Selling a defected car

[HelpMe351]

Hi everyone I'm new here and I'm sorry if I posted this in the wrong section. I have a classic Ford that I acquired years ago, it was defected and swapped a going car for it. Firsty I need to sell it but don't know how to go about it because of the defect. Secondly I need to know the appropriate value of it. It's a Ford XA coupe with GT parts ( it's not a GT) it does have a fair amount of rust, interior is in really good condition. I'm older and not sure how this forum works and hopefully I can get back to my post!

[jaydee]

If it's unlicensed you can sell it if you've handed in the plates.
The purpose of the defect is to have it examined, which is what will happen anyway when new owner has to get it registered.
If it's registered I believe all you need to do is declare it's subject to a defect notice.
When you put in transfer papers, obligation shifts to new owner to deal with.
That's how it works in WA anyway.
As for value, too subjective.
You'll get the usual, "how long is a piece of string" or " what ever someone's prepared to pay".
Rust is the decider, maybe auction it.
Coupes are hot property if they're good.

[HelpMe351]

Thank you

[PG2]

Which state are you in? There are different rules for each state.

How long ago was it defected?

[HelpMe351]

Originally Posted by PG2

Which state are you in? There are different rules for each state.

How long ago was it defected?

It was defected just over 20 years ago, I'm in SA. But it's not in my name.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by HelpMe351

It was defected just over 20 years ago, I'm in SA. But it's not in my name.

I would not worry about the defect notice; the police would not have any records of a bygone era.

[HelpMe351]

You think? I should try and register it. I was going to auction it but the auction house would not accept it being defected

[Citroënbender]

I’d suggest quietly checking the engine and body numbers against stolen vehicle databases across all jurisdictions.

If it passes, and nothing shows up on the PPSR check, then definitely attempt registration. As the car is something of a mutt (but in a good way, it sounds) there’s no point trying to capitalise on the “barn find” mania that seems to apply to vehicles with better provenance.

[XR Martin]

Yeah 20 years ago it won't show on any database unless it's stolen.
Pretty sure in NSW if it's unregistered for 12 months the vehicle gets deleted out of their system, I don't imagine other states are any different.
If its full of rust it might be hard to rego I would think.

[Mont5.0]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

Pretty sure in NSW if it's unregistered for 12 months the vehicle gets deleted out of their system, I don't imagine other states are any different.

What system are you talking about?

[prktkljokr]

Remember that a restoration on something like this can run into the $100,000+ range then what's it worth, not much more than that, Just call Grays, it will go for drug money, and they wont care if its registered going or in 1 piece, only thing is that with a Auction you have to be happy with what you get, as in it might not hit the value you think it is worth.

At the end of the day it will be worth what the highest bidder pays for it whatever that may be.

Keep us posted of the outcome.

[HelpMe351]

It isn't stolen as the last owner gave us the rego paper and defect notice, it was also advertised in the trading post, I have the add cut out from wayyyy back

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by HelpMe351

It isn't stolen as the last owner gave us the rego paper and defect notice, it was also advertised in the trading post, I have the add cut out from wayyyy back

Do you have a receipt?

[HelpMe351]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

Do you have a receipt?

No receipt. we swapped cars. All I have is the last register owners details (rego paper) an old clipping from when they advertised it in the trading post. Also we had to drive the car back home, so we got a permit from motor reg.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by HelpMe351

No receipt. we swapped cars. All I have is the last register owners details (rego paper) an old clipping from when they advertised it in the trading post. Also we had to drive the car back home, so we got a permit from motor reg.

I think you have bigger problems than a 20yo defect.

If its valuable, it will need provenance.
There will be nothing stopping the previous owner or their descendants claiming ownership if you dont have an actual receipt. I suspect an auction house won't want anything to do with it based on that fact.

It's no different than if you had a valuable painting in your possession and couldn't verifying ownership.
Basically it will go back to the last known owner.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

It's no different than if you had a valuable painting in your possession and couldn't verifying ownership.
Basically it will go back to the last known owner.

It doesn't work like that
if it has not been listed as stolen and he has owned it for 20 years, then a quick stat dec will tidy that part up real quick.

[HelpMe351]

Think I might try and register this week. Fingers crossed

[HelpMe351]

It has rust in the boot seal and the (firewall?) It's in great shape and has been garaged for 20+ years. I'm hoping for a decent amount but not too greedy. I have contacted greys but in my state they are not allowed to sell a defected car, which doesn't make sense to me when they sell cars without number plates..

[lra]

Originally Posted by HelpMe351

I have contacted greys but in my state they are not allowed to sell a defected car, which doesn't make sense to me when they sell cars without number plates..

How do they know it is defected, if the SA rego authority don't have records going back that far.
Prove your ownership and be like Sgt Schultz.
If you told them yourself ............ silly you.

[HelpMe351]

Originally Posted by lra

How do they know it is defected, if the SA rego authority don't have records going back that far.
Prove your ownership and be like Sgt Schultz.
If you told them yourself ............ silly you.

I did tell them!! Because I'm too bloody honest...

[Rallye Sport]

Originally Posted by HelpMe351

it does have a fair amount of rust

Originally Posted by HelpMe351

It has rust in the boot seal and the (firewall?) It's in great shape

Which one is it? Rusty or great shape?

[HelpMe351]

Originally Posted by Rallye Sport

Which one is it? Rusty or great shape?

To me it's in great shape, but some people say it's rusty depends on how fussy you are.. can I post pictures on here?

[fordomatic]

Send it to auction, don't tell them it's defected this time.

[prktkljokr]

Look, not to throw fuel on the fire but if the car has been sitting for 20 years, there is no way in gods green earth you will be able to get it registered in a week, just off the top of my head there will be stale fuel, leaking wheel cylinders seized brake components, crusty rubbers, seals etc, time is not a cars best friend I'm afraid and there will be a lot of work that will need to be carried out just to make it run, then there is a heap of work that will need to be done for registration.

[HelpMe351]

Thank you for everybody's help and input. I did bite the bullet and tried to register it, it still has the defect on it so I did not get it registered. I think my only option now is to ebay it as parts only but the car to be sold as whole car.

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by HelpMe351

Thank you for everybody's help and input. I did bite the bullet and tried to register it, it still has the defect on it so I did not get it registered. I think my only option now is to ebay it as parts only but the car to be sold as whole car.

This honestly does not make sense, as presented.

What part of the registration process did you get to?

[HelpMe351]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

This honestly does not make sense, as presented.

What part of the registration process did you get to?

MR1 form, as soon as the worker put in the rego plate number he said its come back as defected. It was defected back in 2001.

[Mont5.0]

Whats the defect?

[HelpMe351]

Originally Posted by Mont5.0

Whats the defect?

The defect was for a sports steering wheel and 1 bald tyre. It was for regency.

[Citroënbender]

Did they advise on how to clear the defect?

By reading the official website, it appears you should be (my summary)

1. Prepare the vehicle to pass a normal inspection for unregistered vehicles.
2. Pay the fee and book your inspection.
3. If required, return (need to pay second booking fee) after remedying all points where the vehicle failed inspection.
4. Register car.