Australian flag displaced by the UN flag?

[cheap]

We agreed to "our" flag being replaced by the UN flag?

United Nations Day 2014

To All Flag Marshals: Action Australia-wide

United Nations Day

24 October 2014

United Nations Day is observed in Australia on 24 October each year to commemorate the coming into force of the United Nations Charter in 1945.

As part of an agreement made by the Australian Government as a member of the United Nations, the United Nations Flag is flown in the position of honour all day on United Nations Day, displacing the Australian National Flag on that day.

If a United Nations Flag is available, it should be flown all day on Friday 24 October 2014 from all buildings and establishments occupied by Australian Government departments and affiliated agencies. If there is only one flagpole available, the United Nations Flag should be flown even if that flagpole is ordinarily reserved for flying the Australian National Flag. If two flagpoles are available, the United Nations Flag should be flown in the pre-eminent position for the day with the Australian National Flag on the second flagpole.

If a United Nations Flag is not available, normal arrangements for flying the Australian National Flag apply.

Your assistance is appreciated.

Commonwealth Flag Officer

17 October 2014

[xxx000]

I suppose you disagreed with the directive re flags at half mast yesterday too?

[cheap]

Originally Posted by xxx000

I suppose you disagreed with the directive re flags at half mast yesterday too?

If our flag were being replaced by another flag, then I would disagree.

[CoupeKing]

Has anyone on here encountered another human being that is dumber than this bloke? I feel sorry for you if you have.


http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...21-1199o6.html

[Dash_XR]

You could see what he way trying to say he just didn't articulate himself very well. He meant the flag is used as a racist tool not that the flag itself is racist.

I think he did ok considering the quality of the panel he was with.

[cheap]

Being patriotic is being racist?

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by cheap

Being patriotic is being racist?

What would your heroes Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt say ?

[cheap]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

What would your heroes Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt say ?

So I take it, that you have no problem with the Australian flag being displaced.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

What would your heroes Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt say ?

Two people who make a living spreading hatred via their tribes of ignorant followers

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by Dash_XR

You could see what he way trying to say he just didn't articulate himself very well. He meant the flag is used as a racist tool not that the flag itself is racist.

I think he did ok considering the quality of the panel he was with.

And I think he was correct. Racists often justify their behaviour by claiming to merely be patriotic.
Personally I find flags divisive and wish the world was one but diverse.

[NAK302]

Originally Posted by xxx000

And I think he was correct. Racists often justify their behaviour by claiming to merely be patriotic.
Personally I find flags divisive and wish the world was one but diverse.

wow!, just wow

[superyob]

Originally Posted by xxx000

And I think he was correct. Racists often justify their behaviour by claiming to merely be patriotic.
Personally I find flags divisive and wish the world was one but diverse.

Sorry xxx000. I cannot agree with you on this one. I like the fact that I am Australian and not any other nationality. I like the fact that we can wave our flag freely despite the best efforts of those minorities who hate Australia. I like the fact that as an Australian, I have a completely different set of priorities and values to other nations. I have no wish to belong to a one world order where I must tolerate things that I desperately despise, such as the hypocritical totalitarian demands from those who scream for tolerance...

And I like our flag...

[buggerlugs]

So this decision has come from "Your" Government ?? And answer my question....

[cheap]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

So this decision has come from "Your" Government ?? And answer my question....

From what I can research, the agreement seems to have come into effect 2011.

Since you're so desperate to bring politics into this, which government was in power in 2011?

[jpblue1000]

this is all a bit like Hulks Friday thread isn't it.

A statement is made and all jump on board to slay or obey...Like it!
This all reminds me about the gay marriage debate.
A large percentage 'Straight' people make a mess and mockery of the institution of marriage yet want to deny another 'group' else from also doing so, are they protecting marriage which they have no respect or just pushing their bias bigoted views and using marriage as a vehicle for hate.

Just like the Flag, the nationalistic fervour and views of a rising visible minority are embodied in a printed fabric symbol. The Flag is a symbol of our country, its use is synonymous with pride, respect and authority, Making is subservient to a higher order for a day is a mark of respect for that other order, its symbolic position suggests importance of the UN and raises awareness, spreads knowledge and elicits tradition. A positive outcome for a good cause I would say.
Does, has, would the Original Poster raise this topic when news arises of the Flag being used in the way the artist 360 describes in the Q and A panel. I doubt it because like preventing Gay marriage it fits with their choice or belief in world order and their way of life.
I say make our flag subservient to the UN flag for a day as a symbol of support for the many men and women of the UN who do their bit, put their lines on the line and work tirelessly to make this a better world for all!

Justin

[superyob]

Originally Posted by jpblue1000

this is all a bit like Hulks Friday thread isn't it.

A statement is made and all jump on board to slay or obey...Like it!
This all reminds me about the gay marriage debate.
A large percentage 'Straight' people make a mess and mockery of the institution of marriage yet want to deny another 'group' else from also doing so, are they protecting marriage which they have no respect or just pushing their bias bigoted views and using marriage as a vehicle for hate.

Just like the Flag, the nationalistic fervour and views of a rising visible minority are embodied in a printed fabric symbol. The Flag is a symbol of our country, its use is synonymous with pride, respect and authority, Making is subservient to a higher order for a day is a mark of respect for that other order, its symbolic position suggests importance of the UN and raises awareness, spreads knowledge and elicits tradition. A positive outcome for a good cause I would say.
Does, has, would the Original Poster raise this topic when news arises of the Flag being used in the way the artist 360 describes in the Q and A panel. I doubt it because like preventing Gay marriage it fits with their choice or belief in world order and their way of life.
I say make our flag subservient to the UN flag for a day as a symbol of support for the many men and women of the UN who do their bit, put their lines on the line and work tirelessly to make this a better world for all!

Justin

What does deviancy have to do with a flag issue?

[mcflux]

Originally Posted by cheap

which government was in power in 2011?

I don't think we'll ever know the answer to this question.

[Maka]

I think its fair to say the UN deserve a day of celebration for their services. What's all the fuss about?

cheers, Maka

[cheap]

Originally Posted by Maka

I think its fair to say the UN deserve a day of celebration for their services. What's all the fuss about?

cheers, Maka

Nothing except, we are part of the UN, as in equals, as in flags side by side.

Now I'm not sure if jpblue was stiring or if the people thanking his post were stirring or being genuine. But it kind of leaves me puzzled that anyone thinks it's ok for Australia to be subservient to the UN. That's the way his post reads to me...

I don't recall being asked if its ok to have the UN flag displace the Aussie flag, and I think we should have been asked. Maybe people need to think this through a bit more, subservient to the UN flag, giving up a little freedom here there and everywhere...

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by cheap

I don't recall being asked if its ok to have the UN flag displace the Aussie flag, and I think we should have been asked.

I don't recall being asked if it was ok to have speed cameras, or sending people to war zones but they do.

You think they should have a referendum on every single new law ??

You voted (at least I assume you did) thereby electing someone to make these decisions for you.

[Maka]

Originally Posted by cheap

Nothing except, we are part of the UN, as in equals, as in flags side by side.

Now I'm not sure if jpblue was stiring or if the people thanking his post were stirring or being genuine. But it kind of leaves me puzzled that anyone thinks it's ok for Australia to be subservient to the UN. That's the way his post reads to me...

I don't recall being asked if its ok to have the UN flag displace the Aussie flag, and I think we should have been asked. Maybe people need to think this through a bit more, subservient to the UN flag, giving up a little freedom here there and everywhere...

This symbolic flag swapping is a celebration not a little grab of Australia's sovereignty. So when QLD raises their flag on the Harbour Bridge after a State of Origin series win, is that a attack on freedom? No, its a affirmation on a job well done!

cheers, Maka

[castellan]

You never put up a flag in place of your nations flag ever.
You can have it beside it but never in place of it.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Maka

I think its fair to say the UN deserve a day of celebration for their services. What's all the fuss about?

cheers, Maka

UN deserves a celebration, for what?
Most dysfunctional indecisive organization in the world that sits back & allows people to be murdered, no better than the league of nations it replaced.

[jpblue1000]

Originally Posted by trublu

UN deserves a celebration, for what?
Most dysfunctional indecisive organization in the world that sits back & allows people to be murdered, no better than the league of nations it replaced.

Tell that to the families of the 3277 UN peace keepers that have died in the line of duty. across the world and from many countries. Including 10 Australians and 5 New Zealanders.

International peacekeeping must be a treacherously tricky forum to navigate with international law risk and opportunity to negotiate. Thankfully, at least somebody is doing it mostly unilaterally and without bias.

JP

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by jpblue1000

Tell that to the families of the 3277 UN peace keepers that have died in the line of duty. across the world and from many countries. Including 10 Australians and 5 New Zealanders.

International peacekeeping must be a treacherously tricky forum to navigate with international law risk and opportunity to negotiate. Thankfully, at least somebody is doing it mostly unilaterally and without bias.

JP

I would & they would agree, ask any soldier who has served in any UN roles, they would tell you the frustrations they faced in doing the given tasks.

[jpblue1000]

Originally Posted by trublu

I would & they would agree, ask any soldier who has served in any UN roles, they would tell you the frustrations they faced in doing the given tasks.

Ask any soldier, humanitarian or peacekeeper who sits waiting for diplomatic clearance to do their job. I am sure they are also frustrated. How long did our jet fighters and crews wait for approvals and legal proceedings before bombing isis et al.
There are bigger issues at play always than the proletariat will ever know and I for one am glad there is a unilateral force whose goal is maintaining international peace and security, promoting human rights, fostering social and economic development, protecting the environment, and providing humanitarian aid in cases of famine, natural disaster, and armed conflict.
I acknowledge the criticism on the UN and as with any organisation, movement or institute it's not perfect is open to factional distortion but it's goals are sound.
And Im yet to hear an alternate which does and could provide the unilateral support to replace the UN

JP

[Maka]

Originally Posted by trublu

UN deserves a celebration, for what?
Most dysfunctional indecisive organization in the world that sits back & allows people to be murdered, no better than the league of nations it replaced.

The UN's humanitarian efforts are just as important as their peacekeeping role ie unicef.

cheers, Maka

[BHDOGS]

A new contender for worst thread of the year and thats harsh coming from me because i post some real **** sometimes but this even blows me away.

[xxx000]

And our flag is back on the poles again so really what's the big deal?

[b2tf]

So, how bout those Fords eh?