Covid 19 -

[asagaai]

Here is an excellent but lengthy article on Covid 19.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-f4d3d9cd99ca


The Western World is behind the 8 ball in engaging with mitigation measures.

The article is technical with graphs, but snap grabs the following conclusions:

The coronavirus is coming to you.
It’s coming at an exponential speed: gradually, and then suddenly.
It’s a matter of days. Maybe a week or two.
When it does, your healthcare system will be overwhelmed.
Your fellow citizens will be treated in the hallways.
Exhausted healthcare workers will break down. Some will die.
They will have to decide which patient gets the oxygen and which one dies.
The only way to prevent this is social distancing today. Not tomorrow. Today.
That means keeping as many people home as possible, starting now.
As a politician, community leader or business leader, you have the power and the responsibility to prevent this.
You might have fears today: What if I overreact? Will people laugh at me? Will they be angry at me? Will I look stupid? Won’t it be better to wait for others to take steps first? Will I hurt the economy too much?
But in 2–4 weeks, when the entire world is in lockdown, when the few precious days of social distancing you will have enabled will have saved lives, people won’t criticize you anymore: They will thank you for making the right decision.

We are all in for a very interesting period over the next few weeks....

[b0son]

Originally Posted by asagaai

The coronavirus is coming to you.

I've kind of resigned myself to burying one of my parents... my dad's running around all over town. Refuses to use skype, still wants to meet with customers/suppliers face to face. Just doesnt realise that if we have 300 cases diagnosed, we probably actually have 3000-6000 cases in the community, and doubling every 3 days.

I'm disturbed by the tepid response from the government. Schools should have been locked down from today. Instead they put self-policed restrictions on people flying in. That ship has sailed. We now need to focus on reducing the rate of community transmission.

It's abundantly clear Scott Morrison can only be described as a guy that won a vote. He's no leader....

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by b0son

I've kind of resigned myself to burying one of my parents... my dad's running around all over town. Refuses to use skype, still wants to meet with customers/suppliers face to face. Just doesnt realise that if we have 300 cases diagnosed, we probably actually have 3000-6000 cases in the community, and doubling every 3 days.

I'm disturbed by the tepid response from the government. Schools should have been locked down from today. Instead they put self-policed restrictions on people flying in. That ship has sailed. We now need to focus on reducing the rate of community transmission.

It's abundantly clear Scott Morrison can only be described as a guy that won a vote. He's no leader....

The world nations were inept & slow to react to this virus as China should have been locked down immediately with all travel suspended which may have stopped this insidious virus spreading; in my opinion the horse has already bolted..
As for conspiracy theories I think the Chinese has done well in destroying the western world economies as this will have big implications for us for a long time.
I'm just waiting for the riots to happen which will be the next problem we will be facing.
All take care and watch your backs......cheers.

[Franco Cozzo]

I don't think we will get to the stage of riots, they need to stop tolerating the crap going on in shopping centers at the moment.

I'm not sure why Woolies Safeway has decided on stopping it's online delivery service - surely that was the best way to enforce limits per customer and get product to customers without the crap happening in their shops.

Open it for the oldies in the morning or evening, everyone else uses E-commerce platform so the staff are just smashing out orders and loading up delivery vehicles rather than regulating punch ups in store over toilet paper.

[Citroënbender]

I presumed it was a workplace OH&S type ruling that forced their hand in the delivery issue. Otherwise it would be money for jam (literally!).

The hoarders’ buy-it-big book has apparently expanded to take in more foodstuffs and provisions.

[superyob]

[QUOTE=b0son;6412964 It's abundantly clear Scott Morrison can only be described as a guy that won a vote. He's no leader....[/QUOTE]

Agreed...

[71cop]

From tomorrow Woolies will introduce a seniors only shopping hour to help the elderly amid the panic buying of toilet paper and other goods across the country. From tomorrow onwards Australia's older population and those with disability will have exclusive access to the supermarkets from the hours of 7am to 8am. Only those with a relevant Government issued concession card will be able to enter the stores at this time, with stores then opened to the general public at 8am.

[Citroënbender]

What if they need physical assistance?

[asagaai]

In NSW all hearings in the Supreme and District Courts with juries have been cancelled- excluding jury trials with juries already in progress.

The progression of isolation by curtailing business/commercial activity is only just beginning in AUS.

[71cop]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

What if they need physical assistance?

No different to anyone needing a guide dog I would imagine.

[cheap]

Wait till it gets to our prison system - that will then be out-of-control ugly.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by cheap

Wait till it gets to our prison system - that will then be out-of-control ugly.

Why? Its a cold, they will sniffle for a bit and be fine (or not). Business as usual, if your talking about the management of then that will be interesting but there are some sectors that just need to keep on going.

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by 71cop

No different to anyone needing a guide dog I would imagine.

So, if we take my deaf, epileptic, dementia-stricken father as a fair example of someone needing assistance - do you see me being allowed in there at seven, to shop on his behalf?

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

So, if we take my deaf, epileptic, dementia-stricken father as a fair example of someone needing assistance - do you see me being allowed in there at seven, to shop on his behalf?

No, you can go at other times and shop for him.

[71cop]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

So, if we take my deaf, epileptic, dementia-stricken father as a fair example of someone needing assistance - do you see me being allowed in there at seven, to shop on his behalf?

So if this was a genuine concern for you I would think you would take it up with the supermarkets involved not look here for details specific to your situation. I do not work for Woolworths so therefore I cannot answer your question.
I was simply sharing information that I had seen elsewhere and there was no mention at that time about scenarios like the one you brought up.

[foxtrot3]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

So, if we take my deaf, epileptic, dementia-stricken father as a fair example of someone needing assistance - do you see me being allowed in there at seven, to shop on his behalf?

Hi. If you are someone who cares for or supports an invalid person you would have or be entitled to a companion card which like any other benefit card would get you into the supermarket early, unlike myself who is 65 but because I choose to work for a living cant get a seniors card or pension/health-care card get locked out till 8.00 AM. Cheers MD

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by 71cop

From tomorrow Woolies will introduce a seniors only shopping hour to help the elderly amid the panic buying of toilet paper and other goods across the country. From tomorrow onwards Australia's older population and those with disability will have exclusive access to the supermarkets from the hours of 7am to 8am. Only those with a relevant Government issued concession card will be able to enter the stores at this time, with stores then opened to the general public at 8am.

I take this shopping rule applies to Victoria only, or is it a national thing?
I do my food or grocery shop every 2nd Wednesday, so I got a week and a half, but that's cool, as long as everyone learns the rules be fair and buy just what you need, like me, shop every 2 weeks on pension day.

Its never going to end you know, they had over a year to sort this and haven't got a clue, but when you look in the wrong place for a cause then there will never be a cure, we just adapt as usual and become victims of life's circumstances, that's what we are trained to do, be put in our place, that's OK if you're a dummy, but I aint!


Cheers Billy.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by slowsnake

I take this shopping rule applies to Victoria only, or is it a national thing?
I do my food or grocery shop every 2nd Wednesday, so I got a week and a half, but that's cool, as long as everyone learns the rules be fair and buy just what you need, like me, shop every 2 weeks on pension day.

Not keeping up are you?

That post is over a year old!

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

Not keeping up are you?

That post is over a year old!

Then whoever is running this site wants to stop playing silly buggers?
And why?..why do that??


Cheers Billy.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by slowsnake

Then whoever is running this site wants to stop playing silly buggers?
And why?..why do that??


Cheers Billy.

What "silly buggers" are you referring to"

And why do what?

[kmav23]

If your over 80 or have health issues, your in a high risk section and should not go outside for a few months, self quarantine.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by kmav23

If your over 80 or have health issues, your in a high risk section and should not go outside for a few months, self quarantine.

This. I imagine I'll be doing food drops to my parents doorstep for a while. Both high risk.

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by b0son

This. I imagine I'll be doing food drops to my parents doorstep for a while. Both high risk.

Yep, same here...
both vulnerable especially my father who has multiple illnesses and mobility issues. The biggest disappointment is the absolute animal mentality we have all witnessed in the last couple of weeks at our shopping centres. 1st world by name and 3rd , even 4th world world by nature. Disgusting and shameful and yet somehow not surprising. Ivory tower ......much.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by kmav23

If your over 80 or have health issues, your in a high risk section and should not go outside for a few months, self quarantine.

I wonder who going to shop for these some of these elderly people who might not have any relatives to assist them or keep any eye on them ....catch 22.

Have you been shopping lately to see the empty shelves, even now it is getting hopeless with most meat supplies sold out.
Wait until the industries wind down due to sickness & frightened workers.
Going to get a lot more uglier if food essentials remain in short supply, will be just like shopping in the old USSR days.


PS: I have health issues but it will not stop me going about doing what I want to do....I will run the risk!

[b0son]

The government havent helped. They've provided no info on what type of lockdowns will be trialled, so people are assuming worst case scenario (2mths, like China). There will be lockdowns though, its only a question of when.

[Citroënbender]

The nursing home we’re entangled with, has closed to all but permanent/current residents and staff. They are offering some of the services normally available onsite to non-residents, such as physio, as outcalls at pretty much 200%.

Subject to staff availability, other in-home care services like social support and cleaning/personal care will continue at standard rates. I’m expecting the workers who service these domains, will soon thin in ranks as well.

The museum in Darlinghurst has closed until at least the end of March, they emailed members this afternoon advising.

[X-AHH]

Originally Posted by b0son

The government havent helped. They've provided no info on what type of lockdowns will be trialled, so people are assuming worst case scenario (2mths, like China). There will be lockdowns though, its only a question of when.

+1
Sco Mo speach/press conference yesterday.

I couldn't believe how many times he mentioned common sense and how much emphasis he was placing on it to make a difference to the eventual outcomes.

Common sense no longer exists the way it used to in our society because people are encouraged most of the time not think for themselves.

We're doomed if we rely on common sense.

[MercuryT]

Why can't people comment on ScoMo?

He's making the calls FFS. (obviously based on advice which has been poor)

Talk about over-moderation, Chinese like ironically.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Why can't people comment on ScoMo?

He's making the calls FFS. (obviously based on advice which has been poor)

Talk about over-moderation, Chinese like ironically.

Have you ever read the T&C's ?

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

Have you ever read the T&C's ?

That fair comment is unacceptable?

Maybe I need a refresh then.

ScoMo has been disastrous so far. It's not political comment just an observation of his decisions.