New P plate laws....

[SBR_1]

Well as of today I herd on the radio that P plate drivers can now only carry 1 pasenger in the car.

: Who the hell thought up this ruel how are we supose to set desinated drives to parties if we can only carry 1 person.

What do you all think. Biggest mistate they will make i think. Its going to P*** alot of people off i think.

I mean my sefl...i have to pick my brother and his mate up from school, now what do I do tell the cops to take the other kid home cause I can only carry 1 pasanger. :

[Professor Farnsworth]

i believe it's 1 16-21 year old passenger, from what i heard. Yes as far as designated driving goes it's not smart, but as far as peer group pressure goes, it's a good thing. Far less likely for the newly licensed to show off if it's simply their mate or gf in the car.

Good, and bad points, none of which address the real issue, SKILL LEVEL.

[GTWHOA]

What the? that cant be right thats just going too far..

[Trevor 57]

This has been law in New Zealand for many years, as is a curfew on younger drivers.

Unfortunately either one didn't appear to have any impact on the road toll over there.

[kyro_02]

i believe it only affects people who have either:

1.) got their L's/P's after the selected DATE.

and/or

2.) had their license suspended within the first 12 months

my opinion on this is pretty neutral, yes I'd hate it if i was affected by the new law. But I have been affected by peer pressure and have suffered.

[Booka]

The way it goes is, carry 2 or more under 15 and 2 or more over 22 so if ur a little younger in the group u should be right to shuttle ya older mates around if they are over 22, that's my understanding from my copper mate

[4Vman]

Cue the violin music.....

[XR6_661]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Cue the violin music.....

That's right...It's 3 years of your life. I'm sure you'll survive. The majority of times anyway, i doubt you'd have more than one other passenger in the car.

In my personal opinion also, I think you'd be pretty stupid to drive your car to a party, even if you were designated. There is public transport for a reason.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by XR6_661

...In my personal opinion also, I think you'd be pretty stupid to drive your car to a party, even if you were designated. There is public transport for a reason.

erm, i must be pretty stupid then, as i've never once taken public transport to a party.

[XR6_661]

Originally Posted by mrcrackers

erm, i must be pretty stupid then, as i've never once taken public transport to a party.

Are taxis not public transport?

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by XR6_661

Are taxis not public transport?

who said i've taken a taxi to a party ?

i've never done that either. I've always gone with friends who were driving, or driven myself.

[XCSEDAN]

Originally Posted by XR6_661

Are taxis not public transport?

try catching a taxi from my joint you will be waiting for 5 hours and they still wont show EVEN IF you have booked them.

[XR8 Uterous]

Originally Posted by XR6_661

In my personal opinion also, I think you'd be pretty stupid to drive your car to a party, even if you were designated. There is public transport for a reason.

Ok in a capital city yes, but what about a country town? Only public transport we have are buses which finish up before it even gets dark.

NSW P-Plate laws say you can only carry one passenger under the age of 25 between 11pm and 6am. So here you can still carry a car load during the day.

These are the most stupid laws that have been introduced to P-Platers, when they came into NSW a study showed that young drivers are more likely to be a designated driver for friends, so basically this law just results in more teens walking the streets waiting for a lift, or walking home, because their mate can longer be the designated driver for them due to the new laws. Drunk teens walking the streets just results in fights and vandalism.

[Booka]

The thing thats goning to screw me over, im the driver for the car pool for school and tafe. So im stuffed

[Jason[98.EL]]

from what i heard on the radio it is only for the 1st 12 months of your probationary license

jason

[XR-351]

yeah i heard its for the 1st year only, its still a rule gone over board, just mean there will be more p-platers on the road

instead of me taking 4 friends who are 18 with me, now we have to take 3 cars

and who ever recomended public transport, go catch a taxi or the train home from the citi one night and then tell me you would keep doing it with no problem...

[davocol]

I was really opposed to this law when it was first bandied around as to me it simply meant there would be more p plate drivers on the roads but I think it has been implemented with some wisdom. It is only in the first year of your license and it is only for a certain age group i.e. You can still take your family, kids, brothers sisters to school etc. I do feel sorry for the person driving to the party who has had there ps for a year though, they will be stuck driving every week

The more interesting announcement for me and a massive step in the right direction which Bracks ridiculously held back is this one.
Electronic stability control and side curtain airbags will become mandatory in all new cars over the next two to three years.

That is massive news and the benefits will be seen within the next 10 years.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...06/2155629.htm

[TaNkY fAiRmOnT]

Yea the rule may be a bit harsh and i know i felt the exact same way as SBR 1 earlier and now when you think about it there are plenty of car accidents that involve P platers and death. However i dont think putting P platers straight to that law is the thing to do YET... maybe if they do speed once or something then they should put in that law to the person. Not to ALL the P platers. Some are responsable drivers and shouldnt deserve to have this law put against them. Its insane! I also will have brothers to take to school and i will be restricted to do that. Still wont stop me from lookin forward to getting my Ps! 33 weeks 1 day! :

josh

[[Tonko]]

Ahaha. Sucks to be you! Maybe now you can concentrate on driving.
Off my P's on April 14th, Woooo!

[Dezza]

Just another stupid law by more people that have no idea. For a government that's always trying to get people to carpool, this makes it impossible for young drivers. Limiting passengers will do nothing to help the road toll. In fact it will put more cars on already congested roads, creating potentially more accidents. Only a very small percentage of accidents / fatalities are caused by hooning with a car load. Most accidents for young drivers are caused by lack of experience. Put more inexperienced drivers behind the wheel, and expect more accidents. Simple as that.

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Dezza!

. Put more inexperienced drivers behind the wheel, and expect more accidents. Simple as that.

NO.... put more inexperienced drivers in positions where that can concentrate on driving without peer group pressure or distractions.
Limiting or reducing the time young drivers spend driving is counter productive to them gaining experience isnt it???? and totaly at ods with the message the govt is trying to get accross about gaining experience (in a safe and responsible manner) on the roads.

Originally Posted by wheels260

It's just going to make 4 cars on the road all trying to beat each other to the same spot and trying to show there mates what they can do, so will cause more of a problem i feel. Instead of just having one idiot now your going to have 4 ?

Again no.. you're assuming every P Plater is an idiot behind the wheel arent you? or every P Plater is only interested in racing around at night..
Drunk or boisterous passengers in a car driven by an inexperienced driver is a recipe for disaster.

[Dezza]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

NO.... put more inexperienced drivers in positions where that can concentrate on driving without peer group pressure or distractions.
Limiting or reducing the time young drivers spend driving is counter productive to them gaining experience isnt it???? and totaly at ods with the message the govt is trying to get accross about gaining experience (in a safe and responsible manner) on the roads.

I'm still against it. Some might show off more with mates in the car, and crash, but that's a very small figure. I did crash on my p-plates. Was it peer pressure, or showing off? No, it was inexperience and carelessness. Why I'm against it, I used to always help my parents out by driving my sisters and brother around for them. It just wouldn't work with a passenger limit of one. While I'm now past that stage (23, and living away from home), I reckon the law is ridiculous.

[daniel_rossy]

Originally Posted by SBR_1

Well as of today I herd on the radio that P plate drivers can now only carry 1 pasenger in the car.

: Who the hell thought up this ruel how are we supose to set desinated drives to parties if we can only carry 1 person.

What do you all think. Biggest mistate they will make i think. Its going to P*** alot of people off i think.

I mean my sefl...i have to pick my brother and his mate up from school, now what do I do tell the cops to take the other kid home cause I can only carry 1 pasanger. :

Originally Posted by VicRoads

The restrictions will not apply when drivers are using the car for essential activities

so you can take siblings to school.

[daniel_rossy]

Oh and to clear everything up,
this is only for people who get their P'S After July 1 2008, They arent making a new blanket rule for all 1st Year P Platers its just an addition to the other new rules commencing on July 1 2008 for Newly licened drivers who get there Ps after that date.
Btw, Repost.
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11208705

[TaNkY fAiRmOnT]

Yea does suck to be me now because im always getting reminded by daniel_rossy at school basically every day because he doesn't have to get that rule. Oh well. i dont think it will affect me too much. I wonder what the penalty would be like if someone broke the law??? Hummmm used:

josh

[Keepleft]

Daniels original post should continue - I posted same as a seperate thread, hopefully Admins will merge a couple, or all three under Daniels title!

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11208705

[daniel_rossy]

Originally Posted by Keepleft

Daniels original post should continue - I posted same as a seperate thread, hopefully Admins will merge a couple, or all three under Daniels title!

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11208705

haha na its cool this has a better title

[daniel_rossy]

Originally Posted by TaNkY fAiRmOnT

Yea does suck to be me now because im always getting reminded by daniel_rossy at school basically every day because he doesn't have to get that rule. Oh well. i dont think it will affect me too much. I wonder what the penalty would be like if someone broke the law??? Hummmm used:

josh

[Conrad]

We have this law in NSW already. Just take your P plates off if ur worried. If you got a drunk mate(s) i'd rather cop the whatever than have them make their own way home.

[wheels260]

It's just going to make 4 cars on the road all trying to beat each other to the same spot and trying to show there mates what they can do, so will cause more of a problem i feel. Instead of just having one idiot now your going to have 4 ?