The Car you really hate

[MercuryT]

As title suggests what is THE car you really hate. Later than 2000 preferred.

Doesn't have to be rational, fair or justified criticism. (fun thread so nothing personal to owners etc if have one listed, just a laugh!)

All that matters is something about them really grates on you as a car fanatic.

I'll start.

Mini Coopers (the newer ones).

Legit think look absolutely ridiculous, are useless practically, and badge means nothing to me.

I'm sure sure good handling cars but just cringe worthy for mine.

Close second: Hyundai Veloster. Just no.

[fnp]

For me the Mini Coopers aren't the most offensive but the other stuff like the Countryman are boggle eyed monstrosities. Sir Alec would be rolling in his grave.


I can't stand a lot of modern BMWs and Mercs, especially stuff like the X4 and X6. What happened to the elegance and beautiful engineering of the older cars...


Might also have to nominate the Camry for generally having hopeless drivers!

[Jack91]

PT cruiser
Dodge nitro
Nissan juke

[au2000]

Juke, Prius, velositer,

[MercuryT]

All great replies and yes the Juke right up there for me.

How you could walk into a dealer and go "i want that" and pay $$ truly escapes me.

But the it's great everyone is different!

Nissan Cube, it is ****-ugly

[Syndrome]

Holden TK Barina 2005 - 2011 which was a rebadged Daewoo Kalos. Represented everything I hated about Holden. Prior to 2005 the car sold poorly as the Daewoo designed car was a mediocre product. Then Holden started selling the same car with the only changes being badges and other cosmetic tweaks. It sold in volumes up to 10 times higher than when it had Daewoo badges. But it was the same car being built by the same people in South Korea! Just the company name was changed to GM-DAT.

[xa302]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Holden TK Barina 2005 - 2011 which was a rebadged Daewoo Kalos. Represented everything I hated about Holden. Prior to 2005 the car sold poorly as the Daewoo designed car was a mediocre product. Then Holden started selling the same car with the only changes being badges and other cosmetic tweaks. It sold in volumes up to 10 times higher than when it had Daewoo badges. But it was the same car being built by the same people in South Korea! Just the company name was changed to GM-DAT.

Other badge engineering fails:

Toyota Lexcen (Commodore)
Nissan Ute (Ford ute)
Ford Telstar (Mazda 626)
Holden Apollo (Toyota Camry)
... and the most shameful of all the 2018 ZB Commodore (Opel)

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by xa302

... and the most shameful of all the 2018 ZB Commodore (Opel)

It shows how much Holden/GM couldn't tell the difference between **** and clay, they took advantage of their customer base for years thinking they were infallible.

So much so they thought slapping the badge on some wrong wheel drive mid size junk and Commodore buyers wouldn't know the difference.

And these people have university degrees

Originally Posted by 290GTP

This fecking abortion.

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There's one across the road from my work, everytime I see it I just get angry. I don't really know why.

Honestly who in the hell thought it'd be good to call it the 'cactus' - out of every plant on the planet and they chose those pricks.

Should have called it the Citroen Rock Spider because thats who'd own one of those things.

[Express]

Ferrari F8 Spider, I can say with all honestly I'll never own one.






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[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Express

Ferrari F8 Spider, I can say with all honestly I'll never own one.


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Well it isn't Ferrari red so fair enough to hate it!!

[gooseneck]

All of the Commodores.

Kingswoods are ok though.

[M&Ms]

Prius, Camry, Kluger, VS Commodore, SsangYong, Kia Carnival, 4-door Skylines and Stageas

[Ben]

A VW Golf because it probably has its check engine light on.

[.:4:.]

Mercedes x class. Reason being nobody will ever use one for the purpose of a ute. And i will elaborate further, i will include any other high spec dual cab ute. The tray is too short, and the interior is too precious for filthy work clothes.

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

Mercedes x class. Reason being nobody will ever use one for the purpose of a ute. And i will elaborate further, i will include any other high spec dual cab ute. The tray is too short, and the interior is too precious for filthy work clothes.

Great call. Purpose and why bought vastly apart I suspect.

Many very capable SUV off-roaders (like Range Rovers) are similar.

Doubt less than 1% actually see real off road conditions not just the school fun to impress or out-do other mum's etc.............

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Great call. Purpose and why bought vastly apart I suspect.

Many very capable SUV off-roaders (like Range Rovers) are similar.

Doubt less than 1% actually see real off road conditions not just the school fun to impress or out-do other mum's etc.............

I cant rat too hard on the benzs. My mum had an ML which had a transfer case, it was an 01 so it did have low range. When i had my p plates, it had seen (my parents didt see this bit) a bit of bush bashing, and it was full time 4wd so on the loose stuff, 4 wheel doughies. Prior to that when i was an L plater, it was the tow rig and i taunted my dad for a long time because he was **** at reversing the boat, and at boat ramps, the last thing you want to be is the **** guy at reversing. Well, turns out i was the one and done. Did retievals in 2 foot of water off sand in that thing. Dad had balls to throw me the keys when i wasnt legal to even drive alone. But that thing was more utility then most 5 seater utes these days.
I also dont like any subaru after 1999.

[hendrixhc]

Mitsubishi Sigma.


Had one about 20 years ago and still regret it.

[Fordman]

The first VE GTS. Front bumper looked awful imo.

Also the vx commodore in general.

Prius has to be on the list

There is a lot of others but i find myself conflicted on whether i hate the car itself or the stereotypes whondrive them lol.

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Fordman

The first VE GTS. Front bumper looked awful imo.

Also the vx commodore in general.

Prius has to be on the list

There is a lot of others but i find myself conflicted on whether i hate the car itself or the stereotypes whondrive them lol.

Damn my mum won't be happy with that!

Getting offers regularly as best going around.

We will keep it.

ps; why a VX is disappointing yet the VT far worse and VY no better outside console I'm not sure but cool

[flightstrike]

Ford KA, Juke, Prius, there’s plenty more but the names escape me right now.

[Mr Brooksy]

I know I will get grief for this but... Ford Ranger, Holden Colorado, Dodge Ram, Toyota Hilux, Isuzu DMax... yep the new Aussie pickup/ute.

Don't like em cause I just don't. They're the new bogan mobiles, only they are now high riding, owners think that they can drive over anything, somehow own the road, scrape other cars, need 2 car spots cause its raised higher than Mr Gadgets car with huge muddys, look like a dogs breakfast (especially that RAM) and generally driven like they are a sports car.

Oh and a Prius.

[wackyv8]

volkswagen - all of them , especially beetle - hitlers curse on the world

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by wackyv8

volkswagen - all of them , especially beetle - hitlers curse on the world

Fair call. Until the Rs smashed the local V8s etc of course.

Overall yes VW highly boring

[Franco Cozzo]

AU Falcon









































Nah, just kidding


Thailand specials, followed by VAG cars, Jeep in third place and Alfa Romeo in 4th

Add French cars somewhere on my ****list too, it's a big list.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by wackyv8

volkswagen - all of them , especially beetle - hitlers curse on the world

Another vote for Hitlermobiles, including their cousins Porsche & Audi.

I hate Mercedes because that star adorned most of the Nazi staff-cars.

BMW because during the 80s & 90s in Australia, they were purchased exclusively by insufferable ****ers.

Great Walls. Just an insult to cars and carbuyers everywhere.

Avalon - just the supreme example of everything wrong with Toyota.

[gooseneck]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Great Walls. Just an insult to cars and carbuyers everywhere.

Agreed stuff China and not just because of the Chinese but because they think we will buy their poorly manufactured cars.

Avalon - just the supreme example of everything wrong with Toyota.

https://youtu.be/Wx9CGv3Ktlk

Gotta love your car getting advertised by a drag queen touching himself. That must really help the second hand market value and you know what it does they still hold their value. That tells you a bit about the delusional mindspace that Toyota owners are in.

Great car well engineered instruments inside (aside from the fact the dash digs into your knees and theres less leg room than literally any other car including a Hyundai Excel) but you know what? No more reliable than a Falcon if anything more prone to blowing head gaskets than a Falcon is and its a huge job each time.

The 1MZ-FE is touted in the US as one of the best engineered engines ever but over here they are unreliable explosive engines on wheels. At least thats my experience and my mechanics experience. Thing blows a plume of smoke every time I start it up.

Originally Posted by xa302

Toyota Lexcen (Commodore)

I saw one of them at the 7-11 and it had a young bloke in it as he waited for his friends and he had a sort of Shining thing going on was looking at me all aggressive as I walked past the car.

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and say thats a rare car (I was curious about it) but he knew what he'd bought. I'm sure his friends teased him about it.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by gooseneck

Gotta love your car getting advertised by a drag queen touching himself. That must really help the second hand market value and you know what it does they still hold their value. That tells you a bit about the delusional mindspace that Toyota owners are in.

Great car well engineered inside but you know what? No more reliable than a Falcon if anything more prone to blowing head gaskets than a Falcon is and its a huge job each time.

It was a car nobody wanted, built for a market that didn't exist, and it was just woeful.

Its the same problem Toyota has always had. They should have become an appliance company. They are the world's best at "Toyota-ising" but for the most part they suck at designing cars.

They brought the old Avalon tooling to Australia, because of some weird Toyota fixation that they needed to compete with the Falcon and Commode, and that this misbegotten pig was somehow the right car for the job. This despite obvious evidence that our love affair with big 6 RWD was already starting to wane in real terms. It offered nothing over the Camry built on the same platform, and the suspension and handling were appalling even by Toyota standards. They'd done some deal with the Victorian government, to build this "new" car in Altona, and this resulted in their sales being mostly to taxi operators.
And as I said, typical Toyota. They already had a problem selling the Camry to males under 70, so they made a car that was even more sloppy and boring.

[Ben73]

X6 and the Mercedes version the GLE or whatever it is. However I like the Q8 even though I hate most other Audi‘s. Especially the R8. Horrible thing that is

[Rob 351]

Holden Camira.