impounded, just confiscate their car(or truck) after the 3rd or 4th infringement.

Warren

[Olbucko]

Originally Posted by Warrenk

Confiscation won't stop most people as they will probably have a old one laying around somewhere. Just treat the mobile phone users who are using them while driving the same way they treat "hoon" drivers. Impound their car the same as the "hoon law". If they won't learn from their vehicle be impounded, just confiscate their car(or truck) after the 3rd or 4th infringement.

Warren

Not so simple for many people, they will have lost their sim card, settings and possibly their contacts, setting up a replacement phone is not easy for many people.
For a second offence the phone should be destroyed in front of them.

[kmav23]

Originally Posted by Olbucko

Not so simple for many people, they will have lost their sim card, settings and possibly their contacts, setting up a replacement phone is not easy for many people.
For a second offence the phone should be destroyed in front of them.

All data on phones are backed up on the cloud now and you just get a new sim card.

Larger fines, demerits and losing your licence is enough.

[Guzz226]

Originally Posted by jpd80

I like immediate confiscation of Phone for say 30 days, an immediate control measure.

Could you imagine the melt down...........

Crush the phone on the spot. Instant justice.

[Beastie]

Today's society can't decide what's worse...

Crush the mobile or

Crush the car...

Stats or no stats...leave the mobile alone whilst in control of a car...

[73 4V XB]

Originally Posted by wodahs

well no you cant
even if you can use you nav screen for them functions
as this is even covered under the Victorian (and other states) mobile phone rules
Navigation devices and GPS units
Hide



it even covers smart watches amongst a wide rang of things

But a CB radio is ok
Here’s a linky for NSW.
https://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/#.../div1/rule.300

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by 73 4V XB

But a CB radio is ok
Here’s a linky for NSW.
https://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/#.../div1/rule.300

That's because CB radio is one way at a time communication

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by 73 4V XB

But a CB radio is ok
Here’s a linky for NSW.
https://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/#.../div1/rule.300

yes I know as I had read the info for all states !
and you cant utilize it for any other purpose than as a CB radio
you cant check your email ~ face book , or even stare at it for a prolong period of time whilst trying to remember some ones number whilst inputting it of trying to find the name in you contacts
and sorry that it annoys you that this is the case but I don't write the rules we all have to abide by

and how ever if deemed they can still book you for use of the CB anyways under the dangerous driving law if they feel the need

they don't always make rules because of the "every one" situation but usually coz the DUMB and every one gets affected by the nock on of the rule

[CyberWasp]

With Sync3 there is not need to be touching your phone.

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

With Sync3 there is not need to be touching your phone.

Unless you are a Millennial needing Facebook, Twitter and the rest while on the move.

[Falcon SXR8]

Good, the amount of people i see driving with there heads in there laps is ridiculous. Just the other day a p plate girl came past me as i was at an intersection and she wasn't even looking where she was going, head buried in her lap. Then i caught up with her along the highway again and she was still at it, she even drifted right off the road spraying my car with rocks.