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https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-hybrids-surge
Top 10 Brands - Toyota 20,771 +72.7% Ford 8648 +71.3% Mazda 7301 +5.4% Kia 6653 +7.3% Mitsubishi 5314 +19.7% Hyundai 5185 -9.5% Isuzu Ute 4256 +46.6% MG 3781 +9.2% GWM 3330 +50.3% Subaru 3246 +29.3% Top 10 Models - Toyota RAV4 5857 Ford Ranger 5569 Toyota HiLux 4693 Ford Everest 2400 Isuzu D-Max 2380 Toyota Corolla 2097 Toyota LandCruiser wagon 1970 Isuzu MU-X 1876 Toyota Camry 1873 Mitsubishi Outlander 1848 SUVs - 55.7% Light commercial vehicles - 22.0% Passenger cars - 17.8% Heavy commercial vehicles - 4.5% I would have thought Thailand would be the winner here................ Japan 30,320 +35.9% Thailand 22,956 +44.5% China 13,159 -2.0% Korea 12,426 -4.1% Germany 3179 +3.4%
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Pretty handy Ford having their own leased ship
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https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-e...cord-in-april/
Ford Everest sets new sales record in April The large SUV dominated the segment last month, making up almost a quarter of all vehicles delivered in the category. Kathryn Fisk 11:0803 May 2024 Ford Everest sets new sales record in April The Ford Everest has set a new record, with 2400 of the large SUVs finding homes in April 2024. According to VFACTS data released today by the Federal Chamber for Automotive Industries (FCAI) there were 2400 Everests delivered by Ford last month, up from 677 at the same time in 2023 and 2264 in March this year. The result occurred despite increased competition in the segment, with the newcomer Tank 500 outselling the Toyota LandCruiser Prado. April’s stellar result means the Everest has soared past the Isuzu MU-X as leader of the large SUV segment, taking a 24.4 per cent slice of the pie compared to the Isuzu’s 19 per cent with 1876 cars delivered. At this time last year, the Ford only had a 9.2 per cent share of the segment, trailing behind the MU-X at 14.9 per cent, Kia Sorento on 11.1 per cent, Toyota Prado on 10.4 per cent and Subaru Outback with 10.2 per cent. So far in 2024 the Everest is also just leading the way among its competitors, with 6899 vehicles delivered in the first four months of the year (16.7 per cent), compared to the MU-X’s 6730 (16.3 per cent). The model’s popularity comes despite some recent specification changes to the line-up, and that of its sibling the Ford Ranger ute, which involved several key features being removed, while some other new equipment was added for the MY24.5 update in March. While the additions were previously reported in January 2024, Ford has confirmed to Drive that the under-bumper kick sensor for the power tailgate has been removed across the line-up, while the Ambiente, Trend, and Sport variants all lose automatic high-beam – leaving it only on the top-spec Platinum grade. |
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Wow, combined sales of Ranger and Everest were 7,969 or just under 8,000 sales.
That alone is more than third place Mazda with 7,301. How ironic that Mazda’s sales come from “everything else” that Ford can’t supply, what a shame Mazda wouldn’t supply Ford with rebadged versions of popular models.. I’m curious to know what is happening at Toyota, Hilux sales have dropped back while RAV4 soars to top of sales……whatever, Toyota always seems to have the right vehicles at the right time. Last edited by jpd80; 04-05-2024 at 09:09 AM. |
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From Jan 2024 https://www.drive.com.au/news/toyota...mes-to-be-cut/ |
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there’s probably loads of forward orders and ship timings can really skew the numbers we see. For me the up tick in Ranger and Everest are everything I’ve been hoping for but I got myself in a dark place, someone convinced me that the T6 team was being wrapped up in Australia, now I know that’s all BS, I’m excited by the fact that future products won’t be just minor refreshes…. |
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And that leads to a really interesting question. Exactly what have customers been doing the last few months when they walk into the dealership?
There was a bit of chatter recently about forward orders starting to dry up, and then that chatter has gone quiet. Does anyone on the inside have insight as to how customers are reacting the last few months? Have the forward numbers stayed the same or gone down? |
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Toyota have had a rough run with RAV4 production over the last few years. COVID causing general havoc with electronics supply chain. Then an explosion in the foundry in the supplier factory that makes front end components. Then down for a few days because a back end IT server ran out of disk space. Plus the general issues with shipping delays of late.
It looks like the supply tap is a bit more open now. To Toyota's credit, the RAV4 is a good car for the market segment that it is targeting. It has an efficient drivetrain and, for once, Toyota have delivered a vehicle with reasonable roadholding (again, reasonable for its targeted market segment). I think Toyota would sell a lot more RAV4 if people weren't put off by the very long wait. |
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Ford getting their own ship was a good idea. It's probably getting orders easier (from fleets) that they might not have to compete as hard for.
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When was the last time Ford had 2 of the top 4 selling vehicles in Australia?
Falcon &…? Laser maybe? Well done Ford!
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That's 3330 Great Wally's.
Is there a market to resell the badges ??
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Probably Falcon and Territory
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Looking at the top 10 vehicle sales last month, it’s interesting how quickly the sales
drop from plus 5,000 to under 2,000. I guess it shows how much variety we have even with a ~92,000 monthly market. Toyota RAV4 5857 Ford Ranger 5569 Toyota HiLux 4693 Ford Everest 2400 Isuzu D-Max 2380 Toyota Corolla 2097 Toyota LandCruiser wagon 1970 Isuzu MU-X 1876 Toyota Camry 1873 Mitsubishi Outlander 1848 |
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Ford Ute - look at the sales split between Ranger and Everest
7969 between those two and the rest of the numbers split between everything else they sell, with the F150 making a few hundred in there no doubt. |
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Transit Custom. 253 Add them and Ford’s total is 8,395…..closing in on 8,648 |
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If they're not going to bother with the rest of the range, then cull it and put more money into what they do want to sell. Street version of the Raptor that ditches the off road focused stuff and picks up 18-20" wheels, slammed, Michelin Pilot Sport SUV tyres, suspension tuned by the boffins at shockworks etc. 2.3L Ecoboost added to range, and also the hybrid variant of this too. Just cover so much ground and be the Toyota of commercial vehicles. You want a ute, we'll make a ute anyone wants. Something that appeals to me with the current Ranger is how its got stuff for upfitters/second stage manufacturers, customer connection points/aux switches overhead, that shit is the tits for the obligatory work vehicle accessories. It takes out the need for someone like me to hack into the factory loom to get triggers and stuff, run wires through the firewall which is a pain in the vagina on modern cars. Parterships with joints like ARB so customers can collect their vehicle from the dealership completely kitted out how they want ready to go from day 1. I just dislike small diesel engines, the other 90% of it is peak commercial vehicle as a single cab ute. If I was a fleet manager, my crew would be getting around in current gen Rangers or Isuzu N series if we needed something a bit more robust than Thailand Specials. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 04-05-2024 at 03:19 PM. |
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LWB Everest would be pretty awesome
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Why not right - especially if you cull off the other stuff they offer but move nothing of, allows them to put a bit more coin into what they do want to sell.
Curious to see what the current gen Ranger offers over its 10 year or so life span of the platform. |
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Whatever vehicles we have now is it except for a possible future hybrid/PHEV option. And yes, I would agree that filling out the range with more options would grow sales it’s annoying that Ford didn’t offer the 2.3 EB as an option on the Ranger and Everest as they are options available overseas… It’s also annoying that Ford never considered a RHD development of the smaller Maverick pickup Internal dimensions are close to Ranger in a FWD or AWD package that’s way more fuel efficient Last edited by jpd80; 04-05-2024 at 05:48 PM. |
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How many left now?
What I mean is the kind of developments people are asking for like a LWB Everest are just not possible. Glad to be proven wrong on this but Elvis has left the building… Last edited by jpd80; 04-05-2024 at 05:58 PM. |
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What's sad is that engine is offered in the VW Amarok twin but Ford aren't offering it. Madness
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Keep in mind that VW paid Ford to provide this option but limited to ~$80K Adventura Ford has done a great job with diesel Ranger and Everest, Ranger Raptor too and because of that, I defer to their judgement on what they will and won’t add to the Aussie range. Nice to have has never worked as a business case but I’m hoping there’s a way to slip a few EBs into the range.. |
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In Ford Australia form, why stop there? Let's go all in and offer the following off the one platform -
Dual Cab Pickup Extra Cab Pickup Single Cab Pickup Panel Van Coupe Pickup Coupe Wagon Long Wheel Base Pickup Long Wheel Base Wagon Convertible Pickup Convertible Wagon On top of all that, they should only offer the high-priced variants so as to fully separate people from their money.
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Jimny is making Suzuki a great profit in that segment. Launched at $25k, they're now close to $40k and still selling well. A mini Ranger would do well if from a profit margin perspective.
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But these days $60K is the new $30K. Given you can get new Kei trucks at around $25K you'd be better off going one of those if you want some cutesy mini 4x4. |
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Is sales decline the reason why Tesla isn't reporting their monthly figures any longer?
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