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Old 06-09-2005, 04:46 PM   #1
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a mate was in a servo last night filling up when this BA GT pulled up. he was checking it out when he noticed the red and blue lights in the back window. a cop jumped out and they were having a chat. aparently its a V8 XT with the GT kit on it. all he does is cruise around the traffic and people try to race him thinking its some bloke out for a cruise in this new GT. obviously theyd have about 10 seconds of glory thinking they smoked a GT off the line then the lights come on.

lol. so watch out in sth west sydney.

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I hate it when they do that crap... fair enough to nab someone hwen they are being a ******** ... but I draw the line at entrapment
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lol yeah i know. what a job though, heres a V8 falcon with a GT kit. cruise around a pick up speeders.

still ive been pulled up by a tarago... did not expect that one.
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I hate it when they do that crap... fair enough to nab someone hwen they are being a ******** ... but I draw the line at entrapment
if they are stupid enough to street race, then they deserve what they get, whether you think it entrapment or not....
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if they are stupid enough to street race, then they deserve what they get, whether you think it entrapment or not....
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:38 PM   #6
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if they are stupid enough to street race, then they deserve what they get, whether you think it entrapment or not....
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I wouldn't say 'high and mighty' as I agree. Just because you thought you were racing someone who wasn't a copper doesn't mean you should get off. It is not entrapment as YOU decide how hard you press the right pedal!
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Hey, if people are stupid enough to do, then they forfeit the right to and complain about it.... nothing high and mighty about it....

I dont have the need or urge to race someone at the lights or anywhere at all on the open road.. whats the point? whats it prove? nothing.. people need to take responsibility for their actions and not blame someone else for them being caught.

the only place to race is on the track!
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Hey, if people are stupid enough to do, then they forfeit the right to and complain about it.... nothing high and mighty about it....

I dont have the need or urge to race someone at the lights or anywhere at all on the open road.. whats the point? whats it prove? nothing.. people need to take responsibility for their actions and not blame someone else for them being caught.

the only place to race is on the track!
I agree, but then you get the cops waiting just down the road from the track to hassle people at any major event,A mate of mine got a red defect for a missing grommet on the firewall,In my opinion cops should not have 50 or 60 thousand dollar cars (that we are paying for) hyundais are good enough,the radio is faster than any car anyway.
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a mate was in a servo last night filling up when this BA GT pulled up. he was checking it out when he noticed the red and blue lights in the back window. a cop jumped out and they were having a chat. aparently its a V8 XT with the GT kit on it. all he does is cruise around the traffic and people try to race him thinking its some bloke out for a cruise in this new GT. obviously theyd have about 10 seconds of glory thinking they smoked a GT off the line then the lights come on.

lol. so watch out in sth west sydney.
Hmmm.. are you sure it was a XT with GT bodykit??? i thought you had to own a GT you get bodykit parts? It sounds like allot of trouble and extra expense for the Police to go to for the purposes of what they're trying to achieve, wouldn't it make more sence to just use an XR8?
At least it wouldnt require mods and the resale would be better?
I know for a fact Police WILL NOT try to "drag" you or encourage you to do this. They have a "no chase" policy now..



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The government can do what they like. Especially when they say to Ford Australia, we are buying Holden now. Think Holden will happily supply an HSV kit for a few Acclaims.
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Far as I know, its illegal for them to do that. To provoke/encourage one to break the law, and/or break the law to catch you... etc etc. Entrapment? Or something like that anyway.
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well he didnt (according to my mate) reckon that he encouraged anyone to race him. he pulled up at the lights, they took off fast so he pulled them up. i dont know wether to believe this or not. but i havent seen him in action so i really couldnt say.

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thats what the cop told my mate.

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you can get the whole kit (repro) but ford might do this for the cops? who knows. im just telling you guys what a cop told my mate.

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for the purposes of what they're trying to achieve wouldnt it make more sence to just use an XR8?
yes it would. lol.
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Old 06-09-2005, 05:36 PM   #14
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well he didnt (according to my mate) reckon that he encouraged anyone to race him. he pulled up at the lights, they took off fast so he pulled them up. i dont know wether to believe this or not. but i havent seen him in action so i really couldnt say.
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Far as I know, its illegal for them to do that. To provoke/encourage one to break the law, and/or break the law to catch you... etc etc. Entrapment? Or something like that anyway.
*Cough* Cops driving clubsports with P plates on *cough*

Oh, entrapment is illegal by the way. Do you really think the cops won't get away with it?
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Is it entrapment, or is it a test car????

There are numerous things cops do to get us.

I have seen Merc Silver turbos with shades, reverse sensors, and tow packs. All dressed up like the Mrs Car.

At the end of the day, you are speeding and breaking the law aren't you???

Yes it sux what the bastards do, but we still speed regardless.... :

Just pick who you run and where you speed with caution.
i.e. silly try M4 at Parramatta on a Saturday night :
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Highly unlikely it was an XT with GT kit - i dare say constable plod was having you on. I asked a cop in an unmarked XR6T what he thought of the car - even though it clearly had turbo badges on it, he still said "oh not much, its not a turbo so it's no good".
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There is a smart **** copper down in Wollongong who tries and gets you to race him in his private vehicle ( a BA ute). He then flashes the badge at ya.

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There is a smart **** copper down in Wollongong who tries and gets you to race him in his private vehicle ( a BA ute). He then flashes the badge at ya.

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Thanks Paul, Ill remember that one. A few years ago I did get pulled over by an unmarked commodore with a USC body kit though.
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*Cough* Cops driving clubsports with P plates on *cough*

Oh, entrapment is illegal by the way. Do you really think the cops won't get away with it?
Methinks you've been watching too many American cop and lawyer shows. A cop can quite legally line you up at a red light, initiate a drag and book you for it. That same cop can also dress up in fishnets and high heels and nab you for solicitation when you're cruising for a happy ending on Canterbury Rd. Mr Plod just better shave first. :P
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its not entrapment if he just cruises around waiting for people to drag him... hes not like hes leanin out the window yelling "give ya a drag mofo?"

although its still low and scummy to do that..
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Entrapment is not a defence under any australian law.
If you can prove a course of action that was leading you on you might get some leniency. We are supposed to be adult enough to resist temptation.
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Entrapment is not a defence under any australian law.
If you can prove a course of action that was leading you on you might get some leniency. We are supposed to be adult enough to resist temptation.
If we're going to get technical (which I love doing just to be a sh*t by the way), there would be extreame cases where this would be a defence. Not all cops are on the straight and narrow ya know, they're people too.
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If we're going to get technical (which I love doing just to be a sh*t by the way), there would be extreame cases where this would be a defence. Not all cops are on the straight and narrow ya know, they're people too.
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If we're going to get technical (which I love doing just to be a sh*t by the way), there would be extreame cases where this would be a defence. Not all cops are on the straight and narrow ya know, they're people too.

lol, if you want to get technical.. you are wrong. It's not a defence at all in any way shape or form no matter how extreme. I know more than most what cops are and aren't .. and I am also well aware that they aren't all straight and narrow too. Like any job there are plenty of cretins there too.
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It is amazing the lengths they'll go to. I thought stories of a dumped SS with '000 racing' stickers was pretty extreme, now this! I am surprised they tarted up an XT rather than an XR8 though, it's not like they're too cheap to buy the XR's (i.e. plenty of them out there).
Dunno about it being unfair...if you street race you accept the concequences.

Does anyone know if they use NA XR6's? I got pulled up a while ago and didn't think it was a turbo, but i've never seen a non turbo since. Just curious that's all!


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they do use NA XR6 i have seen 1 around the illawarra and thats it. The way i see it if you race you face the consequences. Also might be a hard point to prove but if you are in the right circumstances you are allowed to accelerate as hard as you want and not get pinged for it (unless you cause a burnout or accident or something because of your actions)
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heheh thats true XA Coupe, but when it comes to cars i dont think any of us could be classed as adults hehehehehe.. otherwise they would be strictly A-B transport devices..
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The Ford guy's get ripped off, the Holden guy's get to do it in style in a HSV GTO coupe, we only get a XT with a kit, lol.
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The Ford guy's get ripped off, the Holden guy's get to do it in style in a HSV GTO coupe, we only get a XT with a kit, lol.

*yawn* You can't sit there and tell me it doesn't happen.

In most cases, you are right, but flat out stating I'm wrong is just naive. If you can prove you were not going to commit the crime had the police not interfered, that's a defence for entrapment (look it up). If an undercover cop was harrasing you and you defended yourself, then he arrested you for assault, I'd say that's entrapment, just as an example.

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Yes I've seen NA and Turbo 6's. Only XR8's I've seen are marked though.
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