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19-10-2008, 07:24 PM | #1 | ||
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i have a k&n panel filter on my xr8, i read that the filter oil makes the MAF dirty and result with the car rev hunting and such.
what sort of "dry" filters are out there that still work well.
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19-10-2008, 07:44 PM | #2 | |||
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19-10-2008, 07:46 PM | #3 | ||
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I use a K&N oiled filter with no dramas.
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19-10-2008, 07:49 PM | #4 | ||
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I personally wouldnt worry about it. I have had a k and n for a while and cheked out the maf, very minimal build up in my case. Not really worth the worry, the k and n do a great job 4 me.
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19-10-2008, 08:03 PM | #5 | ||
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I use K & N aswell. No problems with it as of yet.
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19-10-2008, 08:10 PM | #6 | |||
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I use a K&N and haven't had a problem, if you are worried about it try buying some MAF cleaner. That solves that problem.
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24-10-2008, 07:52 PM | #7 | |||
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24-10-2008, 08:10 PM | #8 | ||||
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24-10-2008, 10:27 PM | #9 | |||
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19-10-2008, 11:03 PM | #10 | ||
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I've got a k&n panel on my xr6, no dramas at all, far superior flow to paper ones.
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20-10-2008, 12:41 AM | #11 | ||
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K&N oil filters are fine, if they are not overoiled, however i have had a fair few Uni filters and their green rip offs causing some issued with AFMs as they cannot retain their filtration oil and clog up the AFMs, especially the hotwire type ones.
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20-10-2008, 10:45 AM | #12 | ||
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k&n panel for me, no dramas as of yet with there products
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20-10-2008, 11:02 AM | #13 | ||
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KnN panel for me too...you wont face any issues with them!
Are lukeys panel's oiled?
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24-10-2008, 02:18 PM | #14 | |||
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I have a Lukey washable filter in the wagon and it's not oiled and said nothing about oil on the box. Hasn't needed more than a blast out with some high pressure air so far. As for performance gains, it's hard to tell beyond better response as the wagon only has a XR8 type snorkle but still a stock exhaust so although the air can get in faster it can't get out any quicker.....yet. Bushbasher
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20-10-2008, 11:16 AM | #15 | ||
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K & N for me. Never used anything else
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20-10-2008, 12:06 PM | #16 | ||
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Another user of K&N here. Used them in a few cars now, never had any dramas.
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20-10-2008, 12:09 PM | #17 | ||
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I was told when I replaced the MAF on my EF that the K&N was the cause, and the supplier of the new MAF would not guarrantee the MAF if a K&N was used. THat said, I'm still using one..
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20-10-2008, 12:23 PM | #18 | ||
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K&N for me too
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20-10-2008, 12:26 PM | #19 | ||
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If it bothers anyone that much you can just go back to paper and lose a bit of flow/power/throttle response...
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28-10-2008, 11:21 AM | #20 | |||
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20-10-2008, 01:26 PM | #21 | ||
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I use a Fram oiled air filter. I was using a K&N filter for a while there, but after 3 cleans, the cotton started to degrade. And that was using the K&N recharge kit and following the instructions.
So far I've cleaned the Fram filter twice and it looks as new. Absolutley no difference in performance and economy between the K&N and Fram. I've cleaned the MAF and T/B once, and even then, there was barely anything on them.
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20-10-2008, 05:14 PM | #22 | ||
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Maybe your just putting too much oil on after you clean it? Though it is pretty hard to tell when its just right. I have a BMC Pod filter.
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20-10-2008, 07:18 PM | #23 | ||
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I have a Redline panel filter in the XR6...I put it in 3 1/2 years ago , I just blow it out with the air compressor then soak it in metho for awhile and then blow it out again and then spray a bit of lithium grease on it..... I dont know if all this does it any good but its never done it any harm..lol...Its done more than 100,000k's so maybe its time for a new one....although it still looks the same as the day I bought it.
How do you know when the filter needs replacing?
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20-10-2008, 07:20 PM | #24 | ||
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K&N all the way. Have never used anything but.
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20-10-2008, 07:26 PM | #25 | ||
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Well it's ANOTHER K&N panel filter here as well
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22-10-2008, 01:29 PM | #26 | ||
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well alot of engine re conditioners won't give a guarantee or warranty on their engines if anything other than the standard air and oil filters are used.
plus a lot of you don't realise that a k and n filter is actually illegal as it gums up the insides of throttle bodies and manifolds causing the sensors not to function properly. i did a lot of research on these and other things and the things that are illegal or require an engineers certificate is mind boggling.
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22-10-2008, 01:37 PM | #27 | ||
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i believe there only illegal if there exposed in the engine bay, in nsw mate.. but im more then happy to be proven otherwise..
had no complaints from the police here about my pod being in the oem airbox box... i use a K&N pod filter .. its so much better over the oem panel filter thats for sure...
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22-10-2008, 01:47 PM | #28 | ||||
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Many of our mods are illegal, exhausts, intakes, wheels etc etc as the rules that must be adhered to basically restrict you to a stock as factory car. As for engine "reconditioning", anyone who actually gets a reco engine needs their head read as I can't see the point in putting used parts back into a pulled down engine along side new bits.
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16-02-2009, 12:50 PM | #29 | |||
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The only thing that a K&N filter would do would be to foul up the air flow metre if it is over-oiled or not maintained properly. BMC Air Filter cleaning oil is designed to avoid this problem all together. I've also never heard of throttle body gumming up because of an air filter. The throttle position sensor is outside of the throttle body. I'm pretty confident the only legal issues involve uncovered pod filters. Just make sure your air box is still intact or you've fitted a replacement enclosed airbox system. |
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22-10-2008, 03:07 PM | #30 | ||
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Modification Code Modification A1 Engine Substitution A2 Air Cleaner Substitution or Additional Fitment A3 Turbocharger Installation A4 Exhaust System Alterations Engine as i said k&n filters are illegal. http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11218178 have a look at thread number 10.
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