Japan's proof of parking rule.

[minheim]

The Drive website had an interesting article on Japan's proof of parking rule.
"Before you register a car in Japan, you have to prove you have somewhere to park it.
Implemented in 1962, Japan's proof of parking policy requires car owners to obtain what's known as a Shako Shomeisho or 'parking certificate' as an integral part of the car purchase experience – much like a roadworthy certificate or greenslip insurance.
This certificate confirms a car owner has access to a parking space of sufficient width and length for their vehicle, within two kilometres of their residential address.
Residents can pay a small fee and apply for the Shako Shomeisho at their local police station, after which a police officer or parking inspector will be sent to assess the space before approving the application. You can then proceed with registering your vehicle."

Here is the full article link - https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/j...-needs-it-too/

I think something like this is needed if Councils are going to approve medium/ higher density developments with no or limited onsite parking especially in many inner suburban areas. It might also be a good way to ensure garages are better utilised for their intended purpose.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by minheim

The Drive website had an interesting article on Japan's proof of parking rule.
"Before you register a car in Japan, you have to prove you have somewhere to park it.
Implemented in 1962, Japan's proof of parking policy requires car owners to obtain what's known as a Shako Shomeisho or 'parking certificate' as an integral part of the car purchase experience – much like a roadworthy certificate or greenslip insurance.
This certificate confirms a car owner has access to a parking space of sufficient width and length for their vehicle, within two kilometres of their residential address.
Residents can pay a small fee and apply for the Shako Shomeisho at their local police station, after which a police officer or parking inspector will be sent to assess the space before approving the application. You can then proceed with registering your vehicle."

Here is the full article link - https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/j...-needs-it-too/

I think something like this is needed if Councils are going to approve medium/ higher density developments with no or limited onsite parking especially in many inner suburban areas. It might also be a good way to ensure garages are better utilised for their intended purpose.

It's a good idea which they've had for quite a long time and which a few places in Australia have supposed to enforce within the building codes but on the whole don't.

P*sses me off trying to walk down a footpath and people have their crap, caravan, cars, boats and truck parked all over it.

Some of these new housing estates where a car barely fits between the garage door and the boundary is another instance. Designed for one car but most houses have around 3 or so.

[aussiblue]

But many OZ councils sadly have banned working on your own car in your own driveway and in some cases anywhere including your own shed or garage in built up areas..

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

But many OZ councils sadly have banned working on your own car in your own driveway and in some cases anywhere including your own shed or garage in built up areas..

They wouldn't know if you can not see it,(in a shed, garage or even closed backyard) and for the ones who are working on vehicles on the street or on full show of the public, this is the reason councils have been doing this.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

They wouldn't know if you can not see it,(in a shed, garage or even closed backyard) and for the ones who are working on vehicles on the street or on full show of the public, this is the reason councils have been doing this.

hey roK is this known around Sydney burbs ? CB ?
I have never heard my own Council impose these laws working on your cars - on your own property.
I get IF people are leaving jacked up cars on the street in front of their homes for eg.

As for the Japan direction, not surprised.
Comment re the ongoing high density living has merit as well.
Around the Burbs normal free standing home areas yer nah.

[Citroënbender]

The only times I’ve heard of anything like this (censure of activities) have been in private developments, not Torrens Title dwellings on public roads. The estates in North Ryde and Westleigh might want to have a crack if you changed your oil in the driveway or on the road.

What I do outside my place is all hobby - not for profit. I make an effort to get on with the local community, and refuse to charge labour if anyone needs a hand with something car-related.

My local council has not issued a single fine for unauthorised tree removal in the last five years, if they really cared about the place that would not be the status quo.

Many of the new developments are definitely producing a parking problem with more vehicles owned than can be practically stood on site or across the attributed street front.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by FTE217

hey roK is this known around Sydney burbs ? CB ?
I have never heard my own Council impose these laws working on your cars - on your own property.
I get IF people are leaving jacked up cars on the street in front of their homes for eg.
.

Don't know about working on cars on your own property, that was aussiblues statement.
I do know councils are currently "sweeping away" all the illegally parked up trailer yachts and some caravans around the Leichhardt area.

Last I heard the boat owners association was in negotiations to work out a safe place for storage of these non registered trailers.

There are quite a few council bylaws limiting the amount of cars allowed on a property, how far from the boundary you can park a motorhome within view of the public, truck parking (for Franco)

Google council bylaws for each district.

examples for noise related to power tools used in the automotive industry.

https://www.hornsby.nsw.gov.au/community/hazards/noise

https://www.cityofparramatta.nsw.gov.au/living/noise-pollution-and-maintenance/neighbourhood-noise

https://www.centralcoast.nsw.gov.au/...rhood-concerns

https://www.northernbeaches.nsw.gov....ollution/noise

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Don't know about working on cars on your own property, that was aussiblues statement.
I do know councils are currently "sweeping away" all the illegally parked up trailer yachts and some caravans around the Leichhardt area.

Last I heard the boat owners association was in negotiations to work out a safe place for storage of these non registered trailers.

There are quite a few council bylaws limiting the amount of cars allowed on a property, how far from the boundary you can park a motorhome within view of the public, truck parking (for Franco)

Google council bylaws for each district.

examples for noise related to power tools used in the automotive industry.

https://www.hornsby.nsw.gov.au/community/hazards/noise

https://www.cityofparramatta.nsw.gov.au/living/noise-pollution-and-maintenance/neighbourhood-noise

https://www.centralcoast.nsw.gov.au/...rhood-concerns

https://www.northernbeaches.nsw.gov....ollution/noise

yer cheers mate, nothing about working on cars (talking my area) as I thought but for the general noise law times that is fine.

The parking of boats agree with and that came along sometime ago when I was living in Gladesville area - anywhere near suburban boat ramps I agree is a PIA having so much parking taken up by boats hardly used and throw in caravans.
Your property park enm in your own space IF you can't sell them

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

There are quite a few council bylaws limiting the amount of cars allowed on a property, how far from the boundary you can park a motorhome within view of the public, truck parking (for Franco)

I've got a truck, plus five cars in the front yard,

My new neighbour has 8x various SS Commodores and the neighbour next to him has 7 cars,

Between the three of us we're doing our part keeping property values low for first home buyers

[aussiblue]

They wouldn't know if you can not see it,(in a shed, garage or even closed backyard) and for the ones who are working on vehicles on the street or on full show of the public,

It depends on how nasty and nosey your neighbours are. The ones behind me wanted my well maintained green colourbond shed removed as they say it spoils the view from their second story balcony. They have so far lost that one and the council has advised they have no chance as it complies with all current building requirements, is well maintained, isn't unsightly and was there before the bought the block and built. However they haven't given up and also complain that I have and quietly use my use car lift and we know councils and bylaws do change.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

Depends on how nasty and nosey your neighbours are.

and how nasty and noisey the mechanic is towards their neighbours.

[aussiblue]

and how nasty and noisey the mechanic is towards their neighbours.

In this case not at all and relationship I have to admit has improved considerably since they decided to erect new fences and walls around their property and I was the only neighbour to volunteer to meet half the cost of the one on the shared boundary although the existing fence was in good condition and some of the need for new walls and fences was due to them building retaining walls from when the filled and levelled their block.

[Citroënbender]

Precisely a problem of a fat, inward-looking and stupid nation.

Dogging people for saving money while whoring our natural resources, then buying them back at scandalous prices.

[aussiblue]

We discussed this before in https://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?p=6320726 There was a Council in WA proposing to ban it according to the press at the time but I think it died in the face of the rate payers opposition.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

We discussed this before in https://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?p=6320726

I said it before then and I'll say it again, typical demonic-republic of Commiefornia.

Thank g*d I live on an acre in a country town.

[Crazy Dazz]

That's why Japan has "Kei" cars. You don't need parking for them.
But Overall they try to discourage car use in big cities.

As for implementing something similar in Australia, hell no. Local Councils should be abolished, or given far less power, not more.

[roKWiz]

Technically Australia does have this proof of parking law, just doesn't enforce it.

Whenever you buy a vehicle and register it in most states, there is always a requirement to fill in the "What is its garaged address" section which is thereby a declaration of the vehicle being kept at a private or business address.

Of course the 3rd party insurance side of the rego uses this information to figure out the agreed costs of risk.

Doesn't comprehensive insurance ask if the vehicle is parked on the street at night ?

[.:4:.]

Then there is my sisters case. She doesn't drive, but her husband does own a car. Being inner west sydney, her house doesn't have a garage or even a driveway. Heaps hip and trendy or some crap to live in an overpriced tiny place thats old, crap and not practical at all. So the street is all timed parking unless you have a parking permit displayed. Council will only issue 1 parking permit per house on her street. Even though they have a car they typically just get youbers because if they take the car they usually have to park a street or 2 away (not where there permit is for) then do the keep an eye out the front window and do the harry holt if a car on the street leaves to snag that spot.