North Korea vs The US

[Ford17]

Anyone else double-thinking this, and wondering what sort of fallout might stem from Guam into Australia?

[Crazy Dazz]

It's pretty much the dream-result for the US.
They have been itching to pound NK into the dirt for 60 years, but the last thing they want is a ground war.
An excuse to sit back and bomb the crap out of them, whilst looking like the "good guys" is exactly what they want.

Most likely result is that the Chinese will sit back and wait for the USA to waste billions in ordinance, then roll in to "restore order" and install a regime that whilst notionally communist remains friendly to them and doesn't **** off the rest of the world.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

It's pretty much the dream-result for the US.
They have been itching to pound NK into the dirt for 60 years, but the last thing they want is a ground war.
An excuse to sit back and bomb the crap out of them, whilst looking like the "good guys" is exactly what they want.

Most likely result is that the Chinese will sit back and wait for the USA to waste billions in ordinance, then roll in to "restore order" and install a regime that whilst notionally communist remains friendly to them and doesn't **** off the rest of the world.

I can tell you. Pretty much none of the common folk here are interested in any more wars. Yet if the base on Guam gets nuked, something bad will happen.

Hopefully a missile defense system will be in place. Otherwise we will see some MOABS dropping on Kim.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

I can tell you. Pretty much none of the common folk here are interested in any more wars.

Who said they were?
Besides, when was the last time (or indeed ever) that a war was instigated by common folk.
As I said, there's no way the USA wants to send ground troops in, but an excuse to bomb the crap out of them would go down a treat.
Hitting Guam, whether its a nuke or a conventional warhead, won't really effect the USA, but will get the good ole boys good and fired up.
The US military is BIG Business, and they need enemies to stomp.

But lets also not forget that it took Reagan to free the hostages, and he also ended the cold-war, precisely because the soviets feared he was senile enough to be manipulated by his military advisers.
Having Kim Sik Fuk believe that Trump is crazy enough to attack him could be just what we need.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Who said they were?
Besides, when was the last time (or indeed ever) that a war was instigated by common folk.
As I said, there's no way the USA wants to send ground troops in, but an excuse to bomb the crap out of them would go down a treat.
Hitting Guam, whether its a nuke or a conventional warhead, won't really effect the USA, but will get the good ole boys good and fired up.
The US military is BIG Business, and they need enemies to stomp.

But lets also not forget that it took Reagan to free the hostages, and he also ended the cold-war, precisely because the soviets feared he was senile enough to be manipulated by his military advisers.
Having Kim Sik Fuk believe that Trump is crazy enough to attack him could be just what we need.

The politicos are already talking crap. Using phrases like "military options are locked and loaded".

If the USA makes a preemptive strike, a lot of politicos will lose their jobs next election.

If the North strike first we have B1, B2 and B52 bombers stationed at Guam that would need to be scrambled prior to any incoming. Also a Thaad missle defense system. I am sure they are all ready have their payloads MOABS and assorted bunker busters. Some F22s and F16s as well.

Really hope cooler heads prevail.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Ford17

Anyone else double-thinking this, and wondering what sort of fallout might stem from Guam into Australia?

NSW will be in a lot of trouble.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by cs123

NSW will be in a lot of trouble.

Not as much as Qld...

[MITCHAY]

I'd like to think it will fizzle out like every other time before but who the hell knows with these two children in charge.

[LG17]

Two leaders who have both escaped from the asylum...
What could possibly go wrong?

[GASWAGON]

Wot i dont understand is if you look at the footage of Kim's soldiers marching in order their all holding rifles that appear to be very very old.

Kim may have nukes but i don't think the soldiers are anywhere near as advanced as U.S sophisticated defence systems.

Does Kim really have the balls to nuke Guam......Lets wait and see.???

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by CoolBFWagon

Wot i dont understand is if you look at the footage of Kim's soldiers marching in order their all holding rifles that appear to be very very old.

Kim may have nukes but i don't think the soldiers are anywhere near as advanced as U.S sophisticated defence systems.

Does Kim really have the balls to nuke Guam......Lets wait and see.???

The whole regime is based on propaganda and lies, for all we know , they may still be using recycled WW2 era equipment. But it's hard to guess these things, like a bank robber holding a toy gun, it's a bit difficult to choose to find out whether he has a real or a toy one in that circumstance

[Mainforcepatrol]

Originally Posted by CoolBFWagon

Wot i dont understand is if you look at the footage of Kim's soldiers marching in order their all holding rifles that appear to be very very old.

Kim may have nukes but i don't think the soldiers are anywhere near as advanced as U.S sophisticated defence systems.

Does Kim really have the balls to nuke Guam......Lets wait and see.???

The U.S. were a more sophisticated power in Vietnam too but were eventually driven out by a low tech enemy through guerrilla warfare.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Mainforcepatrol

The U.S. were a more sophisticated power in Vietnam too but were eventually driven out by a low tech enemy through guerrilla warfare.

If there is a war over there it will be more like WW2, where they didn't have one hand tied behind their back - and they wont care what some cry-baby millennial or whining baby boomer posts on social media or at CNN either.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Mainforcepatrol

The U.S. were a more sophisticated power in Vietnam too but were eventually driven out by a low tech enemy through guerrilla warfare.

Or the stalemate that was the previous Korean war.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Or the stalemate that was the previous Korean war.

Actually it is still the same war.

[MrEL]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

Actually it is still the same war.

Correct.
Its never ended. Just been a 50+ year ceasefire.

[Fed]

I haven't read anything about the missiles being 'loaded'.
The weather prediction for Guam on Tues/Wed is Easterly winds so if they did load the missiles Aust shouldn't get any fallout.
Interestingly the ground radar at Anderson Air Force Base is broken and awaiting spare parts https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=gua and coincidentally the satellite radar seems to be also broken. https://www.weather.gov/gu_sat_tab.php
I wonder if the GPS system is working in that area?

[solarite_guy]

If there is a missile defense system each unit will have it's own radar.

Additionally, if there are multiple units, they should be able to tie in together.

They have proven the ability to take an ICBM out of the sky. They might need to do it for real.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by solarite_guy

If there is a missile defense system each unit will have it's own radar.

Additionally, if there are multiple units, they should be able to tie in together.

They have proven the ability to take an ICBM out of the sky. They might need to do it for real.

I thought they had to get to ICBMs in the launch phase, otherwise they are moving to fast. In that case they will have problems due to NK neighbours and the literal fallout.

[Ross 1]

Hopefully it's all bluster between morons at the moment but I will watch it a lot closer if key people in his government start resigning. If the Secretary of Defence or head of national security go due to Trumps decisions he will bring in yes men.

[solarite_guy]

Originally Posted by Ross 1

Hopefully it's all bluster between morons at the moment but I will watch it a lot closer if key people in his government start resigning. If the Secretary of Defence or head of national security go due to Trumps decisions he will bring in yes men.

A lot of those folks are crazy too.

We went from total left wing to total right wing.

I test out dead nut center on the political compass. We need more people in the middle.

[FairmontGS]

I'm hoping that if Kim looses off his 3 or 4 ICBMs then the USA will shoot them down.

Most of the real damage is going to come from the massed NK artillery unless the US has that spotted already with Tomahawks/drones, etc.

Should be a very short war either way. SK and NK populations will be the big losers.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

I'm hoping that if Kim looses off his 3 or 4 ICBMs then the USA will shoot them down.

Most of the real damage is going to come from the massed NK artillery unless the US has that spotted already with Tomahawks/drones, etc.

Should be a very short war either way. SK and NK populations will be the big losers.

A friend in SK (who has multiple friends in the US military based there) once told me a story that there is a plan in place to wipe NK off the face of the earth if needed.

Timed to take all of 34 minutes.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

A friend in SK (who has multiple friends in the US military based there) once told me a story that there is a plan in place to wipe NK off the face of the earth if needed.

Timed to take all of 34 minutes.

Is there a plan to wipe the Middle East off the face of this earth too ? . Imagine a world without the problems of the Middle East

[snap0964]

As far as the 1953 armistice goes, representatives from China, North Korea and the UN signed it. South Korea didn't.

[Uncle_Ken]

South Park guys have it all sorted


UK

[solarite_guy]

The test the ran was a launch of a defensive missile from California to an ICBM launched from somewhere out in the Pacific. It had some height before it was taken down.

Some of the work the Israeli's have done in this area has been very helpful.

There is no real fall out, per se, if you take the missile out. Of course the is the war head that needs to be dealt with.

[solarite_guy]

Actually I found Guam has the missile defense system. They will take down any N. Korean ICBM.

[Beastie]

It's all good fella's...There's been a Hair Trade Agreement made...

[Craig@AUDI]

Originally Posted by Beastie

It's all good fella's...There's been a Hair Trade Agreement made...

BAHAHAHAHA!!!

That's GOLD!