|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
16-01-2014, 08:53 AM | #1 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Central Q..10kms west of Rocky...
Posts: 8,307
|
The Volkswagen Golf has been named the Wheels magazine car of the year for 2013.
The win gives the company its third Wheels gong in five years and is the third time the Golf has taken out the prize following wins for models in 1976 and 2009. Wheels editor Glenn Butler said the Golf was satisfying to drive, serene to ride in and superbly user-friendly. "It's also remarkably fuel-efficient, inarguably safe, technically advanced and, especially in its least-expensive form, stunning value," he said. "Quite simply, the Golf has aced it." The only criticism the judges had of the car was the conservative approach taken by the company with the exterior and interior design. But they hailed the car's engineering advancements along with its pricing, fuel-efficiency and safety. "From the smallest, thoughtful details to the biggest basics, this is a car that never falters," the magazine said. "This is one of the most worthy Wheels car of the year winners ever." The Wheels award has been running since 1963, when the Renault R8 took out the prize. Last year it was shared by the Toyota 86 and the Subaru BRZ, the sports cars jointly developed by the two companies. The last Australian-built car to win the award was the Holden VE Commodore in 2006. http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/20774902/...-wheels-award/ My Comment : Didn't Holden pay Wheels enough !! and it still won with a faulty DSG box !!!???
__________________
CSGhia Last edited by csv8; 16-01-2014 at 09:12 AM. |
||
16-01-2014, 08:59 AM | #2 | ||
Render unto Caesar
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ::1
Posts: 4,226
|
Congrats to VW, the MKVII Golf is a remarkable car.
Quality, dynamics and a diverse range make it IMO a deserved winner. It has even made some question the value of the A3 range from Audi which share the same platform as the Golf. I am surprised, I did think the VF would win it.
__________________
"Aliens might be surprised to learn that in a cosmos with limitless starlight, humans kill for energy sources buried in sand." - Neil deGrasse Tyson |
||
16-01-2014, 09:08 AM | #3 | ||
Long live the inline 6
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 556
|
My best friend bought himself a MK7 (against my advise), fantastic car so far, exception to drive. He tends to get rid of his cars as the warranty runs out, so he should be safe. For me VW is off my shopping list for quite some time.
__________________
His 2007 Mazda 6 MPS Leather Pack Hers BFII Ghia |
||
This user likes this post: |
16-01-2014, 10:25 AM | #4 | ||
Donating Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Checking out soft furnishings....
Posts: 8,813
|
Has the auto transmission problem been rectified? we are up for a new medium car and been looking at subaru imprezza due to all wheel drive, might have a look at the golf today.
|
||
16-01-2014, 10:25 AM | #5 | ||
Mopar! But Own F6's..
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: F6DELAIDE
Posts: 3,210
|
Two work colleagues of mine have golfs. One has a 2012 GTI, the other just a normal 4 cyl diesel. The GTI has been in numerous times for computer issues with the supercharger/turbo which involved replacing the computer somewhere in there (after going back to VW over several months numerous times). The other diesel has just done 1-2 synchros in the gearbox (has 20,000 on it). Gearbox getting rebuilt under warranty. I know all cars have issues but both VW owners here at work have had pretty makor issues, which I definately would NOT want to be paying for if the vehicles were out of warranty.
__________________
F6 TYPHOON FPV 335 GT |
||
16-01-2014, 02:23 PM | #6 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,273
|
Quote:
Euro stuff is nice but it is over done with technology.....Why not just have a single turbo instead of charger AND turbo??? Too much to go wrong. Ford have done it with the EcoBoost and only 1.0ltr! |
|||
17-01-2014, 06:15 PM | #7 | |||
Erebus Motorsport Fan
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 624
|
Quote:
__________________
Forced Induction |
|||
This user likes this post: |
17-01-2014, 09:42 PM | #8 | |||
Render unto Caesar
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ::1
Posts: 4,226
|
Quote:
Seems to be a lot of people buying Golfs judging by all the "reviews" here.
__________________
"Aliens might be surprised to learn that in a cosmos with limitless starlight, humans kill for energy sources buried in sand." - Neil deGrasse Tyson |
|||
16-01-2014, 12:21 PM | #9 | ||
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,489
|
I have no doubt that Golfs and Polos etc are great cars, and are a fantastic/sensible choice for many.
But maybe its just me, but I find they (and other 'hot hatches') just do nothing for me in terms of wanting one, despite how good they clearly are...just don't interest me. I have no doubt these cars would run rings around my Falcon turbo in many ways, but i'd still rather my car in the driveway for some (maybe strange) reason! |
||
16-01-2014, 01:42 PM | #10 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 2,252
|
Quote:
I cant put my finger on it directly but I like my falcon. And I guess its the same for those who like other cars! even unreliable VW's JP |
|||
16-01-2014, 02:50 PM | #11 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,489
|
Quote:
Yeah it is a strange thing isn't it....haha. No doubt your buzzbox would be a great little car, in a completely different way that your Falcon is a great big car!! As you say I can't put my finger on it either. I actually sold a VY Clubsport (yeah, opposition I know...haha) to buy a Mazda 3 SP23 as it went OK, manual, handled well and was "sensible" with fuel/insurance etc - got rid of it within 12mths, worst decision i've ever made! Just literally did nothing for me, to the point I couldn't be stuffed washing it...... Sold for Falcon Turbo and 6 years later still have a smile on my face (which no doubt so many are and should be, with their brilliant little cars) |
|||
16-01-2014, 01:46 PM | #12 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: sydney.nsw.au
Posts: 6,119
|
Girlfriend has a 2012 TSI manual. She loves it and it is honestly a great A to B, city car.
On the highway it soaks up the miles no problem. Girlfriend's mum just got a 2013 (could be 2014 actually) TSI. Slightly updated looks, once again, great city car. This one has a DSG which seems ok, but has the blue motion tech, which turns the engine off when stopped. I hate that, and when we were using it the first button I'd press once in the car was the one to stop it from happening.
__________________
flickr |
||
16-01-2014, 01:51 PM | #13 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 446
|
It's a worthy winner. I just hope that Ford respond well when they facelift the LW2 Focus (because it, in ST form, will be my next car.)
|
||
16-01-2014, 06:28 PM | #14 | ||
Barra Turbo > V8
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 25,942
|
Dont expect to much when ST comes.
__________________
-2011 XR6 Turbo Ute - Lux Pack - M6 -2022 Hyundai Tucson Highlander Diesel N Line |
||
16-01-2014, 05:28 PM | #16 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
|
So it is a poverty pack model by the sound of it, no fancy wizz BANG dsg to cause problems?
|
||
16-01-2014, 05:42 PM | #17 | ||
Thailand Specials
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,444
|
Anyone here worked on VWs? We're fitting out new VicPol vans which are new Transporters.
If you've worked on one you'd never buy it, what an absolute pain in the ***, even to run wires around it is a total bastard, things also don't pull apart "logically". Otherwise, has a pretty bangin' stereo. |
||
16-01-2014, 05:46 PM | #18 | ||
BANNED
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,886
|
Yep...it's about as safe as any other small hatch in its class.
Have a head on with an FG Falcon and the Golf driver gets off much worse....and probably in an ambulance going slowly. That is a a fact...mass always wins. Give me 5 stars and at least 1600kg any day over a Golf, even with 97000 Wheels medals. |
||
17-01-2014, 02:05 AM | #19 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ipswich QLD
Posts: 4,697
|
Quote:
We also had a golf.....had some minor electrical gremlins.....gearbox died, they fixed it,we sold it to my sister in law, the gearbox died again. Not sure how the golf wins car of the year with such a huge problem on its resume this year. Maybe the model that won does t have the dsg I love the looks! |
|||
This user likes this post: |
16-01-2014, 05:50 PM | #20 | ||
^^^^^^^^
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: online - duh
Posts: 9,641
|
You don't win Wheels COTY 3 years out of 5 by making duds.
Just like some of the Falcon/Territory weaknesses (ball joints, brakes) the DSG issues have been blown out of all proportion. VW make great cars in my opinion, yet some people still buy Toyota's, go figure. My family stable includes a Mazda (daughter), the Falcon RTV ute (project/sons), the Territory (mine) and a VW Eos (SWMBO) The VW is easily the best made, highest quality and goes the hardest. The BA Falcon and Territory were also COTY winners in their introductory years
__________________
. |
||
16-01-2014, 05:55 PM | #21 | ||
BANNED
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,886
|
COTY doesn't address out of warranty issues or reliability.
As long as they don't develop a fault out of warranty....and they always do. The repair bill out of warranty on ours was stratospheric for a simple idle up/down problem. |
||
This user likes this post: |
17-01-2014, 11:24 AM | #22 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Melb north
Posts: 12,025
|
Quote:
|
|||
17-01-2014, 01:35 PM | #23 | |||
^^^^^^^^
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: online - duh
Posts: 9,641
|
Quote:
We've already taken a gamble. It's a 2008 model, so no warranty when we got it on 2012, and we purchased from interstate without first inspecting the car. The EOS had really low kms (still under 60k), was only driven by a little old lady on Sunday's (ok, a Gold Coast socialite who split her time between there and Port Douglas) was in the colour (Champagne) and with all the option we were chasing (Individual Pack) for a price I couldn't ignore. There's been a few aircon gremlins so far (not made for Australian heat wave conditions, unlike my Fords) and yes anything done or sourced from the VW dealer is waaayyyyy expensive, but otherwise it's a happy story so far. Touch wood. PS. my experience with Ford warranty and dealers and pricing hasn't exactly been great either.
__________________
. Last edited by Raptor; 17-01-2014 at 01:41 PM. |
|||
This user likes this post: |
16-01-2014, 05:53 PM | #24 | ||
Peter Car
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
|
Reliability has nothing to do with WCOTY. They can only base their vote or how the car performs on the days of testing.
If the DSG shags up 3 months later thats irrelevant to them. |
||
16-01-2014, 07:36 PM | #25 | ||
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,489
|
Guy I know lives in Qld and has a Golf R (newer version of "R32" apparently). Spent big $$ on it with mods, and it's figures are fantastic - 0-100 in low 4s, handles awesome, etc etc. I have no idea if true or not, but with $$ spent it would want to be.
But driving around and living with it, well, I mean, just look at it - do you want to be seen in one? I for one don't that's for sure, and I don't care how fast it is!! New Mustang though is another story, I could get whipped every day by a Golf but I know which car I want in my garage.... |
||
18-01-2014, 03:48 AM | #26 | ||||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Perth, WA
Posts: 1,311
|
Personally, I was expecting the VF to win, although I thought the Golf would be more deserving. Up until now, every Commodore that has entered a COTY has won: VB, VN, VR, VT, and VE. I didn't think Wheels had it in them to vote against the VF. But kudos to them
Quote:
Quote:
What happens down the track is another issue: as has been mentioned, the BA Falcon and SY Territory aren't without their issues, neither was the VE Commodore, yet they all won COTY awards. To me, it seems awfully like there are a lot of sore losers about that can't stand the fact that the VF didn't win.
__________________
Current car: 2016 Ford MD Mondeo Titanium EcoBoost (2016-) Previous cars: 2005 Ford BF Fairmont (2006-2019) 1989 Ford EA Falcon GL (2000-2007) 1982 Ford KA Laser Ghia (1999-2000) |
||||
18-01-2014, 03:49 PM | #27 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,489
|
Quote:
Quite easily actually, I think it looks like any other small hatch thing. None do anything for me! Great cars as I've said, just look rubbish. Apparently all adult human beings "can't say no" to a golf though...... And oh, why would sore losers be here about the VF if this is a Ford Forum.....makes little sense sorry. |
|||
16-01-2014, 11:08 PM | #28 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 837
|
Own a MKV 5 with DSG and its never gone bang. Drove a 1.6 tdi Mk7 in england recently. Lovely car, stupid electric handbrake and no guts whatsoever.
Was the 100 hp diesel, so only torsion bar rear end, so not as competent to drive as you'd think compared to a MKV. But that ******* handbrake... |
||
17-01-2014, 06:18 PM | #30 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lake Macquarie, Newcastle NSW
Posts: 3,164
|
Nobody can mistake the fact that VW know how to design & engineer an interior of fantastic build and quality. They could be viewed as somewhat bland, but everything fits to perfection. And everything is in the right places. It's a pretty good in my view.
|
||
This user likes this post: |