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Old 05-07-2017, 08:00 PM   #1
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So I got stuck behind the driverless bus trial today and as usual though I'd have some fun teasing it.
I drove up pretty close behind it to see if I could put it off and it started to flash some angry led lights at me. After a few goes at that, I'll be buggered, it brake tested me, in a slow controlled way, but it was definitely got upset.
Damn it made me smile, I've got imaginations of future highways full of driverless vehicles brake testing and rubbing panels like a couple of F1 drivers
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Oh no, perish the thought,

Driverless Camrys.
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Oh no, perish the thought,

Driverless Camrys.
Safer then the jokers that drive them.
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Oh no, perish the thought,

Driverless Camrys.
whom I going to insult?
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I can see people taking advantage of driverless vehicles.
People might feel bad cutting someone off or worry about someone not backing down when they are pushing in, but in a driverless car I'm sure it will be lenient and giveway to everything to avoid an accident. If driverless vehicles are easy to spot, I see them being pushed in front of at merge points all the time.



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Driverless Camrys.
You mean increasing their average speed and forcing them to turn left from the left lane rather than using 2 lanes to turn. Can't see the issue with driverless Camry's and Corollas.

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Will trucks of the future will be driverless or remote controlled too?
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Will trucks of the future will be driverless or remote controlled too?
big trials in Europe and the mines here are using driverless 150 tonners
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All this talk of driverless cars reminds me of this...

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we have a driverless delivery vehicle trial here in our neighbourhood for a local supermarket chain. seems to be going well...still has an attendant to do the deliveries though.

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we have a driverless delivery vehicle trial here in our neighbourhood for a local supermarket chain. seems to be going well...still has an attendant to do the deliveries though.

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And there will be a ton of smaller deliveries done by larger drones, especially in rural areas.
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All well about driverless cars back in the earley sixties I was an apprentice on VWs and was shown a movie about driverless VWs the driver drove the first one and the other 3 followed braking and accelerating in unison
that was over 50 years ago
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And there will be a ton of smaller deliveries done by larger drones, especially in rural areas.
Wonder if it will deliver shipping containers ?
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And there will be a ton of smaller deliveries done by larger drones, especially in rural areas.
Rural areas will still be doing it manually in 50 years.
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Rural areas will still be doing it manually in 50 years.
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we have a driverless delivery vehicle trial here in our neighbourhood for a local supermarket chain. seems to be going well...still has an attendant to do the deliveries though.

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Yep over the next decade people's jobs will be down graded. Someone will not be employed as a truck driver, but a delivery assistant. Their pay will be cut in half since they will require no major skill to perform that job.
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The uptake of driverless vehicles is going to happen in the transport industry very quickly. I think human truck drivers have no more than 10 years to find other work.

This century is not going to be human friendly, the autonomous revolution is near.
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The uptake of driverless vehicles is going to happen in the transport industry very quickly. I think human truck drivers have no more than 10 years to find other work.

This century is not going to be human friendly, the autonomous revolution is near.
Think you are very optimistic if this going to happen in ten years, for the roll out of infrastructure for driverless vehicles and purchase of new trucks will be forever.
Truck companies are renown to hold on old to old trucks while they still can earn a dollar.
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Think you are very optimistic if this going to happen in ten years, for the roll out of infrastructure for driverless vehicles and purchase of new trucks will be forever.
Truck companies are renown to hold on old to old trucks while they still can earn a dollar.
Most older trucks are built to last a million + miles.
A lot of smaller trucking companies are rebuilding their older rigs to bring them to standards of minimum requirement meaning they're looking for ways to delete computer controlled engines.
In the US 'gliders" are still a popular choice to get on the road. Gliders are new cab/chassis and front suspensions, its up to the company / O.O to fit a rebuilt drivertrain usually of the non ECM variety.

I reckon it will be a while to convince smaller companies this is good for them.
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They won't need to convince them. They would be out of business.
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Hmm - looking forward to driverless race cars
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The crowd attendance is gonna be huge!
Apple vs Android vs ?
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The crowd attendance is gonna be huge!
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No crowd at all ... will be the quietest motorsport event ever.

Now that everyone streams everything .... only cameras everywhere (and no cameramen) ... as it will will be motion-sensed with auto tracking.

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No crowd at all ... will be the quietest motorsport event ever.

Now that everyone streams everything .... only cameras everywhere (and no cameramen) ... as it will will be motion-sensed with auto tracking.

Would be interesting to see gridbot girls. If they malfunction, they might start tripping over their miniskirts.
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Why would you want to watch that garbage? What's they point of car racing if it's all just computer controlled to be perfect.
The people who like it will be the same idiots who gamble on that electronic horse racing crap they have at some pubs.
Whoever has the lowest payout on the win at the TAB will be the one that will always win.
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I'm still watching the driverless bus trial. It had an interesting hic-up recently.
After being asked, again, to remove their safety signage and cones because it was freaking out the bus it lightly side swiped a road workers truck...
So what does a driverless bus do in case of an accident?
It just recalculates and keeps driving, lol!
Its not like it had to do a runner because its uninsured, its owned by the RAC.
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cant imagine them/those having a real crack at it.
procession come to mind,, or is it just me..
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Word has it that if you 'upset' it enough, it'll send you a nasty email ;)
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reminds me of something that i have observed a little bit more of lately

I do lot of freeway driving and has noticed a trend of space cadets in higher end cars siting in the right hand lane like they are using some sort of automatic cruise control and lane guidance. Puting out a combination arrogant/zombie vibe.

I notice that the radar cruise controls are pretty conservative and if you move back infront of them it can slow them down quite quickly as it backs off to create distance. Quite funny to watch them snap out of their day dream (i dont do this but its obvious some people are in the know)

Now i would not be one to abuse this knowledge, but once word gets out, I can see people on the m4 m7 etc taking advantage of cars with this sort of feature - ie, i'll cut in front of that new e class because they have auto cruise control and it will back of and make room as opposed to cutting in front of that VT ss commodore and getting a stubbie thrown at me (full disclosure - i think any one that drives a VT ss is a bogan ... ok...... prove me wrong)
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