Chrysler 300C

EfiJy · 03-11-2005, 01:50 PM

impressive considering its only an ohv and 5.7l..."The V8 makes 250 kW and a prodigious 525 Nm of torque"

it has to haul around 1873kg too.

article: drive.com.au

parawolf · 03-11-2005, 01:58 PM

how is 250kW out of a 5.7L impressive? Also how is 525Nm "prodigious"? Yes it is more than a standard BOSS engine, but the BOSS is a smaller capacity. Plus it is only 5% more torque than a BOSS260 which registers at 500Nm.

Sorry - really not all that impressed by the engine, or the exterior design of this vehicle.

Danny · 03-11-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by parawolf

how is 250kW out of a 5.7L impressive? Also how is 525Nm "prodigious"? Yes it is more than a standard BOSS engine, but the BOSS is a smaller capacity. Plus it is only 5% more torque than a BOSS260 which registers at 500Nm.

Sorry - really not all that impressed by the engine, or the exterior design of this vehicle.

Jesus, People here need to stop being so touchy about absolute C R A P!
Parawolf, I respect ya and that mate, but he was new only one post, Give the poor Bstard a chance before you go shooting him down for what he's contributed (quite appropriately I might say) to the forum.

Welcome anyways to the newcomer! Enjoy Ford Forums AU.

4.9 EF Futura · 03-11-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Jesus, People here need to stop being so touchy about absolute C R A P!
Parawolf, I respect ya and that mate, but he was new only one post, Give the poor Bstard a chance before you go shooting him down for what he's contributed (quite appropriately I might say) to the forum.

^ what he said.

I thought the pricing was pretty reasonable, there was an ad for them in today's advertiser (although somewhat shadowed by the 1/2 page colour pic of the F6).

I'm not terribly impressed by the look of the thing. Although i guess it's fair to say it's very "chrysler"!!!

I'm sure the engine is an absolute joy to operate.

Steffo · 03-11-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by parawolf

how is 250kW out of a 5.7L impressive? Also how is 525Nm "prodigious"? Yes it is more than a standard BOSS engine, but the BOSS is a smaller capacity. Plus it is only 5% more torque than a BOSS260 which registers at 500Nm.

Sorry - really not all that impressed by the engine, or the exterior design of this vehicle.

You know the thing is Fairlane sized? So what has Ford got to compete with that? G220... 220kW 470Nm. Oh, well, BF has 230kW 500Nm.

And its cheaper then the Fairlane G8 if I'm not mistaken.

I like the 300C alot, it is a very cool car. I was actually hoping that DaimlerChrysler would shut down Mitsubishi Australia and build those in the plant's instead... keeps all the jobs and its a 1 billion times better car.

I wonder if the SRT-8 will make it here...

parawolf · 03-11-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

You know the thing is Fairlane sized? So what has Ford got to compete with that? G220... 220kW 470Nm. Oh, well, BF has 230kW 500Nm.

And its cheaper then the Fairlane G8 if I'm not mistaken.

I like the 300C alot, it is a very cool car. I was actually hoping that DaimlerChrysler would shut down Mitsubishi Australia and build those in the plant's instead... keeps all the jobs and its a 1 billion times better car.

I wonder if the SRT-8 will make it here...

cheaper on RRP than a G8. However the discounts that you get for wanting to buy a G8 are astonishing. Far more than you could get on this car.

Besides, 300C i reckon is ugly as. So we will have to agree to disagree on that point. I'd love to upgrade a G8 with a set of XR headlamps and an XR front bar. Bobtail spoiler on the rear deck, some 18/19" wheels, big brakes, and black tint.

parawolf · 03-11-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

You know the thing is Fairlane sized? So what has Ford got to compete with that? G220... 220kW 470Nm. Oh, well, BF has 230kW 500Nm.

You still missed my point that it was only 5% more torque. Hmm I can't recall either stats about when peak torque is made, I dare say that the G8 makes it earlier in the rev range. Just how a luxo barge should.

Steve · 04-11-2005, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

I wonder if the SRT-8 will make it here...

I was talking to the Chrysler rep while I was up at Bathurst and he said the SRT8 is coming here.

vztrt · 04-11-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve

I was talking to the Chrysler rep while I was up at Bathurst and he said the SRT8 is coming here.

In the cars guide today it said that the Charger isn't coming to Australia.

Steffo · 04-11-2005, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

In the cars guide today it said that the Charger isn't coming to Australia.

They make a 300C SRT-8 too. Same 6.1litre 425hp V8.

merlin · 03-11-2005, 01:59 PM

I reckon I like it - priced well too at $59K for the HEMI V8

nang3 · 03-11-2005, 02:10 PM

I was going to wait for one of these to come before i bought my F6 but i thought they would be priced higher.. $59K is not too bad actually... guess it depends on the build quality and handling..

I think a supercharged black one running 22's with limo tint, dumped on its *** with a pumping stereo would be the goods.. prolly make me start saying words like "aks", "trippin" , "Ho" and "chillin" though haha

chippa6 · 03-11-2005, 02:32 PM

Think "course car" at indy - sounded awesome hooking around surfers!

MrSparkle · 03-11-2005, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chippa6

Think "course car" at indy - sounded awesome hooking around surfers!

Non standard exhaust on that one though.

300C is overrated, and as for looks, the rear end is ok but the front is like a retarded whale that's been clubbed about the head.

Charger SRT8 is so much tougher looking and would go harder everywhere. Gimme this one thanks.

Electric · 03-11-2005, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nang3

I was going to wait for one of these to come before i bought my F6 but i thought they would be priced higher.. $59K is not too bad actually... guess it depends on the build quality and handling..

......

Me too...

I registered with their website to get more info last year but then when the expected price for the V8 was the wrong side of $70k.

The local dealer was not impressed when he rang last week to tell me he would have one to take for a test drive soon, and I said
"thanks but no thanks, I just bought an FPV"

SunDrifter · 03-11-2005, 03:15 PM

Top gear reviewed one of these verses a supercharged jag and the monaro (ls1).

It came last.

Apparently its longer and wider then a Landcruiser too!

<edit>For the money, i'd rather have a phoon!

Fairlane · 03-11-2005, 03:19 PM

Everone seems to be roasting them.

I love them, I reckon they look damn hot, inside and out. Whether id buy one over a BF Fairlane G8 if I had the money, i dont know

BuuBox · 03-11-2005, 03:32 PM

I wonder how many G8's will get debadged...

mcflux · 03-11-2005, 03:43 PM

$59k! Ooooooh I want!!!

Love the look of them! I thought they'd be a lot more pricey than $59k

I hope Chrysler does well with the 300C in Australia :sm_headba

And they should bring back the Valiant :P

vztrt · 03-11-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghia5L

And they should bring back the Valiant :P

I'd be first in line if they did. :sm_drool:

PH47 · 03-11-2005, 03:52 PM

I love the 300C.. I hopefully plan on buying one later next year as a company car..

I know it's all personal taste but i LOVE the look of them, love everything about them.

I wouldn't go the whole 'black on 22s' thing with them though.. a set of tough looking deep dish rims.. gunmetal or black with a polished dish.. 19" or so.. leave it at that.. don't need anything else done to them!

Steffo · 03-11-2005, 03:50 PM

They should import these...

Charger SRT-8

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BuuBox · 03-11-2005, 03:55 PM

I think it's a very nice looking car, and with that price, might just sell a few. V6 would be struggling with 1900kg though...

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The company contends it wants to woo buyers considering HSV and FPV performance cars, too - although they're more likely to be lured by Chrysler's hot SRT (street and racing technology) version, on the radar for next year.

Sounds like the STR version of the 300C is coming. Might stir some things up at HSV and FPV, which can only be a good thing. Maybe a FPV Fairlane, like that concept thing? Never know... :P

parawolf · 03-11-2005, 03:55 PM

Steffo, scary I agree. that is a nice looking car. I'd love to see it in the flesh and see what sort of manual transmission they put behind it. But it has the looks where the 300C doesn't.

I guess i'm a 'sporty' car kinda person.

Gammaboy · 03-11-2005, 04:33 PM

For me, the best looking of the 3 Cars built on that platform is the Dodge Magnum wagon.... they look soooo HAWT!

Steffo · 03-11-2005, 04:43 PM

http://www.fast-autos.net/chrysler/chrysler300.html

2005 Chrysler 300C

340bhp (254kW) @ 5000rpm
390ftlbs (528Nm) @ 4000rpm
5800rpm redline

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsa..._name=FAIRLANE

Ford Fairlane G8

230kW (308hp) @ 5350rpm
500Nm (369ftlbs) @ 3500rpm

I don't know the G8's redline, but I'd assume its 6000rpm like every other BF.

parawolf · 03-11-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Ford Fairlane G8

230kW (308hp) @ 5350rpm
500Nm (369ftlbs) @ 3500rpm

I don't know the G8's redline, but I'd assume its 6000rpm like every other BF.

Well if it is unchanged from the BA, the 3V has a 5500rpm limiter.

XplosiveR6 · 03-11-2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

http://www.fast-autos.net/chrysler/chrysler300.html

2005 Chrysler 300C

340bhp (254kW) @ 5000rpm
390ftlbs (528Nm) @ 4000rpm
5800rpm redline

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsa..._name=FAIRLANE

Ford Fairlane G8

230kW (308hp) @ 5350rpm
500Nm (369ftlbs) @ 3500rpm

I don't know the G8's redline, but I'd assume its 6000rpm like every other BF.

how bout compare power/weight steffo, which actualy means something. i reckon the G8 will actually be quicker

Steffo · 03-11-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EF_Dave

how bout compare power/weight steffo, which actualy means something. i reckon the G8 will actually be quicker

Click the link to the Fast-Autos site, it has performance info for the 300C.

0-100km/h in 5.3 sec
0-160km/h in 13.4 sec
1/4 Mile in 13.9 sec @ 102mph (163.2km/h)
Speed Limited to 130mph (208km/h)

Weight is 4046lbs (1839kg).

Unless the new Fairlane G8 magically manages to accelerate like a GT or XR8, it won't beat the 300C. Methinks they've followed the typical American manufacturer trend as of late to post totally bullpoo power figures.

Yep, our 2003 Cobra makes 390hp... but its not our fault that it puts down 380rwhp when you dyno it :yeees:

XplosiveR6 · 04-11-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Click the link to the Fast-Autos site, it has performance info for the 300C.

0-100km/h in 5.3 sec
0-160km/h in 13.4 sec
1/4 Mile in 13.9 sec @ 102mph (163.2km/h)
Speed Limited to 130mph (208km/h)

Weight is 4046lbs (1839kg).

Unless the new Fairlane G8 magically manages to accelerate like a GT or XR8, it won't beat the 300C. Methinks they've followed the typical American manufacturer trend as of late to post totally bullpoo power figures.

Yep, our 2003 Cobra makes 390hp... but its not our fault that it puts down 380rwhp when you dyno it :yeees:

lol I stand corrected, to get a 13.9 i think the 5.7l has alot more power then 250kws to lug around 1800 odd kgs, alot more

Is it just me or is cryslers V8 engines line up very simpular to GMs, both have OHV 5.7l and 6l variants, (which remind me of old school muscle type of engines) they even have the same inlet manifold lol.

Ford US seem to be lacking in the V8 engine department, all they have is a supercharged 4.6 and supercharged 5.4. common ford bring back the 5.8 and 7.0l engines!