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Old 02-04-2006, 10:44 AM   #1
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I finally got to go to the Drags last night at Willowbank and posted a time of 16.2 fastest run average 16.3 over the 7 runs, was hoping to hit the 15's but main problem was take off first run was with a Falcon xr6 n/a i think he had a lot better takeoff but once I hooked up at around 3000rpm I kept on par with him 2nd run run was with a magna and same thing take off UHHHH. After that me and my little brother faced off giving the old burnouts a good go and as far as I could see we did pretty well in that respect.
What am I to do now to get take off better any suggestions cash flow low at moment so moderate mods only?

Did anyone go to the drags if so what times were posted?
Any pics anywhere?

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Old 02-04-2006, 11:35 AM   #2
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can you post ur time slips, id be keen to know track temp and humidity.

hope you had fun man i remember when my car was stock and going to the track lol.
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Old 02-04-2006, 11:49 AM   #3
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Track temp was 27 degrees and humidity was 45%
60 foot time 2.493
1/8 mile 10.741 at 69.17mph
1/4 mile 16.294 at 88.81
Was fun I know it wasnt the fastest car but who cares when your having fun in the burnouts which was my main aim cos I knew it wasnt fast enough to be a threat.
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Old 02-04-2006, 07:25 PM   #4
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Track temp was 27 degrees and humidity was 45%
60 foot time 2.493
1/8 mile 10.741 at 69.17mph
1/4 mile 16.294 at 88.81
Was fun I know it wasnt the fastest car but who cares when your having fun in the burnouts which was my main aim cos I knew it wasnt fast enough to be a threat.
With a bit of practise i am sure you can improve the 60' which is killing you at the moment.

remeber its all in the launch the TS tells us the car is good enough to do better with a good launch. its just practise. You should be able to get down to 2.3 for the 60' and this will get you into 15.9 at least I reckon.
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Old 02-04-2006, 12:00 PM   #5
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What car do you drive ?
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Old 02-04-2006, 12:02 PM   #6
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Old 02-04-2006, 12:21 PM   #7
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hmmm would have expected better than that from the ba... esp with such good humidity and track temp... interesting

burn outs dont help as ur engine bay temp gets bloddy hot lol
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the mph is there for a 15 of some sort.

Did you try different take off techniques. Personally i take off around 2100 and usse handbrake to limit wheels spin.
Also how did u go about shifting (i assume its manual), did u miss any gears or struggle to engage them?
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Tried taking off normal idle tried taking off at medium stall and heavy stall, is automatic as well, put in per mode and ran in that.
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Good on you for getting out there and giving it a go.

With a bit of practice you'll be able to drop those 60ft times and be well into the 15s.
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Old 02-04-2006, 12:35 PM   #11
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Up to 3000rpm she a slug after that it all go
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Old 02-04-2006, 01:14 PM   #12
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Simply putting the right foot flat on the accelerator and left foot flat on the brake doesnt work. The computer senses undue stress and heat put on transmission and engine and will adjust the position of the throttle (electronic throttle) hence making a dodgy bogged down launch. Best bet for a decent launch that i have found? Foot hard on brake, 3/4 throttle, and as soon as you see that green light ... nail it. Seems to work alright ...

Driving my car, and judging by *** in seat technique, i'd roughly put my car down to a 15.0-15.2 second car depending on conditions, maybe faster ... BA fairmont Ghia, Traction control, Advanced headers, Exhaust, TYphoon lower intake, XR6T upper intake. Might run a bit quicker without 18's on.
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Dan you run with traction control on??
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Hell no ... Its switchable, so i switch it off. The car acts like a total retard with it switched on, just cutting power to the back wheels and carrying on like a spaz.
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yeah i was gonna say, you will lower your times, but u already knew, all cool. Will have to get my beast out onto the track one day, i have never taken it for a run. If magnas get out there im sure i will do ok
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Old 02-04-2006, 06:40 PM   #16
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Keep at it Falcon73 sounds like had some fun, thats important enjoy your car.
Your times will get better.
I ran one of these at Heathcote, stock standard took the spare and jack out had half a tank of fuel ET:15.5 @ 90mph on a 2.45 60 foot, this car was an auto they are very sluggish on take off.

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Keep at it Falcon73 sounds like had some fun, thats important enjoy your car.
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I ran one of these at Heathcote, stock standard took the spare and jack out had half a tank of fuel ET:15.5 @ 90mph on a 2.45 60 foot, this car was an auto they are very sluggish on take off.

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Not a bad time, how much would the spare and jack weigh?

I know someone who has a stock ba xr6 auto, and i mean dead stock, who took it to the drags and ran a 15.1. I'l find out what the 60ft was.
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Not a bad time, how much would the spare and jack weigh?
about as much as my big Stomach..lol.. around 20kgs for both.
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i saw u there falcon 73 was a good night i didnt get that many runs in as we got there later.
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15.8@87.79
60 foot time was 2.35.
my car was running a bit hot there for causing a few probs also broke an engine mount. i cant wait 4 next time lol. i think im hooked
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falcon 73 ,i was out there sat night .wasn't a bad night for it pretty busy though.i seen you run a couple of times .looked like you were getting some bad wheelspin off the line.i had a few runs my first was the best a 15.1 or something ,would have been a bit better but i was short shifting couldnt see the tacho .had the sun in my eyes ,it near blinds you early on in the arvo,
a liitle trick to remember ,is pop your bonnet between runs and try and let it cool down as much as possible helps a bit .if i see you out there next time i'm out ,i'l come say g'day
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What car were you in NIK?
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What sort of wheel and tyre package do you have?
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17 inch Advantix,unsure of what the name of the wheel is on 235/45 federal tyres, why do you ask
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Hey BakerEB yeh saw you 2 but could quite remember if I had seen your pic on the FFsite shall say G'day next time I'm out and your there.
Twos a good night ended up with 7 runs 5 of run against the little brother his was the little lanos with all the stereo crap everywhere, check out the latest fast fours of hot 4s mag hes in the April o6 issue as a feature car
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Here a pic of the 2nd burnout still getting used to the hold and go thing as the night went on the burnouts got bigger I think.
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17 inch Advantix,unsure of what the name of the wheel is on 235/45 federal tyres, why do you ask
I thought if you had a wheel and tyre package that was too large it would slow your launch.
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Next time I wa going to whack on the 14 iin wheels from my trailer so I dont lose any more good rubber, just have to see if they fit on first,should that make take off better?
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i was in the blue au spack ,your not wrong your burnouts got bigger as the night went on .
hows the back tyes lookin?
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yeh theyre good not much gone but any future endevours will be using some stock tyres I think
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