New Mazda BT50 unmasked

[Franco Cozzo]

Well, its still ugly like the rest of Mazda's cars with the current design language.

But its not as ugly at the original based on the PX.

So its newer but makes less power and torque than the outgoing model with Ford's 3.2L I5.



https://www.caradvice.com.au/858500/...arousel&slot=0

https://www.caradvice.com.au/858179/...oms-this-year/

[Captain Stubing]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Well, its still ugly like the rest of Mazda's cars with the current design language.

But its not as ugly at the original based on the PX.

So its newer but makes less power and torque than the outgoing model with Ford's 3.2L I5.

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https://www.caradvice.com.au/858500/...arousel&slot=0

https://www.caradvice.com.au/858179/...oms-this-year/

They've teamed up with Isuzu on this... so I was expecting a stylized tractor. The D-Max's we have at work don't inspire me to buy one.

[naddis01]

[Sam1112]

The styling looks much better than the Isuzu version, I think it even looks better than the Triton too.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Sam1112

The styling looks much better than the Isuzu version, I think it even looks better than the Triton too.

Yeah the Isuzu looks ridiculous, especially that silly front end design.

The Mazda is an improvement. And looks more cohesive than the previous version with it's stupid looking smiley face.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Yeah the Isuzu looks ridiculous, especially that silly front end design.

The Mazda is an improvement. And looks more cohesive than the previous version with it's stupid looking smiley face.

[jaydee]

Sorry Franco Cozzo, but I like it.
Then again, I'm a Mazda tragic.
But a dirty filthy diesel (as I put on my flame proof suit), I hate the damn things.
Wonder if a petrol version might come later.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by jaydee

Sorry Franco Cozzo, but I like it.
Then again, I'm a Mazda tragic.
But a dirty filthy diesel (as I put on my flame proof suit), I hate the damn things.
Wonder if a petrol version might come later.

I hate their current design language, i reckon its a huge step backward from their design language earlier this decade - case in point Mazda 3 MPS.



Had a tougher look, how they're all cutesy and have this BS half soft/passive look about them with squinty headlights that seem out of proportion to the rest of the car.

I'm a Mazda fan too but I'm not a fan of the current design language.

[Giant Cranium]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I hate their current design language, i reckon its a huge step backward from their design language earlier this decade - case in point Mazda 3 MPS.

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Had a tougher look, how they're all cutesy and have this BS half soft/passive look about them with squinty headlights that seem out of proportion to the rest of the car.

I'm a Mazda fan too but I'm not a fan of the current design language.

That’s the worst gen. Stupid smiling faces

[cheap]

The styling is terrible, just old-school fugly.

Tesla's cyberwagon-thingy, that's the future

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

That’s the worst gen. Stupid smiling faces

Its a bit smiley but the headlights are larger and the body is more angular I reckon they're much better than the current gen Mazda 3.





The front looks like someone with constipation trying to take a ****



The back looks like its missing chromosomes.

Bring back the smiley face

[Giant Cranium]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Its a bit smiley but the headlights are larger and the body is more angular I reckon they're much better than the current gen Mazda 3.

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The front looks like someone with constipation trying to take a ****

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The back looks like its missing chromosomes.

Bring back the smiley face

i can't stand the rear 1/4 of that car, so bloated and bla.

mazda stopped being good when the fd rx7 was discontinued

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by jaydee

Sorry Franco Cozzo, but I like it.
Then again, I'm a Mazda tragic.
But a dirty filthy diesel (as I put on my flame proof suit), I hate the damn things.
Wonder if a petrol version might come later.

Hate the damn things too. But the isuzu is the only one in the current range that should do 500k kms.

[Polyal]

A dual cab post mate, I see your coming around?

My first thought is its a very smart design, IMO will eat Amarok sales a bit as its a posher looking DC. The glamour trades will love it.

Good on them.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Polyal

A dual cab post mate, I see your coming around?

My first thought is its a very smart design, IMO will eat Amarok sales a bit as its a posher looking DC. The glamour trades will love it.

Good on them.

I've always been on the dual cab train - just American ones

[Falcon SXR8]

Looks like it might be a good way to get isuzu reliability with a bit more refinement from the mazda side of things.

[UTXR8]

the outside looks like they copied Great Wall Steed.....

[CyberWasp]

Need to see one with flares and bigger wheels.

I am also wondering if there will be a MUX version at some point.

[MITCHAY]

I think it looks ok. I'd prefer a Ranger though if I were in that market.

[SSVPom]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I think it looks ok. I'd prefer a Ranger though if I were in that market.

With a new Ranger (and sister Amarok) due next year offering hybrid petrol and 6 cylinder motors, the Mazda will be back behind the 8-ball again when comparing drivetrains on offer.

[jpd80]

I don't think that the idea was to ever attract Ranger or Hilux buyers in serious numbers but I'll be curious
to see how the new BT-50 settles into the mid field. I'm half expecting it to surprise a few critics by taking
a bit more market share away from Triton, Navara and the departed Colorado. The Mazda corporate nose
is polarising, so most will either like it or detest it but for me, it's a step above the origin vehicle's styling.

I have this image of T6 engineers looking up from their work stations, smiling and shaking their heads,
Mazda said that Ford didn't have the maturity of design knowledge to execute T6, how the mighty have fallen.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by jpd80

The Mazda corporate nose
is polarising, so most will either like it or detest it but for me, it's a step above the origin vehicle's styling.

The outgoing BT-50's styling proved that what appeals on their passenger cars doesn't translate to dual cab buyers. I think by grafting a CX-9 style grill onto a D-Max is going to limit its appeal. Lets face it, a big part of the Ranger's success revolves around the "tuff truck" styling.

Pricing will be a big determiner as to how successful it is.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

The outgoing BT-50's styling proved that what appeals on their passenger cars doesn't translate to dual cab buyers. I think by grafting a CX-9 style grill onto a D-Max is going to limit its appeal. Lets face it, a big part of the Ranger's success revolves around the "tuff truck" styling.

Pricing will be a big determiner as to how successful it is.

The pricing won't be a problem for a middle pack ute, the front looks a little toned down
from the previous fly catcher but clearly, the intent is not to capture Ranger/Hilux buyers
who as you rightly say, prefer the tough look.

Colorado sales void is up for grabs for those who want it and BT-50's new looks could
play well in that respect as well as giving the other brands something to think about.

In the end, it won't matter to Ranger and Hilux because they're way out in front with sales.

[flightstrike]

I’m possibly going to be in the Cab Ute market later this year. The new BT-50 is at the top of my list.

[EDManual]

they have the same old isuzu truck engine isuzu has had for 15 years?

Not that thats a bad thing, I just sold a current shape one a few weeks ago, that I had done 240,000km in and was still perfect. Actually the way the engine runs, its cruisy, quiet and has lazy power over a fairly large range of the revs. MUCH MUCH prefer this engines behaviour to the newer smaller engines like in the Navara. I cant help but think that a dmax 3.0 will go for 500k km without a problem where as a navara 2.2 or ford 2.0 or VW 2.o will be lucky do do half that.

[FTE217]

BT50 finally looks a heap better to me....about time they got out of that woeful 1st gen design front end.
As for the current Maz3, can't agree Franco, test drove one the Astina top of the line with the buying sister on Sunday.
2.5l sounds good but not enough go for me but overall its a very nice daily commuter for types likes my sister.
It was in Pearl White with the black wheels/accents looked pretty good to me.
Interesting feature when reverse parking I noticed, the passenger side mirror tilts down so you can see down the line of the car and gutter, even though it has sensors/camera thought that was a good small addition.
Will be $39kDA, shes a Maz tragic 4th one, never a prob.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by FTE217

Interesting feature when reverse parking I noticed, the passenger side mirror tilts down so you can see down the line of the car and gutter, even though it has sensors/camera thought that was a good small addition.

Which the FG had in 2008 in the G6E.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Which the FG had in 2008 in the G6E.

cheeez, never knew that nor that I can recall anybody here quoting as such.
Wow a G6E had something ahead of its time lol, pity not people bought em, would have loved a G6ET but ce la vie.

[fnp]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Which the FG had in 2008 in the G6E.

Didn't Fairlanes have dipping mirrors far earlier than FG? (I have a feeling around NF/NL days?)

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by fnp

Didn't Fairlanes have dipping mirrors far earlier than FG? (I have a feeling around NF/NL days?)

My NL certainly doesn't.