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Old 25-10-2023, 01:05 PM   #1
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Default Weight Distribution Hitch for Ute + Car Trailer

Simple enough question.

Have found a WDH kit to suit a Falcon at a happy price. Is it really going to make a difference when pulling a loaded car trailer behind a tray back BA?
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Old 25-10-2023, 03:30 PM   #2
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Default Re: Weight Distribution Hitch for Ute + Car Trailer

Hi. It will depend on how you can load the trailer. If you can shift the load back or put some of the load in the boot of the car on the trailer so that you can keep the ball weight down to about 10% of the total load it wont be a problem if you're not overweight. Cheers MD
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Old 25-10-2023, 07:42 PM   #3
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I've used wdh before and I will use them again if need to be, yes they can make a big difference in your favour if applied correctly.
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Old 25-10-2023, 08:16 PM   #4
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Default Re: Weight Distribution Hitch for Ute + Car Trailer

From memory it’s one of the nominal requirements to max out towing capacity on the utes (and also Territories). The shared tow pig has moved to a new home and Povo Ute is my next hauling option.

Hence the question, I suppose - do I fit one loosely, just to tick that box of “Yep, it’s fitted” or is it worth applying effort to actually gain further stability with the load? The communal loan trailer is quite stable once right, but you can feel when it’s mis-laden even by a few inches fore/aft. It nearly bested me nine years ago when I’d not carefully loaded it, the recovery was one of those events that come close to a miracle.
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Default Re: Weight Distribution Hitch for Ute + Car Trailer

It's not a legal requirement so if you fit it just to tick a box it's a waste of time. Ford do recommend using one though so for me it would depend on the actual weight you are towing and the ball weight.

It will smooth out the ride. It basically just stiffens up the connection so will minimise the porpoising effect a high ball load can give.

Don't try to compensate by adding weight rearwards on the trailer. Keep the weight over and/or just forward of the axles.

A wdh is what it says on the box. Weight distribution. Takes some weight off the rear axle and transfers it to the front axle and a small amount back to the trailer axle/s. When tensioning is important not to overdo it. Only tension it so the front guard is at most only 50% returned to its unladen height.
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Default Re: Weight Distribution Hitch for Ute + Car Trailer

Still chewing over this one. Have linked a Ford brochure for the model.

http://australiancar.reviews/_pdfs/F...ons_200410.pdf

By my reading of this (P.3, “Vehicle Masses”) I have a GCM of 4245kg for my ute, unless a WDH is fitted, which then adds a further 630kg.

Obviously, that would be working a 20 year old ute pretty hard! What I’m mostly looking at, is ensuring that my towing is nominally compliant and therefore not voiding insurance. Likely errands include taking any of the project cars around the traps for glazing, welding or straightening; resulting ATMs should fall below that “2300kg” figure cited by Ford when using a WDH.

That said, it would look odd to see a Falcon ute towing another Falcon ute on a trailer.
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Still chewing over this one. Have linked a Ford brochure for the model.

http://australiancar.reviews/_pdfs/F...ons_200410.pdf

By my reading of this (P.3, “Vehicle Masses”) I have a GCM of 4245kg for my ute, unless a WDH is fitted, which then adds a further 630kg.

Obviously, that would be working a 20 year old ute pretty hard! What I’m mostly looking at, is ensuring that my towing is nominally compliant and therefore not voiding insurance. Likely errands include taking any of the project cars around the traps for glazing, welding or straightening; resulting ATMs should fall below that “2300kg” figure cited by Ford when using a WDH.

That said, it would look odd to see a Falcon ute towing another Falcon ute on a trailer.
The 2.3t kit is a different towbar to the std 1.6t towbar. It's not the 1.6t bar plus wdh = 2.3t. WDH is not compatible with the 1.6t tow bar.

Not sure if that's what you meant but just to clear that up.

Many car carrying trailers are up around 700kg which does limit the payload somewhat.
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