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Old 03-07-2019, 05:42 PM   #1
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Default VFACTS June 2019

https://www.caradvice.com.au/771104/...sales-figures/

-Worst Junes sales since 2012

-Ford Numbers (7155, down 4.5 per cent, 6th place)
EcoSport - 39
Endura - 206
Escape - 335
Everest - 616
Falcon - 0
Fiesta - 0
Focus - 344
Mondeo - 51
Mustang - 369
Ranger 4x2 - 455
Ranger 4x4 - 4396
Territory - 0
Transit Custom - 238
Transit Heavy - 106

Everest seemed to have a good month as did Ranger 4x4 (Ford Ranger 4396, Toyota HiLux 3891). Mustang lead it segment.
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https://www.caradvice.com.au/771104/...sales-figures/

-Worst Junes sales since 2012

-Ford Numbers (7155, down 4.5 per cent, 6th place)
EcoSport - 39
Endura - 206
Escape - 335
Everest - 616
Falcon - 0
Fiesta - 0
Focus - 344
Mondeo - 51
Mustang - 369
Ranger 4x2 - 455
Ranger 4x4 - 4396
Territory - 0
Transit Custom - 238
Transit Heavy - 106

Everest seemed to have a good month as did Ranger 4x4 (Ford Ranger 4396, Toyota HiLux 3891). Mustang lead it segment.
Looking at those numbers though DFB, Ranger is 4396 plus 455 which is 4851 not 4396.
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Looking at those numbers though DFB, Ranger is 4396 plus 455 which is 4851 not 4396.
Where did he say 4396 was combined?
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Well, looks like my prediction that Kia would take Ford again before Ford took 3rd spot didn't take long to come to fruition, that Mitsubishi leapt them both is of interest too.
That Triton is certainly making headway, i'm seeing them everywhere.
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4851 is total Ranger sales for the month (4x4 + 4x2)
For some reason VFACTS separates 4x2 and 4x4
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Those DMAX numbers which were supposedly heading for the heavens, are going really well
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Those DMAX numbers which were supposedly heading for the heavens, are going really well
2027 units and its probably the most outdated dual cab on the market to be fair.
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2027 units and its probably the most outdated dual cab on the market to be fair.
Ironically, the older Ranger gets, the better sales seem to become....
If only we could convince Ford to go after the $23,990 tradie 4x2 Ute.

Sarcasm here but,
maybe the reason Everest did better was because high price Endura made it look better value...
Seriously, what Ford DH approves a vehicle like this for our market knowing that it's getting canned in Europe..

Until Ford sorts Ford Europe, Ford Aust, can't even get a leg into the SUV conversation.
where's our hybrid Explorer/Puma/Escape?...where's our anything?

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Ironically, the older Ranger gets, the better sales seem to become....
Still less than 12 months old though, and off a reduced RRP I believe.
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Still less than 12 months old though, and off a reduced RRP I believe.
I meant that T6 Ranger is now 8 years old, I know that's relative
with Hilux and Colorado being even older under their make up...

It's all about the need for maturity of design and market familiarity
and trust, being reliable for more than a couple of years.

A lot of the jump in sales numbers no doubt linked to EOFY
so interesting to see what pull ahead of sales happens.
The tide can go out a long way........
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Seriously, what Ford DH approves a vehicle like this for our market knowing that it's getting canned in Europe..

Until Ford sorts Ford Europe, Ford Aust, can't even get a leg into the SUV conversation.
where's our hybrid Explorer/Puma/Escape?...where's our anything?
I'm thinking the same...the only thing I can see is the dropping of Edge in UK and really any chance of a RHD model in future was a very recent decision that has caught out Ford Aust.

Maybe the 7 seat Escape will be Ok to fill the loss if it's offered here however it's a VW Tiguan Allspace size-class. The new Explorer hybrid looks like a ripper, will be available in Europe before the US but it's not RHD ...a Kluger/CX-9/SanteFe competitor but not here....(if I win Lotto I'm going to buy and rhd convert a Lincoln Aviator )

Makes me appreciate my Territory even more...

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I'm thinking the same...the only thing I can see is the dropping of Edge in UK and really any chance of a RHD model in future was a very recent decision that has caught out Ford Aust.

Maybe the 7 seat Escape will be Ok to fill the loss if it's offered here however it's a VW Tiguan Allspace size-class. The new Explorer hybrid looks like a ripper, will be available in Europe before the US but it's not RHD ...a Kluger/CX-9/SanteFe competitor but not here....(if I win Lotto I'm going to buy and rhd convert a Lincoln Aviator )

Makes me appreciate my Territory even more...
It’s a shame isn’t it ?

Bean counters taking low volume markets ( in comparison) out of product cycles.

I’ve driven an Endura Titanium it’s a nice bit of kit, but it seems it’s fate for this market is sealed.

We’ll look at the 2020 Escape next year, the only thing that could be a concern will be shoulder / hip room for the back seat with a baby seat etc.

We miss our Territory, it was just brilliant and an amazing vehicle in its time.
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Toyota HiLux - 5396
Ford Ranger - 4851
Hyundai i30 - 3343
Toyota Corolla - 2911
Mazda CX-5 - 2911
Kia Cerato - 2832
Mitsubishi Triton - 2695
Mazda 3 - 2533
Toyota RAV4 - 2449
Hyundai Tucson - 2344
Mitsubishi ASX - 2206
Holden Colorado - 2149
Nissan X-Trail - 2148
Toyota Prado - 2045
Isuzu D-Max - 2027
Subaru Forester - 2014
Honda CR-V - 1987
Mitsubishi Outlander - 1892
Honda HR-V - 1769
Mazda CX-3 - 1708
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June 2019 sales by brand:

Brand Sales Change
Toyota 21,200 -8.5%
Mazda 10,806 -13.3%
Hyundai 10,001 -4.2%
Mitsubishi 8891 -13.1%
Kia 7200 1.9%
Ford 7155 -4.5%
Honda 6232 -11.1%
Volkswagen 5793 -8.5%
Nissan 5514 -16.5%
Holden 4817 -34.8%
Subaru 4615 -6.2%
Mercedes-Benz Cars 3377 -10.4%
Isuzu Ute 2997 -8.6%
BMW 2505 -5.0%
Suzuki 1913 -5.5%
Land Rover 1218 -6.1%
Audi 1098 -45.9%
MG 1014 207.3%
Lexus 970 0.9%
Renault 880 -28.5%
Skoda 865 34.7%
LDV 803 30.4%
Volvo Car 795 23.6%
Mercedes-Benz Vans 673 -20.4%
Jeep 648 -26.7%
Porsche 456 15.4%
Peugeot 383 6.7%
MINI 301 -35.4%
Jaguar 273 -24.4%
RAM 262 >999%
Haval 186 313.3%
Great Wall 182 50.4%
Fiat Professional 102 -5.6%
Fiat 78 -31.6%
Alfa Romeo 75 -49.3%
Maserati 68 0.0%
Infiniti 62 -44.6%
Citroen 51 -40.7%
Chrysler 49 250.0%
Lamborghini 25 150.0%
Bentley 23 43.8%
Ferrari 18 -21.7%
Aston Martin 14 7.7%
McLaren 11 22.2%
Rolls-Royce 10 150.0%
Lotus 7 -30.0%
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��GM, what have you done to the big Aussie? Just barely Holden up.��
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Hilux and Ranger both outsell Holden.
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Is the Mustang steady or going down? The higher price hurting?

Still so many low K examples around so no shortages I gather.
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If Hilux and Ranger had different model designations for 2wd vss 4wd, the largest selling vehicle last month was a Ford



..........Ranger......Hilux
Total......4851........5319
2x..........455........1503
4x.........4396........3814


This would see Ranger in #1 and Hilux in #2
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Seems Triton is back to normal. Still waiting for Amarok to be the big leader.
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If Hilux and Ranger had different model designations for 2wd vss 4wd, the largest selling vehicle last month was a Ford



..........Ranger......Hilux
Total......4851........5319
2x..........455........1503
4x.........4396........3814


This would see Ranger in #1 and Hilux in #2

If Ford gave the 2WD Ranger some more Promotion, They'd knock the Thailux off It's pedestal, & stand a good chance of building some future Brand Loyalty....
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If Ford gave the 2WD Ranger some more Promotion, They'd knock the Thailux off It's pedestal, & stand a good chance of building some future Brand Loyalty....
Does it really matter though, even if Ford sold an additional 1000 4x2 Rangers and claimed the no1 spot for model sales they're still down in 5th spot, it might make for isolated bragging rights, but im sure Toyota's 3 to 1 total sales over Ford will keep them content.
Lets not forget, Fords king of the mountain accounts for 3/4 of its total sales, Toyota's Hilux accounts for a 1/4 with the Prado, Kluger, Rav4 and Corolla all featuring in the top 20 models and ahead of the next best selling Ford product.

Putting all your eggs in one basket only applies to one of the above manufacturers.
Don't get me wrong, they're good eggs in a good basket, but that's the reality of it.

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With the uncertainty of the Federal election having passed and the first rate cut by the RBA at the start of June, it seems like neither of these had any impact to lift car sales.

Holden 'winners'

Acadia - 331
Astra - 219
Colorado 4x2 - 172
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Commodore - 550
Equinox - 679
Trailblazer - 207
Trax - 682
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With the uncertainty of the Federal election having passed and the first rate cut by the RBA at the start of June, it seems like neither of these had any impact to lift car sales.

Holden 'winners'

Acadia - 331
Astra - 219
Colorado 4x2 - 172
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Commodore - 550
Equinox - 679
Trailblazer - 207
Trax - 682
It's going to take a while to recoup the $100Mn+ RHD development cost for the Acadia...
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With the uncertainty of the Federal election having passed and the first rate cut by the RBA at the start of June, it seems like neither of these had any impact to lift car sales.

Holden 'winners'

Acadia - 331
Astra - 219
Colorado 4x2 - 172
Colorado 4x4 - 1977
Commodore - 550
Equinox - 679
Trailblazer - 207
Trax - 682
Jesus, the TRAX is doing better numbers than the commodore !
So once the PSA products come out of Holden's list that will leave them what 5 models to sell? How much longer past that point can Holden itself last?
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Carmegeddon!



https://www.caradvice.com.au/778892/...loses-560-36m/

https://www.caradvice.com.au/778836/...n-restructure/

https://www.caradvice.com.au/778758/...uarterly-loss/

https://www.caradvice.com.au/778490/nissan-job-cuts/



Now the question in my mind is, is this just cyclical, or is this the beginning of a 70% decline and paradigm shift in the car industry that futurist Tony Seba suggests will happen by 2025? (As electric/battery and autonomous ridesharing destroys the automotive, fossil fuels, and distributed power industries). What a time to be alive.
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Carmegeddon!



https://www.caradvice.com.au/778892/...loses-560-36m/

https://www.caradvice.com.au/778836/...n-restructure/

https://www.caradvice.com.au/778758/...uarterly-loss/

https://www.caradvice.com.au/778490/nissan-job-cuts/



Now the question in my mind is, is this just cyclical, or is this the beginning of a 70% decline and paradigm shift in the car industry that futurist Tony Seba suggests will happen by 2025? (As electric/battery and autonomous ridesharing destroys the automotive, fossil fuels, and distributed power industries). What a time to be alive.

With two rate cuts by the RBA staring to slow the rate of house price falls, it will be interesting to see in the coming months whether Australian new car sales figures begin to improve.
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Carmegeddon!



https://www.caradvice.com.au/778892/...loses-560-36m/

https://www.caradvice.com.au/778836/...n-restructure/

https://www.caradvice.com.au/778758/...uarterly-loss/

https://www.caradvice.com.au/778490/nissan-job-cuts/


Now the question in my mind is, is this just cyclical, or is this the beginning of a 70% decline and paradigm shift in the car industry that futurist Tony Seba suggests will happen by 2025? (As electric/battery and autonomous ridesharing destroys the automotive, fossil fuels, and distributed power industries). What a time to be alive.
1. Tesla being Tesla

2. Ford one time charges to turn around Europe, mostly cuttng staff and vehicles / production that doesn't work.

3. J/LR is only impressive in an up market, they don't make enough profit to cover funding for their product cycles

4. Without Carlos Gosn, Nissan are leaderless chooks.

Six months is a long time in the car industry but while buyers still have
good paying jobs and easy financing, the industry and dealers will be OK.
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-Worst Junes sales since 2012

June 2012 sales were 112,566 versus 117,817 for this year.

https://www.fcai.com.au/news/index/i...ll/article/307
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prydey - no matter what some here think re QC of the Toys, they keep on keeping on......
Barring the diesel dpf issues that most have as well in that/those segments, they all are cheaper build quality compared to the good ol days but myself and others I know have NO other problems.......
They are still generally good white goods day to day vehicles.
I haven't had a QC issue @ 170thou k's now on mine.
Thats life as a toy driver mostly.
I'd really like to when to upgrade to a BT50 for as you say Mazda are good as well (wife has a CX5) but BT50's are a poor Ranger so I wouldn't bother but good saving in the pocket.
I think I'll go V6 Rok, for I want that power for D4's and everything in that category sucks engine wise imo.
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Mondeo at 51 is a very big % hit from the 70-80 it was doing. Restricted range is being felt in the sales.
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