Should I let her???

Outbackjack · 14-11-2006, 08:21 PM

Here is my quandry. In a very generous mood, thanks to Mr Boags, at my favourite chinese restaurant I told my 16 year daughter that when she gets her license (in 3 weeks) that I would let her drive my XR8 on our road trip to QLD in december. I said that she could drive once we got into QLD so as not to waist our (//) doing 100kph...... But now I am having second thoughts.... What should I do?? She wont let me forget about it.....

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Dazza XLT · 14-11-2006, 08:23 PM

Will your insurance cover it? And if so, how much extra will you have to pay if something happens?

Outbackjack · 14-11-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Darran

Will your insurance cover it? And if so, how much extra will you have to pay if something happens?

Yeah insurance will be OK.... I tried that one on her but it didnt work.....

b2tf · 14-11-2006, 08:27 PM

you didnt say how far you'd let her drive it.

from one end of the driveway to the other!

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kyro_02 · 14-11-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

you didnt say how far you'd let her drive it.

from one end of the driveway to the other!

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some people have long drive ways :P

MITCHAY · 14-11-2006, 08:27 PM

How confident are you in her driving? If you are then I can't see why you wouldn't.

Personally though, no one drives my car but me!

Dazza XLT · 14-11-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Outbackjack

Yeah insurance will be OK.... I tried that one on her but it didnt work.....

Tell her she can drive from the QLD border to Cammoweal. Only about 10-20klm.

The crap Beer gets you into...

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DOC · 14-11-2006, 08:24 PM

Mate, have you checked your insurance ? but theres no way id let my daughter drive my xr8 fresh out the blocks and no experience at that speed.

Falcon_Phill · 14-11-2006, 08:27 PM

Your the parent arnt you? Who cares what she says, she'll live. Some families dont even have cars.

kyro_02 · 14-11-2006, 08:27 PM

you should let her drive once you get in qld, and/or let her drive on the way back instead? that way she would have some experience slower speeds i guess? - but l's and p's drivers can't go over 110 in the NT can they? not they you would want them to !

V8R · 16-11-2006, 09:25 PM

pfft, dont be so anal. you'll be in the car with her, let her have a drive....

MO · 16-11-2006, 09:50 PM

OBJ just noticed favourite chinese restaurant...it would'nt be the Hong Kong would it..if so say g'day to Nick and family.

Outbackjack · 16-11-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MO

OBJ just noticed favourite chinese restaurant...it would'nt be the Hong Kong would it..if so say g'day to Nick and family.

Hi Ya, its the one in Bath street in the old house. Oriental gourmet or something like that. Hong Kong dont sell Jimmy Boags...... Boags and chinese food go together like a hand in a glove.

Smoke Pursuit · 14-11-2006, 08:27 PM

she will be right, providing its only for short periods of time on straight roads doing 100
just be careful with roos, tell her to never try and swerve, always take the brunt of them as its easy to lose control and frontends are cheaper the lives. No night driving either!

Trevor 57 · 14-11-2006, 08:29 PM

Yes, most certainly let her do it, but don't put her straight into a high stress situation to start with, give her some time behind the wheel beforehand.

I have worked as a driving instructor, be pro-active with your instruction, tell her what you want her to do a long way before she needs to do it, don't be re-active. Don't tell her after she should have done it.

Teach her to drive off the edge of the road with 2 wheels then to steer the car back on to the bitumen again, tell her to keep her hands firm on the wheel, then you gently grab the whell with her holding it, then gently guide the car off then back on, do this a few times till she feels comfortable, then let her do it herself, most kids get hurt/die because they haven't learnt this skill.

Build her confidence.

Outbackjack · 14-11-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Trev

Yes, most certainly let her do it, but don't put her straight into a high stress situation to start with, give her some time behind the wheel beforehand.

I have worked as a driving instructor, be pro-active with your instruction, tell her what you want her to do a long way before she needs to do it, don't be re-active. Don't tell her after she should have done it.

Teach her to drive off the edge of the road with 2 wheels then to steer the car back on to the bitumen again, tell her to keep her hands firm on the wheel, then you gently grab the whell with her holding it, then gently guide the car off then back on, do this a few times till she feels comfortable, then let her do it herself, most kids get hurt/die because they haven't learnt this skill.

Build her confidence.

Thanks Big Trev..... Good advice, I will do that....

DOC · 14-11-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Trev

but don't put her straight into a high stress situation to start with, give her some time behind the wheel beforehand.
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last time i looked a high stress was instant ( or can be, a car coming at you on the wrong side ? anything ), and theres no time to teach, it hapens or it does not, were talking about a brand new out of the blocks first time driver arn't we ?

last year down here they scraped an entire family from the road, they were doing exactly as your saying, the young girl from memory put the back wheel out in the dirt , paniced , over corrected and slammed into an oncoming semi.

all because mum n dad thought it was cool to let the daughter drive the family hot rod.

outback that is not aimed at you but is a real story, and i will stand by if it is a fresh driver more practice first, but will be your call.

bob^ · 14-11-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DOC

last year down here they scraped an entire family from the road, they were doing exactly as your saying, the young girl from memory put the back wheel out in the dirt , paniced , over corrected and slammed into an oncoming semi.

all because mum n dad thought it was cool to let the daughter drive the family hot rod.
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No offense but what a load of bull. I remember the big fuss(with regards to L platers and high powered cars) after the L plater did that in the HSV. The power of the car wouldn't come into play there. That could happen in any car.

rodderz · 14-11-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bob^

No offense but what a load of bull. I remember the big fuss(with regards to L platers and high powered cars) after the L plater did that in the HSV. The power of the car wouldn't come into play there. That could happen in any car.

I think Doc was referring to the panic of the situation, not the fact that they were in a hot rod or something with power

DOC · 14-11-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bob^

No offense but what a load of bull. I remember the big fuss(with regards to L platers and high powered cars) after the L plater did that in the HSV. The power of the car wouldn't come into play there. That could happen in any car.

No offence taken, good open debate on the forum can only be a good thing, and your right after that happened there was a lot of debate. and i also agree with it could have been any car.

i also think each car handles diferent / brakes diferent / steers diferent etc.

and the very first time in a car up the speed limits on the highway and having to find out in a hurry how it brakes / steers in an emergancy or handles normally, is just not my call for a brand new driver that has not even driven that car around the block.

Mate im no prude my daughter has driven my xr8's but i did not say to her here you go first drive and guess what we will fire it down the highway.

bob^ · 15-11-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DOC

No offence taken, good open debate on the forum can only be a good thing, and your right after that happened there was a lot of debate. and i also agree with it could have been any car.

i also think each car handles diferent / brakes diferent / steers diferent etc.

and the very first time in a car up the speed limits on the highway and having to find out in a hurry how it brakes / steers in an emergancy or handles normally, is just not my call for a brand new driver that has not even driven that car around the block.

Mate im no prude my daughter has driven my xr8's but i did not say to her here you go first drive and guess what we will fire it down the highway.

I understand what you mean now, and yes I agree. But we don't know if she had driven that car a number of times previously.
I'd be letting the daughter drive the car on some quiet roads to familiarise herself with it before you pack the family in. I know even though I had my license for 3 years when I got my BA, took a while to get used to.

Trevor 57 · 15-11-2006, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bob^

No offense but what a load of bull. I remember the big fuss(with regards to L platers and high powered cars) after the L plater did that in the HSV. The power of the car wouldn't come into play there. That could happen in any car.

Absolutely spot on Bob, in fact in my post where I refered to Outback teaching his daughter to steer off the road then back on again is in reference to what happened to that young girl (and her family), she dropped the 2 left wheels off into the gravel then over-corrected the car and it slid into the path of a small truck.

But long before this I tought heaps of kids to this, as well as my own 4 kids. They learn not to panic when and if that happens. it is a common cause of accidents with young people, not necessarily fatals, but certainly roll-overs.

Trevor 57 · 15-11-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DOC

last time i looked a high stress was instant ( or can be, a car coming at you on the wrong side ? anything ), and theres no time to teach, it hapens or it does not, were talking about a brand new out of the blocks first time driver arn't we ? . . .

. . . and i will stand by if it is a fresh driver more practice first, but will be your call.

Is that what I said, you hightlighte part of my quote go back and read the rest of the sentence.

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DOC · 15-11-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Trev

Is that what I said, you hightlighte part of my quote go back and read the rest of the sentence.

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Well i did go back and read it, and appologise up front and sincere, i did not read your comments correctly and i won't make excuses, you went on to say, to teach them properly before hand and was in line with where i was going as well, and your comments were correct, contained good advice and are helpful to all, now if i just took the time to read them properly.

GK · 17-11-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Big_Trev

Yes, most certainly let her do it, but don't put her straight into a high stress situation to start with, give her some time behind the wheel beforehand.

I have worked as a driving instructor, be pro-active with your instruction, tell her what you want her to do a long way before she needs to do it, don't be re-active. Don't tell her after she should have done it.

Teach her to drive off the edge of the road with 2 wheels then to steer the car back on to the bitumen again, tell her to keep her hands firm on the wheel, then you gently grab the whell with her holding it, then gently guide the car off then back on, do this a few times till she feels comfortable, then let her do it herself, most kids get hurt/die because they haven't learnt this skill.

Build her confidence.

Agreed Trev, let her have the drive. Great advice regarding the skills also.

But you control the parameters of the drive. It's not like she's never driven before either! She'll be fine!

Hope your trip goes well.

GK

WINDSR · 14-11-2006, 08:30 PM

I would rather let her drive it on the open road at 100kmph than in a busy city. A slow car does 100 on the open road so the XR8 makes no difference.

Outbackjack · 14-11-2006, 08:37 PM

I was thinking camoweal to Isa. The road through there is all fairly new. Mostly straight with some gentle bends and hills for variation..... She drives well but thus far has only driven our fiesta or her vitara. Traffice should be reasonably light as well. And I think that P platers are limited to 100 in QLD?? Its 110 in NT. That suits me. Maybe it would be good experience in a controlled situation. Maybe.

photn · 15-11-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Outbackjack

I was thinking camoweal to Isa. The road through there is all fairly new. Mostly straight with some gentle bends and hills for variation..... She drives well but thus far has only driven our fiesta or her vitara. Traffice should be reasonably light as well. And I think that P platers are limited to 100 in QLD?? Its 110 in NT. That suits me. Maybe it would be good experience in a controlled situation. Maybe.

Boyeah go the fiesta's.......lol.. dude i was in the same sorta position with my folks. i just got my Red p's and we where heading down south for the summer....and my folks said i could drive....they let me drivethe first 20-40 minutes of the trip (highway cruzing) that way after i got tired i just pulled over and went straight to sleep in the back. they never heard a peep out from me again lol

Uni · 15-11-2006, 11:52 AM

three cheers for reading the whole thread ;)

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Originally Posted by Outbackjack

She drives well but thus far has only driven our fiesta or her vitara.

there's only one way she's going to learn how to drive on the open road, you've made the right choice

Uni/.

JC · 16-11-2006, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Outbackjack

I was thinking camoweal to Isa. The road through there is all fairly new. Mostly straight with some gentle bends and hills for variation..... She drives well but thus far has only driven our fiesta or her vitara. Traffice should be reasonably light as well. And I think that P platers are limited to 100 in QLD?? Its 110 in NT. That suits me. Maybe it would be good experience in a controlled situation. Maybe.

For your second last sentence, I would say let her. You can't beat experience, and as you say it will be in controlled conditions. At that speed she is basically only going to be steering the thing anyway, so the fact it has 260kw makes no difference. Of course handling/braking maybe an issue, but as long as you keep your eyes open as well, you can make sure there's no need for her to have to turn and/or brake suddenly (under normal conditions).