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Old 02-10-2007, 07:28 PM   #1
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Default No More Tow Bars???

If Harold has his way.... this is the start of a new push!!

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Old 02-10-2007, 07:45 PM   #2
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I can't possibly see how they could legislate against tow bars, they are such an essential item for so many, about 40% of cars in Australia have tow bars. How can they decide wether it's essential or not.
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Old 02-10-2007, 07:51 PM   #3
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why hasnt someone stopped this oxygen thief already?
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Old 02-10-2007, 07:53 PM   #4
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Have you guys read some of the BS on this web site (pedestrian council) ?? The scary thing is , these turkeys have the ear of government.
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Old 04-10-2007, 08:34 PM   #5
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Scruby again ? If you look at any 4WD forum you'll see him mentioned there a LOT - he hates us fourby owners (sorry Harold - a prius is off road)

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Have you guys read some of the BS on this web site (pedestrian council) ?? The scary thing is , these turkeys have the ear of government.
Well, I don't think they do.
Firstly, the pedestrian council is comprised of... Harold Scruby.
Oh and he has a secretary. And a web site. And that's about it.
Who he DOES have the ear of is the press, specifically A current afair / today tonight - and we all know what standard of professional journalism they pump out ! I'm pretty sure most people in government know EXACTLY who Scruby is and why it would be electorally disastrous to support any of his hare-brained schemes.

Oh, that was cathartic. I feel better now !
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Old 04-10-2007, 08:43 PM   #6
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I agree...now if everyone who hates scruby donates $100.00 to me I will stop him from his stupidity.
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Well, I don't think they do. (have an ear to the government)

Firstly, the pedestrian council is comprised of... Harold Scruby.
Oh and he has a secretary. And a web site. And that's about it.

Oh, that was cathartic. I feel better now !

I thought he was Govt. supported.
I seem to recall he was plucked by the Govt. from Mosman Council where he was a serial pest.
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Well find for me just ONE example of any of his crackpot ideas that the government has implemented.....

They know they'd lose HEAPS of votes from most of them !
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How can someone be injured by a tow bar? The only injuries I ever seen are when I hit my shin on the tow bar getting stuff out of the boot.
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How can someone be injured by a tow bar? The only injuries I ever seen are when I hit my shin on the tow bar getting stuff out of the boot.
That will be the complaint. Notice the pics in carparks etc. Why anyone walks that close to a car they arent getting to the boot of Ill never know.

The bike rack pics are funny. How do they know the people havent just rolled up, parked, and are off riding the bikes and are coming back to use the rack again? That is what they are for.
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Not being a waterfront residing multi-millionaire, how does that moron expect I get my boat to the ramp nearest me? Push it? Get .

Anybody want to help me track this down and hurt him with my Towbar equipped Territory. Scruby needs to get a life.

For the record, I have the Heavy Duty HaymanReese 'bar, which has a hitch on it that can be taken out with the removal of a pin. I only have it on the car when I am towing.
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The bike rack pics are funny. How do they know the people havent just rolled up, parked, and are off riding the bikes and are coming back to use the rack again? That is what they are for.
Agreed. over half the pics of the cars with bike racks still have bikes on them
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Old 03-10-2007, 03:41 AM   #13
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How can someone be injured by a tow bar? The only injuries I ever seen are when I hit my shin on the tow bar getting stuff out of the boot.
I ran straight into one chasing a footy didnt even see it and cracked my shin.......one of the most painfull things ive done lol....
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Old 03-10-2007, 05:22 AM   #14
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The problem is idiots like screwbit make already stupid people dumber with the propaganda he spits out.

Look at the crap he went on with about the Typhoon. I would like to know who pays him and gave him the authority to set up a council anyway.

Whats stopping people on here setting up a car transport lobby group to counter this fruit loop.

I know we all need money to live but for sake he should go and do something constructive instead of finding ways to iritate taxed road users.
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Old 03-10-2007, 05:30 AM   #15
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Mr Scrubby needs a damn good scrubbing , me thinks . ( a wire brush comes to mind)

Most of those Pic's are of extreme situations . Anyone got 2-3 kids who like to go for a bike ride ? "Naa kids , you've got to leave your bikes at home and you can get "fat" because we're not allowed to take your bikes , it's very dangerous" .
Ever tried fitting 3 kids & 3 bikes in a car (or wagon) , Scrubly has got to be kidding !

I've had the kid's bike rack on the back of the car 100's of times , Hell , if you can't see it you need a "white cane & seeing eye dog" (no offence meant) .

I can see the point of the Ball obscuring the Number Plate , if you're not using it continuously , only " Plus " in the whole thing .
I've got a socket that fit's the ball & the Ball is on the trailer all the time (saves losing it) :

In NSW , if your plates are "faded" , they're replaced at "no charge" and you can order the same numbers , also free of charge , this happened to my Mrs a few years ago . On the RWC , it suggested replacement , that was done no dramas . ( just went to RTA & ordered them )

Where will this guy stop = No driving lights if they "protrude" from the car , No rear-vision mirrors , they "protrude" from the car , bumper over-riders , No rear wipers on wagons , No bumpers , You could keep going ====

The way it's going the old saying " Be responsible for you own Actions " will be a thing of the Past , it very nearly is .

Already a thief who breaks into "your" House , Business , Car etc. he has more right's than "you" .

Scrubby must use a glove for a condom === I'll let you take it from there ?

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I ran straight into one chasing a footy didnt even see it and cracked my shin.......one of the most painfull things ive done lol....
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Hahaha , Sorry Thor , don't want to be mean , (I know it hurts , done it myself) but you've got some "real hurting" to look forward to . Lol

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yea mate , I agree with you there . We've had our Wagon rear wiper "bent up" twice (pre tow bar) when someone caught their clothes on it , the tow bar would have kept them further away and we wouldn't have to have bought another ones . Lol

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Front mounted towbars I can understand, and the RTA have taken steps inregards to them.
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Old 02-10-2007, 08:50 PM   #18
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so that means those knives i was going to weld to my rims to pop the tires of my rival race as i drive off snickering will be illegal? damn... has he considered walking a little further away from cars? : and what the hell is that bit about demerit points for bullbars? because people who live in rural areas and 4WD enthusiast should have some sort of demerit point revoked because they would prefer to save damage to their car from a roo or tree to save those poor poor people hitting their shins because they are not watching where they are going closely enough. its a bit of "angry mother syndrome" if you ask me...
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what a crock of .... they only really hurt if you not looking while walking in car parks if anything the towbars with bikes on the back or the rack are drawing attention to it so you don,t walk into it
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Maybe I should wrap the back of my ute in bubble wrap in case some moron might bump into my heavyduty steel tray.
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Brian...you bored again...it wont happen.

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this probably came about from him smacking his shin on a towbar ... i can't believe this, i have a towbar on my vehicle, one of those Heavy Durty HaymanReese bars like Paxton does and i take it off when im not towing, but still, not everybody has that option and need there towbars!!

i only keep mine on there incase i get rear ended!!!

this will never be passed! he's dreaming!!

paxton, im with you bro ... lets hunt him down!
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some of those pics are ridiculious ... i mean seriously, who is going to walk into the back of a car with bikes on it?? and the bikes on the front of the cars, is he planing on walking out infront of traffic, and if those bikes wern't there, he wouldnt be injured??

seriously he need to get a life!
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As far as i know tow bars are already illegal if they are not in use.

How do i know? I was defected for it and had to get a RWC which they wouldnt give unless i removed the tow bar!
Vicroads concurred too.
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As far as i know tow bars are already illegal if they are not in use.

How do i know? I was defected for it and had to get a RWC which they wouldnt give unless i removed the tow bar!
Vicroads concurred too.

WHAT??????????
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As far as i know tow bars are already illegal if they are not in use.

How do i know? I was defected for it and had to get a RWC which they wouldnt give unless i removed the tow bar!
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ARE YOU SERIOUS??? that sucks!

OMFG ... i've never heard that before ... looks like i'll be getting my hands dirty before i go out tomorrow removing mine!! then put it back on for the weekend
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As far as i know tow bars are already illegal if they are not in use.

How do i know? I was defected for it and had to get a RWC which they wouldnt give unless i removed the tow bar!
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Did you have to remove the whole tow bar i.e, from the body or just the tongue cause i went for a rwc couple of weeks ago then into the pits for rego and i had mine fitted but no tongue as i removed it and no one said anything so i'm surprised you got defected for a tow bar must of been one angry copper
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As far as i know tow bars are already illegal if they are not in use.

How do i know? I was defected for it and had to get a RWC which they wouldnt give unless i removed the tow bar!
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It's true, not sure what the winge is about as they are already illegal.
The 'tongue' must be removed when not in use.
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Well , Mr Scruby didn't take long , I emailed about 7am , return email 7-36am

Here's the reply , say's absolutely Nothing ,

What do you guy's think .

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Dear Mr xxxx

Would you please provide your contact details including address and phone number/s so we can verify your bona fides and we will respond to your email.

Thanks.


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Telephone: (02) 9968-4555 - Facsimile: (02) 9968-4566 -
Email: walking@walk.com.au - Internet: www.walk.com.au
PO Box 500 - NEUTRAL BAY NSW 2089 – AUSTRALIA - ABN 18 075 106 286

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