Holden to come after negative posters/Keyboard warriors,regarding their brand.

hackney · 10-03-2019, 07:28 AM

So,let the battle begin! A war they cannot win! Word of advice Holden: drop the Commodore nameplate,Just call it Holden Insignia.Get rid of ANY Korean sourced vehicles.You have not much of interest in your range(unfortunately) You have to listen to your potential customers bring it on!

**Fordman1** · 10-03-2019, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hackney

So,let the battle begin! A war they cannot win! Word of advice Holden: drop the Commodore nameplate,Just call it Holden Insignia.Get rid of ANY Korean sourced vehicles.You have not much of interest in your range(unfortunately) You have to listen to your potential customers bring it on!

What the .... ?

hackney · 10-03-2019, 08:12 AM

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What the .... ?

Exactly! What the?

**Fordman1** · 10-03-2019, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by hackney

Exactly! What the hell is Hackney on, and what is that freaking thread title about ?

Fixed it for you

CyberWasp · 10-03-2019, 08:24 AM

I think there was a story somewhere saying that Holden was going to have people patrol internet forums and engage people who were posting anti-Holden rants ect.
I think the OP is trying to get a Holden rep to post on here for some fun.

hackney · 10-03-2019, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

I think there was a story somewhere saying that Holden was going to have people patrol internet forums and engage people who were posting anti-Holden rants ect.
I think the OP is trying to get a Holden rep to post on here for some fun.

Coool! We are gaining traction! Houston we no longer have a problem!

**Fordman1** · 10-03-2019, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

I think there was a story somewhere saying that Holden was going to have people patrol internet forums and engage people who were posting anti-Holden rants ect.
I think the OP is trying to get a Holden rep to post on here for some fun.

Are Holden “sourcing out” to some Russian “troll farm” or something ?

hackney · 10-03-2019, 08:36 AM

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Are Holden “sourcing out” to some Russian “troll farm” or something ?

I did message on twitter to them! No reply as yet! Things “should” get interesting!

Sprint XR8 · 10-03-2019, 10:57 AM

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Are Holden “sourcing out” to some Russian “troll farm” or something ?

Even better. Holden have outsourced management of it's social media to BBE, a troll farm of Brunswick hipsters.

Citroënbender · 10-03-2019, 11:00 AM

So when engaging with these Brunswicksters, instead of suggesting what you’ve done with their mother, one simply needs to say “I peed in your doppio”?

Bill M · 10-03-2019, 11:33 AM

One has to ask, if you don't own a Holden and probably never will why bother spending your time trolling a company that employs Australian staff and that sells and services vehicles for the Australia public? Doing that under the cover of the Ford Forums banner reflects poorly on this site.
Again why?

Interceptor · 10-03-2019, 09:18 AM

I'm guessing they've discovered that the truth hurts...

Ford17 · 10-03-2019, 10:15 AM

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It’s not quite Big Brother, but Holden might soon be paying a lot more attention to the comments you write about it on websites like carsales.com.au.

Having decided it no longer wanted to simply be a punching bag for social media invective and mistruths, the company started correcting its critics on its own social media channels in the last six months.

And it’s been buoyed by the response, claiming a reduction in overall negativity and a more positive standard of conversation overall.

Now, if it becomes aware of anti-Holden commentary not being reigned in on independent automotive (and other) websites, it says it will step in and defend itself.

https://www.motoring.com.au/holden-g...rriors-117146/

wodahs · 10-03-2019, 11:29 AM

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https://www.motoring.com.au/holden-g...rriors-117146/

now if op had just posted something like this at the begging the first half of the thread wouldn't have looked so much like he was off his medication or had remover his tin foil hat , and it all makes more sense now and not just some troll thread

hackney · 10-03-2019, 11:30 AM

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now if op had just posted something like this at the begging the first half of the thread wouldn't have looked so much like he was off his medication or had remover his tin foil hat , and it all makes more sense now

I am still on my “meds”!

Terror_Tree · 10-03-2019, 04:49 PM

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https://www.motoring.com.au/holden-g...rriors-117146/

I reckon this will be a bad idea, feeding the trolls will not go well.

bundera · 11-03-2019, 03:10 PM

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https://www.motoring.com.au/holden-g...rriors-117146/

It's a wonder they weren't made to have the heading "Holden creates more jobs"

Sioso · 13-03-2019, 06:30 AM

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https://www.motoring.com.au/holden-g...rriors-117146/

Draws a lot of parallels with scientology.

CyberWasp · 10-03-2019, 12:29 PM

Holden have no one to blame but themselves for all the negative comments over the last few years. They have made by far, the most moronic decisions of all the car companies in recent times.

Taking Tax Payer Money to keep the factory open, then closing it and not refunding the money.

Closing the factory and not realizing, that in doing so, they have made their name and what it means to Australians, extinct or irrelevant.

Calling a Car a Commodore that is by definition not a Commodore to the Australian Public.

Broken promises on future new cars.

......start listing the others.

hackney · 10-03-2019, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Holden have no one to blame but themselves for all the negative comments over the last few years. They have made by far, the most moronic decisions of all the car companies in recent times.

Taking Tax Payer Money to keep the factory open, then closing it and not refunding the money.

Closing the factory and not realizing, that in doing so, they have made their name and what it means to Australians, extinct or irrelevant.

Calling a Car a Commodore that is by definition not a Commodore to the Australian Public.

Broken promises on future new cars.

......start listing the others.

You want to be careful what you say! You will be a marked man!They will be after you!

Bill M · 10-03-2019, 12:39 PM

You would make more sense in going after the politicos who had their hands on the levers and goaded Holden into shutting up shop.

However if people want to spend their time anonymously slagging off a company...

Citroënbender · 10-03-2019, 12:45 PM

I've always believed it was the other way around, and - from a non-insider's casual viewpoint - that Mitsubishi, particularly, set the tone:

"We're gonna go!"
- Please stay, here's some cash.

Am I wrong in recollecting, or did they pull basically this same caper twice over?

To me it was the government(s) fostering a cynical disloyalty to the consumer. Not that it has been helped by the cultural cringe that saw an imported car as better than a local one.

roddy1960 · 10-03-2019, 01:27 PM

Different times . The day we ceased manufacturing we were totally at the whim of the importers no matter what brand we bought from , not least Ford . Take out Ranger and Mustang and Ford sales are nothing special either .

Re Holden ...The VF Commodore was a bloody nice car , especially the V8 and was their real saving grace for a fair time but one car won't save a whole company in this country and it didn't .As good or whatever the 'new' Commodore is it's been a huge showroom fail for the General . Goes without saying .

All been said before but with a huge choice of the SUV's , even if any current Holden stuff like Colorado , Trax , Equinox , Acadia , Captiva or whatever was standout none of them will be big enough sellers to push Holden way up the sales charts again .

Ford Ranger is one for blue oval brigade that has done well . Endura, Everest , Escape and such might be a bit like Holden and lost in the mire of so many other SUV's...but we'll have to wait and see on that. Cars have been pushed off the cliff though and their days are done by the looks especially on the back of GM and Ford culling cars left right and centre especially in the USA to concentrate on building SUV/Trucks .

The halo car for Ford globally though is Mustang and with the Hybrid V8 likely to come to fruition in the not too distant future it might just secure the halo on the head for a fair while yet . Heady golden Holden days are over I'm sorry to say so for Holden to chase the keyboard warriors it should be the least of their worries I think .

hayseed · 10-03-2019, 01:34 PM

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Different times . Heady golden Holden days are over I'm sorry to say so the keyboard warriors are the least of their worries IMO .

Exactly.....

Joe5619 · 15-03-2019, 04:33 PM

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Taking Tax Payer Money to keep the factory open, then closing it and not refunding the money.
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Did Ford or Toyota refund the money they received?

Adamz Ghia · 15-03-2019, 05:41 PM

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Did Ford or Toyota refund the money they received?

I don’t remember Ford asking for money to stay open till 2021 and closing 5 years early.

CyberWasp · 15-03-2019, 07:42 PM

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Did Ford or Toyota refund the money they received?

I could be wrong, but Ford would have closed at the end of the FGII Falcon but were coerced into the FGX with some Government funding.
Ford met their obligation with the money as far as I can see.
They didn't take the money and not produce the FGX.

jpd80 · 16-03-2019, 03:59 PM

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I could be wrong, but Ford would have closed at the end of the FGII Falcon but were coerced into the FGX with some Government funding.
Ford met their obligation with the money as far as I can see.
They didn't take the money and not produce the FGX.

From what I was told, Production had to end before 1 November, 2016
which was the compulsory date for Falcon and Territory to meet Euro 5.

By 2012, most of Ford's parts were supplied from overseas via For Asia Pacific
and while Falcon and Territory never showed a profit in their last few years,
I am reliably informed that those FAP supplier sales to FoA were quite profitable
to FAP and they were quite happy to continue the arrangement right up to the end.

FGX project funding was approved early 2012 and in August of that year,
Ford bought out FPV including all assets, equipment and IP, so they had
roughly four years from that time to October 2016 to recover as many
costs as possible.

CyberWasp · 10-03-2019, 12:33 PM

I forgot to add

Blindly buying thousands of Cars not anticipating the fallout of the reasons mentioned above and being unable to sell them.

hackney · 10-03-2019, 12:35 PM

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I forgot to add

Blindly buying thousands of Cars not anticipating the fallout of the reasons mentioned above and being unable to sell them.

That is enough! Penalty: “dragged” into a Holden dealership & forced to buy a Equinox!