Shortage of truck drivers in Australia?

[Franco Cozzo]

Part One:

Has the view of “without truck drivers, Australia stops” lost its impact on everyday Australians? Apparently so, according to Volvo Group Australia. The manufacturer of heavy vehicles in Australia, along with many of manufacturers and businesses, are noticing a looming problem with professional truck drivers. There simply isn’t enough of them.

Volvo Group Australia, along with advertising agency Clemenger BBDO, has conducted qualitative and quantitative research into the availability of professional truck drivers, surveying nearly 600 industry representatives, who collectively employ 34,000 truck drivers across Australia. The data from the report: Professional Truck Driver Shortage: How driver availability impacts the transport industry & Australian society is enlightening and highlights the very real problem of society’s negative perception of the trucking industry, along with the urgency to engage young people to take up the trade.

Increasing demand + fewer drivers = Australia stops moving forward

Those of us in the trucking and heavy transport trailer industry understand the increasing demands of road freight transport and its relation to the growth, prosperity and welfare of Australia. As a large country with a dispersed population, it’s only natural that we would heavily rely on our road systems for non-bulk domestic freight. In fact, around 75% of freight is transported throughout major hubs, growing regional areas, rural and remote communities.

The demand for freight services is only set to increase as societies attitude to the instantaneous, flexible and straightforward delivery of local and international products increases. Despite the demand reliance on road freight transport, the industry is suffering from severe driver shortages, as well as a diversity and image problem.

The industry sample of Australian truck drivers

The report states that the industry will need to increase by 150% to keep up with pressures and the loss of retiring drivers. Currently, the average age of a truck driver is 47, only 15% are under 30 and only 24% of the companies surveyed employed a female truck driver.
Where are all the drivers?

46% of all business owners surveyed are experiencing a driver shortage right now. It was quickly identified that not only is it difficult to get more drivers, but also find quality drivers. In fact, 82% of them are experiencing issues in attracting the quality of drivers expected.

Given that there is no set course typically travelled to gain employment in truck driving, attracting young school leavers has proven a challenging task, especially as many of them cannot start driving trucks until they are 25. Many respondents agreed with this issue, with one saying, “it is hard to bring young drivers into a business now and bring them up through the ranks because most trucking companies no longer have small trucks which are where young drivers normally start their career.”

On this, it was suggested that transitional jobs, particularly in mechanics, involve training to help bridge the gap between truck driving and easing restrictions on insurance and excess limits could increase hiring opportunities.

Other issues raised by respondents commented on the lack of diversity as a wide-spread systemic issue as well as the long working hours, physicality or the job, and outdated perceptions of truck drivers in Australia.

In our second part, we’ll look at the issue of driver image and solutions for the future including initiatives the Volvo Group is hoping to implement.

The Drake Group fully support Australian truck drivers and operators of heavy equipment trailers in their plight to encourage more drivers into the industry. As manufacturers of heavy transport trailers, we understand the importance of education and training of a diverse work group and have on-site apprenticeships in place to empower innovative workers of the future. To learn more about our heavy haulage trailers, check out our range or get in contact with us today.

Part Two:

Welcome to part two in our series on Volvo Group Australia’s report on the availability of professional truck drivers and how driver availability impacts the transport industry and Australian society.

As manufacturers of heavy equipment trailers, we understand first-hand that without trucks, Australia stops. It’s now more important than ever to address the shortage of professional truck drivers and create initiatives to engage a diverse driver workforce wishing to enter the progressive and dynamic trucking industry.

In case you missed it, part one in this series looked at how increasing demand and less drivers will stop Australia moving forward and looked at the current sample of Australian truck drivers.

In this article, we’ll be diving into the research report conducted by Volvo Group Australia and Clemenger BBDO on the reasons why driver image is such an issue in Australia and the initiatives to encourage new drivers into the industry.

Driver image

Even though blue singlets are no longer the norm and transport operators and drivers are amongst the hardest working, professionals in Australia, the public’s perception remains outdated, basing their opinion on old behaviours. The negative stigmas of old are not reflective of the trucking industry today.

Approximately 88% of respondents believe there is a negative image of truck drivers in Australia, with 72% of them experiencing frustration with those outside the transportation industry. The overall feeling from those in the trucking industry is that mainstream media contributes to the negative image of truck drivers through cherry-picked and sensationalised stories.

“Everyone thinks truck drivers are cowboys and are unsafe on the roads” and “most Drivers have changed into professionals embracing new modern trucks” are just two of the hundreds of sentiments conveyed by industry professionals.

It’s a troubling image for all those who work in the industry as it contributes to an environment where employees feel a sense of shame about their type of work. Some of the accounts from workers supported this theory saying things such as “I am ridiculed or told that ‘you are better than that, re-educate” or “I have felt that you are looked at in a different way once you tell people what you do.”

Many believe that a thorough large-scale public campaign could educate the Australian public. It should highlight the key areas:

• How drivers of passenger vehicles can drive around trucks – be safe but not afraid
• How heavily we rely on trucks for our consumer and survival goods – from food to clothes
• The role trucking plays in the Australian economy
• A look into the statistics and a realistic view of the industry

Industry initiatives

The industry is keen to be recognised for its importance to the Australian economy, attract new drivers, better the safety and shift perceptions of the industry. Their solutions are focused at the government, industry and media.
Industry

• In-depth driver training, both through external learning programs and on-the-job training which is consistent with industry standard
• Driver empowerment and accountability
• Apprenticeship programs for school leavers
• Raise the profile of driving as a long-term career
• Prioritise pride in image through uniforms, aesthetic of trucks and recognising workers with public recognition
• Improving the work/life balance to attract a diverse workforce and offer hourly rates

The Government

• Reflection of current policies to identify better ways to support positive driver image and young entrants to the industry
• Consideration of reduction in red tape to allow for career flexibility for all drivers

The Media

• Encourage good news stories
• Discourage lazy journalism by engaging with the media on current statistics and industry insight

Investment in this arena will ensure Australia keeps moving forward. If your heavy transport trailers have seen better days, perhaps it’s time for an upgrade. Get in contact with The Drake Group today to learn about how our heavy equipment trailers can keep your business moving in the right direction.

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Interesting dilemma, something I've noticed is that there is no real entry path into the industry as a newcomer, its not like you do a 'professional driving' apprenticeship where you can be mentored into a company from the start and work your way upwards.

Another thing about the skills shortage is there upwards pressure on the wages? I see a lot of sub continental drivers behind the wheel on a daily basis driving all the smaller stuff around metro, I doubt they're on decent coin.

I'm on the skills shortage list as an auto electrician and had my customers try coax me back to the tools as they're struggling to get guys to do the work but they're offering me less or the same as what I get now in an air conditioned office driving a desk, there's a shortage but the wages aren't going up to match and the apprenticeship dropout rate is over 50%

Would you be a truck driver if there was an easier path in? Could be a good career for a young person sans relationship and university degree if the wages were there.

Seems like LOTS of responsibility but without the wages to match, I'm not surprised no one aside from the league of extraordinary sub continentals sans personal hygiene are taking up the challenge.

Those of you who are truck drivers (or former truck drivers - Rogosaurus, looking at you ya old bastard), whats your thoughts?

The NY Times also did an interesting article a few years ago about truck drivers in the USA being disenfranchised:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/u...king-jobs.html

[danzvtil]

Why would you take the responsibility and stupid hours away from your family?
You’ve got your customers forever wanting to pay you less for greater productivity, then the coppers will drag you over the coals for log book/breaks. Added to the fact your name is on the side of the truck, and your every move is recorded and uploaded to dashcams Australia the second you make a mistake.

[marty351]

With that in consideration, $50/hr would be a positive starting point. Any less it's not worth getting out of bed .

[Trevor 57]

Transport is stupidly cut-throat, it has always been a race to the bottom price wise. I have involved in the industry since mid 1976, not so much these days, but up until about 6 years ago.

Before I continue, it is important to understand that only about 15% of all freight goes interstate, most travels around intrastate (within the State), people tend to focus on interstate trucking but it really is a very small part of the industry.

While they continue to put drivers way down the line over profits, sparkiling trucks, tyres, fuel, etc then they are going to continue to have issues getting good people

As has already been said, why would you give up 10 -14hours per day for a poor hourly rate, or worse 'trip money' of kilometre rate' (I will talk about the issues around trip and kilometre rate in a moment), the chance of being punished by the enforcement people. How many workers of other industries are chased down the road for doing their job by the Police? Some drives need a smack but not all.

There is also a lot of very shonky transport bosses out there as well

Now, on to trip money and kilometre rate. All that does is encourage law breaking, it encourages drivers to keep the vehicle moving to make money. With trip money, you are rewarded for getting there and getting back as fast as you can. With kilometre rate you are rewarded for not stopping, the more the wheels are turning the more money can be made

So much more to say, but that will do

[Trevor 57]

One of the best things that has happened for drivers has been the introduction and enforcement of the 'Chain of Responsibility' legislation. Mind you it has been in place in Victoria since 2004 with virtually no enforcement up to recently when the enforcement went national with the introduction of the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator (NHVR)

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

One of the best things that has happened for drivers has been the introduction and enforcement of the 'Chain of Responsibility' legislation. Mind you it has been in place in Victoria since 2004 with virtually no enforcement up to recently when the enforcement went national with the introduction of the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator (NHVR)

What's your opinion on the NHVR - are they a toothless tiger?

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

One of the best things that has happened for drivers has been the introduction and enforcement of the 'Chain of Responsibility' legislation. Mind you it has been in place in Victoria since 2004 with virtually no enforcement up to recently when the enforcement went national with the introduction of the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator (NHVR)

Yeah, im not so sure Trev, I think its contributed to the issue personally as many drivers are looking elsewhere or given the flick due to the pressure from both sides.
I know when it came in to force for passenger transport in SA a little over 12 months ago we had one of the head honch's come around and tell us how its a positive for us drivers and will clean up the industry, I put my hand up and said all this will do is put pressure on drivers to either sign off to say everything's ok and take the punt that they don't get scrutinised or have something unforeseen arise which draws attention or face the sack from ****ed off employers who cant or wont fix things which are non compliant.
After the meeting I caught him having a private convo with the boss whereby he said, and I quote "this will help you sleep at night now, if they get caught out on the road with non compliance it falls on them and not you"
I walked around the corner and said "Is that right mate" he just froze with a guilty as sin look on his face.

We we're given pre check forms which we we're required to fill out to say the vehicle we we're to drive was compliant, one of our drivers noted a cracked windscreen on the first day it came in to play and got a nasty phone call from the boss saying it was bringing the company into disrepute which left the driver in tears.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't, so why would you bother....but the management is now safe to sleep at night.

I had an experience many moons ago whereby our forky put a pallet of boxed wine bottles on my tautliner by itself, he put it on one side of the tray, I said either centre it or put an empty stack next to it to prevent it going over.
He went and whinged to the depot manager that I was telling him how to do his job, she came out all gung ho telling me to take it or **** off so I did, sure enough it went over but thankfully the shrink wrap kept it intact and let it fall slowly, so when I got to the destination the forky that end and I stood it up and all was good, when I got back to the depot the forky asked how I went, I said it fell over, he went straight in and told the manager it had fallen over, she came out and abused **** out of me because the freight was damaged, I said but I told you it would happen, she said COR, its on you not to leave if you're not happy with it.

COR is nothing more than buck passing in order to protect those on the step above.

[marty351]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Yeah, im not so sure Trev, I think its contributed to the issue personally as many drivers are looking elsewhere or given the flick due to the pressure from both sides.
I know when it came in to force for passenger transport in SA a little over 12 months ago we had one of the head honch's come around and tell us how its a positive for us drivers and will clean up the industry, I put my hand up and said all this will do is put pressure on drivers to either sign off to say everything's ok and take the punt that they don't get scrutinised or have something unforeseen arise which draws attention or face the sack from ****ed off employers who cant or wont fix things which are non compliant.
After the meeting I caught him having a private convo with the boss whereby he said, and I quote "this will help you sleep at night now, if they get caught out on the road with non compliance it falls on them and not you"
I walked around the corner and said "Is that right mate" he just froze with a guilty as sin look on his face.

We we're given pre check forms which we we're required to fill out to say the vehicle we we're to drive was compliant, one of our drivers noted a cracked windscreen on the first day it came in to play and got a nasty phone call from the boss saying it was bringing the company into disrepute which left the driver in tears.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't, so why would you bother....but the management is now safe to sleep at night.

I had an experience many moons ago whereby our forky put a pallet of boxed wine bottles on my tautliner by itself, he put it on one side of the tray, I said either centre it or put an empty stack next to it to prevent it going over.
He went and whinged to the depot manager that I was telling him how to do his job, she came out all gung ho telling me to take it or **** off so I did, sure enough it went over but thankfully the shrink wrap kept it intact and let it fall slowly, so when I got to the destination the forky that end and I stood it up and all was good, when I got back to the depot the forky asked how I went, I said it fell over, he went straight in and told the manager it had fallen over, she came out and abused **** out of me because the freight was damaged, I said but I told you it would happen, she said COR, its on you not to leave if you're not happy with it.

COR is nothing more than buck passing in order to protect those on the step above.

Bent, what would happen if you called worksafe? I see this as a safety issue on so many levels.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by marty351

Bent, what would happen if you called worksafe? I see this as a safety issue on so many levels.

The work load would suddenly thin out and casual employee's would be no longer needed.
I've seen around a dozen drivers if not more come and go in the 20 months I've been with them.
Don't get me wrong they're nice people and im happy to work for them, but that doesn't change the fact that they're hiding behind COR legislation to avoid prosecution whilst leaving the threat of redundancy over the heads of anyone who dares to upset the apple cart and that my friend is a snap shot of what is going on within the industry and who you see more and more 'new Australian's' behind the wheel of those heavy vehicles beside and behind you in traffic.

Im actually one of the lucky ones to be honest Although I regularly drive the oldest and highest km vehicle in the fleet, im probably the only one who doesn't need to flag issues on my checks ro ever go In need of mechanical repairs and I put that down to the mechanical sympathy that I treat my vehicle with and that comes about because im a 'car guy' and treat it how i'd treat my own, whereas, to many drivers who go from one to another on a regular basis, its just another day for another dollar.
I do it because I love being behind the wheel, the money is a bonus.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

The work load would suddenly thin out and casual employee's would be no longer needed.
I've seen around a dozen drivers if not more come and go in the 20 months I've been with them.
Don't get me wrong they're nice people and im happy to work for them, but that doesn't change the fact that they're hiding behind COR legislation to avoid prosecution whilst leaving the threat of redundancy over the heads of anyone who dares to upset the apple cart and that my friend is a snap shot of what is going on within the industry and who you see more and more 'new Australian's' behind the wheel of those heavy vehicles beside and behind you in traffic.

Im actually one of the lucky ones to be honest Although I regularly drive the oldest and highest km vehicle in the fleet, im probably the only one who doesn't need to flag issues on my checks ro ever go In need of mechanical repairs and I put that down to the mechanical sympathy that I treat my vehicle with and that comes about because im a 'car guy' and treat it how i'd treat my own, whereas, to many drivers who go from one to another on a regular basis, its just another day for another dollar.
I do it because I love being behind the wheel, the money is a bonus.

I am not sure you fully understand the CoR legislation, it is about holding people OTHER than the driver accountable. For years the driver has got it in the neck when the authorities knew there were problems further up the chain, not just fleet owners but receivers and consignors of goods as well. I remember sitting in line for 6 hours at Safeway Broadmeadows then trying to fiddle the log book to get home. If I didn't get the juggle right then it is me who would have got it, now they can zoom straight in at the receiver and make them get their end right

Over-loading is also a CoR problem now too, if the consignor loads trucks too heavy or incorrectly then it becomes their problem

Consignors now have a roll in ensuring drivers are not fatigued, if the forkie believes the driver is fatigued they are required to report it to the management who will then deal with it

Dimensions also fit in with CoR legislation, wide, long loads etc

And so does load restraint, it is up to the boss to ensure that the driver has all the right gear for restraining the load, the consignor has a roll to ensure the driver actually restrains the load according to the 'Load Restraint Guide', this book is now enshrined in legislation

So, there may be bosses who think this legislation will protect them, when in fact is actually exposes them. The Authorities are not stupid, they know where most of the problems are.

I used to teach CoR to local businesses, I full understand it

[Trevor 57]

All State based enforcement people including Vicroads employees with the magenta lights work under the National body now, so no, they are not a toothless tiger

[roKWiz]

I like owning and playing with trucks but would never want to be a full time driver.
I admire the guy and gals that do though. Tough job.
I'm happily in a career that has no real opposition, take a break when ever I want to and work the hours I want around the country.

[guzzis3]

I did an apprenticeship as a mechanic and left as soon as I had my licence. Lousy wages and working conditions. Now there are so few labor charges are going up rapidly and hopefully some of it is filtering through.

That's a market economy working. Hopefully it'll happen for truckies. They have been treated like rubbish for decades.

Unfortunately what often happens these days is they drop standards rather than increase wages. You already have dangerous people driving some trucks and I think that will get worse.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Those of you who are truck drivers (or former truck drivers - Rogosaurus, looking at you ya old bastard), whats your thoughts?

[Citroënbender]

One part of me says the HC/MC drivers are underpaid.

Then I look at the tipper-and-dog drivers in Sydney who often do well (based on the gap between tipping costs and what they charge) but seem to get themselves in hock up to the neck - leading to problems that could have been avoided if not in such an indecent rush.

It could just be, the modern culture of rushing darned near everything and not worrying about the “fiddly bits on the edge” which is bringing on much of the issue with truck driving.

[Ben73]

When I think about it I think it would be great to drive around the country seeing all the sights, listening to music, podcasts, audiobooks.

In reality you probably drive in boring places more often than scenic places, the hours are probably horrible and the pay isn't great especially if you're not getting paid to sit in a line to load/unload.

I'll just stay on the railway. Easier work and probably paid more than most truckers. It's pretty boring though.

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

One part of me says the HC/MC drivers are underpaid.

Then I look at the tipper-and-dog drivers in Sydney who often do well

Probably because they drive at 110% all day every day.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

The good die young I guess,

We've got you for the next 250 years

I'd consider giving it a go given I've got no family holding me back from being away from home 24/7 and no qualms about sleeping in the truck on the side of the road.

But by the time you pay thousands for the licensing, the responsibilities you have, the crappy wages and being treated like a pleb, I'm better off getting treated like a pleb and getting paid more to drive my desk in Melbourne instead.

The trick is finding the desk that pays even more

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The good die young I guess,

We've got you for the next 250 years

I'd consider giving it a go given I've got no family holding me back from being away from home 24/7 and no qualms about sleeping in the truck on the side of the road.

But by the time you pay thousands for the licensing, the responsibilities you have, the crappy wages and being treated like a pleb, I'm better off getting treated like a pleb and getting paid more to drive my desk in Melbourne instead.

The trick is finding the desk that pays even more

It won’t hurt having a go. Something to always fall back on if you ever need to. You might like it enough to make a career out of it.
Granted you won’t walk straight into an MC interstate job.
There is no barrier for someone to sit their heavy licences through a driving school and apply for one of the thousands of MR/HR jobs on offer. Progression doesn’t take long. It doesn’t take long to learn the ropes and the job is as hard as you make it.

When I was building a house I went living in a truck for 12 months to avoid finding somewhere to live with strangers, pay through the nose for my own rental, or live with family.
When I was saving for my first property around ten years ago I was living in a truck and had no real expenses.
A lot if not most truck drivers I deal with are negative, and extremely precious. Think of petulant teenage girls.
I’ve since gone back into a truck workshop and deal with them every day.


As for the skills shortage, this effects all essential services/trades/professions doesn’t it.
Health and education sectors, automotive and engineering, building and construction, commercial pilots, paramedics etc.
This despite population growth of around 50k pa.
This is exacerbated in the trades due to unreliable tradesmen and poor or incompetent workmanship.

On the other hand there seems to be plenty of baristas, artists, cafe and bar staff, illiterate bias journalists presenting their opinion as opposed to facts, tax sucking troughers contracted or employed by local and central governments to study and promote climate change, anything ‘ist’ or phobic, finding ways to increase red tape for job security and further job creation for the unproductive.

Why do the sectors facing skills shortages need to fill jobs that are physical and involve long hours, or require years of training and constant upskill... Are a lot of people coming into the workforce over the past twenty or so years afraid of hard work and prefer to take the easy option?

That survey reads that the industry needs to cut down their hours to improve work/life balance. No doubt they expect drivers to be paid extra to compensate. They’ll be the first to complain of extra costs to the end user when more trucks and drivers are needed to alleviate the original drivers so the same amount of freight can be moved.

[Franco Cozzo]

Something that amazes me is how low freight costs are - it's obviously unsustainable.

It only cost me like $35 to have something over 20kg picked up from 75km away and delivered via a truck.

Or with Startrack Express it's $15+ GST to send something up to 5KG nationally by air freight.

It gets picked up, put on a plane, then picked up at the opposite end and delivered for $16.50 including the Government's cut.

[Franco Cozzo]

With the skills shortage I finished year 12 in 2009, there were only 10 of us out of the 140 who went the whole 9 yards at high school went onto trades, everyone else did university.

One of my colleagues has a masters and is only getting about $10K/year more than me, I'm doing alright for a bloke with the education of a cheese sandwich, I've only got a few TAFE certs and a year 12 pass.

Unfortunately parents and careers advisers at school keep pushing kids into further education rather than considering trades.

[71cop]

This is not a recent problem.

[Trevor 57]

CoR is not new, it has been around since 2004, it is now that the NHVR are around that they are policing it

Your boss and his mate might think they are OK, but I can guarantee they aren't. It will catch up with them at some point, it is a real focus of enforcement. They know there are systemic issue in the industry that a driver has no control over - hence the CoR legislation. It is not just one piece of legislation, it is a number but grouped under CoR

I can tell you there are plenty of people out there who give really bad advice, from enforcement through to business reps - they don't always get it right, if it is not their core business they will get it wrong

I can't see how it would cover a bosses ****, I have read the legislation many times and it surely focus up the line not down

Yes, some drivers will not do the right thing and they will cop it, but there are heaps of bosses who don't either and they are exposed

[Trevor 57]

Have a read - see the 'responsible person' bit

https://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/Usin...nsibility.aspx

[BENT_8]

It only catches up with them if and when something goes wrong and it can be proven that a driver was put under pressure to accept responsibility Trev, until then it's a ticking time bomb.

[Trevor 57]

it is not that hard to find when bosses do that

[Trevor 57]

A couple of years ago I delivered some training to one of the larger transport businesses around here for them to get BFM. When the drivers arrived many of them were up in arms about the bosses 'making' them do 14 hour day. My first question was 'how many of you run a legal driver diary', not many was the response, they generally run out of hours. I then told them that the boss was trying to make them legal, actually covering their *** for them. Instead of lying to fit their day in in 12 hours they can now do 14 without lying in the driver diary - there are good bosses out there

[Trevor 57]

here we go

https://www.bigrigs.com.au/news/hotl...-new-/3939090/

https://www.bigrigs.com.au/news/nhvr...gy-re/3946764/

[Trevor 57]

another list of prosecutions, this time from NHVR themselves - plenty of drivers and plenty of others as well

https://www.nhvr.gov.au/law-policies/court-outcomes

[BENT_8]

Ok, now I have a little more time I'll elaborate.
NHV laws we're introduced to passenger transport in SA on 1/10/18 I believe, so whilst it may have been around for a lot longer, it's only new to this section of the heavy vehicle industry.
I'll give you an example of how the system should work and why it doesn't.
I began driving passenger transport prior to the introduction of the legislation, I noted on my first day that the ABS light on the dash was illuminated and discussed it firstly with the person who had been driving it and then with our mechanic and was told it was a sensor and not to worry about it.
Fast forward a month and its due it's 12 monthly inspection which it fails due to the ABS problem.
The vehicle is returned to the depot at which time I'm grilled for not letting anyone know, I then explained that it had been illuminated since before I began driving it and called on the former driver who occurred.
When I arrived later that afternoon the mechanic came over with a big grin on his face saying he'd fixed the problem, I turned the ignition on and no light came on, now to average Joe it would appear that he did infact fix it, but being vehicle savvy I knew straight away that all he'd done is removed the globe as it should illuminate on ignition to prove it's working and extinguish once started.
I said this to him and he snarled and stormed off, the vehicle was Re- booked for inspection and passed...
A few weeks later I found myself in a situation where I needed to brake heavily in the wet, the rear end locked immediately and I slid whilst pumping the peddle for a good 50m luckily avoiding the obstacle, the ABS didn't work at all.
Soon after that the legislation was introduced and that vehicle has been getting around with faulty brakes whilst being signed off as compliant for approximately 18 months and has even been through a second inspection.

The industry is cut throat and whilst legislation is put in place with good intentions it can only work if the person on the bottom rung of the ladder, the driver, feels comfortable and secure enough in his job with support from those up the chain that any issues will be managed appropriately.

Now I understand why you defend it so strongly if you we're required to preach it to business, but from someone on the other end of the chain at the coal face it is a very different story and again, I doubt I'm a pioneer on the subject.

[tbro4123]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Ok, now I have a little more time I'll elaborate.
NHV laws we're introduced to passenger transport in SA on 1/10/18 I believe, so whilst it may have been around for a lot longer, it's only new to this section of the heavy vehicle industry.
I'll give you an example of how the system should work and why it doesn't.
I began driving passenger transport prior to the introduction of the legislation, I noted on my first day that the ABS light on the dash was illuminated and discussed it firstly with the person who had been driving it and then with our mechanic and was told it was a sensor and not to worry about it.
Fast forward a month and its due it's 12 monthly inspection which it fails due to the ABS problem.
The vehicle is returned to the depot at which time I'm grilled for not letting anyone know, I then explained that it had been illuminated since before I began driving it and called on the former driver who occurred.
When I arrived later that afternoon the mechanic came over with a big grin on his face saying he'd fixed the problem, I turned the ignition on and no light came on, now to average Joe it would appear that he did infact fix it, but being vehicle savvy I knew straight away that all he'd done is removed the globe as it should illuminate on ignition to prove it's working and extinguish once started.
I said this to him and he snarled and stormed off, the vehicle was Re- booked for inspection and passed...
A few weeks later I found myself in a situation where I needed to brake heavily in the wet, the rear end locked immediately and I slid whilst pumping the peddle for a good 50m luckily avoiding the obstacle, the ABS didn't work at all.
Soon after that the legislation was introduced and that vehicle has been getting around with faulty brakes whilst being signed off as compliant for approximately 18 months and has even been through a second inspection.

The industry is cut throat and whilst legislation is put in place with good intentions it can only work if the person on the bottom rung of the ladder, the driver, feels comfortable and secure enough in his job with support from those up the chain that any issues will be managed appropriately.

Now I understand why you defend it so strongly if you we're required to preach it to business, but from someone on the other end of the chain at the coal face it is a very different story and again, I doubt I'm a pioneer on the subject.

I'm going to ask one question, did you fill out a defect report and report it to operations, if not why not? Bus operators have been required to have defect books and pre start check list since the 90"s

Not trying to be a smart ****, but I run all the workshops for a multi-state bus group and its my job to among others to make sure that ANY and ALL defects are reported and recorded and that my workshop staff repair all defects that involve any safety issues before that vehicle can leave the depot. Doing it this way protects Clients (our passengers feral or not)the drivers and mechanics and the company from having faulty vehicles on the road leaving us liable.

Based in QLD our coaches,school buses and urbans all get inspected every 6 months by QLD Transport (over the pits) every 6 to 12 months we get a transport NHVR audit which includes paperwork, service intervals etc etc. Also having government contracts (Translink in QLD) also means more scrutiny from big brother.

Our MD has this idea that to run a successful company you need to worry about 3 things 1/ SAFETY 2/ Reliability 3/ Cost. I do my job properly and make sure the first 2 are covered the final one is assured.

Anyway I hope BENT 8 that your company has pulled their head out of their bums and are doing the right thing, and if you want a job in QLD give me a yell.

Stay safe

Terry aka Tbro