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15-04-2011, 06:36 PM | #1 | |||
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15-04-2011, 06:45 PM | #2 | |||
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15-04-2011, 06:46 PM | #3 | ||
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They should rephrase it?
People will crash even less now then with just speed cameras?
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15-04-2011, 08:09 PM | #4 | |||
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16-04-2011, 05:55 PM | #5 | |||
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a lot of data is generated after an accident. Personally, I would rather see governments home in on the root cause of most dramas on our roads, and imo, it's the pitiful driving skills of a lot of drivers. We all make mistakes, but some drivers trail a continual miasma of grief as they plough through traffic. If I was Mel Brooks ( it's great to be the king ). there would be checks on cars, competency tests on drivers, and free compulsory defensive driving courses. cheers Steve |
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15-04-2011, 08:23 PM | #6 | ||
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i call the roll out all good news
it also makes it much easier to detect stolen cars |
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15-04-2011, 08:36 PM | #7 | ||
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Am wondering whether or not, the action of changing nr plates on motor vehicles will be reconised by this "awsome" technology. One can still have two cars, and one set of plates. lol.
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15-04-2011, 08:39 PM | #8 | ||
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I'm all for this. They should be rolling out more of these rather than more speed cameras. People who drive unregistered/unlicenced deserve to have the book thrown at them.
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15-04-2011, 08:58 PM | #9 | |||
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There is only ONE diference between registered and unregistered and it involves giving MONEY to the government. As with everything this collection of parasites do, it is all about revenue...... |
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15-04-2011, 09:01 PM | #10 | |||
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15-04-2011, 09:12 PM | #11 | |||
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15-04-2011, 10:25 PM | #12 | |||
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Didn't think that one through did you? The MAJORITY of my cars (and most of my friends' cars) are not registered in the name of a licensed driver....... |
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18-04-2011, 11:18 AM | #13 | |||
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18-04-2011, 12:04 PM | #14 | |||
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30-12-2011, 07:09 AM | #15 | |||
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Who here on this forum would seriously even consider driving an unregistered car ? I am all for this technology . Back in the 80's a friend of mine had a guy in an unregisterd EH holden run into the back of his Porsche 930 , cost him $10,000.00 personally to fix it properly on top of his loss of no claims bonus and subsequent higher premiums . I simply fail to see the negative in the introduction of ANPR cameras . |
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15-04-2011, 09:26 PM | #16 | |||
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15-04-2011, 10:08 PM | #17 | |||
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15-04-2011, 09:18 PM | #18 | ||
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it's known as the trifecta: unregistered, unlicenced and uninsured (3rd part bodily inj)
they often go together so yes it will pick up lots and lots of unlicenced drivers if you can't pay the 'taxes' to drive you shouldn't be on the road plus as i mentioned prev it detects reported stolen cars and bikes |
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15-04-2011, 10:31 PM | #19 | ||
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Oh well. I prefer this over another speed camera.
At least the people caught are knowingly doing something wrong, and not someone who has accidentally slipped to 10km/h over the limit without realizing. |
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15-04-2011, 10:42 PM | #20 | |||
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15-04-2011, 10:45 PM | #21 | |||
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16-04-2011, 11:07 AM | #22 | |||
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This is a huge crime and will cost you a lot of money and maybe your license. If, on the Friday before you were pulled up on your way to a tyre shop to replace your totally bald tyres, they would be just a warning...... Sezzy, not everyone lives in a city..... |
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16-04-2011, 12:42 PM | #23 | |||
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My car is registered in Victoria, expires in Feb, I get it at the end of December - it's really not the way you describe it at all. In fact, It would seem that you are just trying to refute yet another attempt at someone trying to change things, something which is becoming very common, and very old. I know that every time a thread such as this comes up - you will dispute it. No, not everyone lives in a city - but I'm not sure what your point is there... It seems now, that you're siding with those who fail to take responsibility for their vehicle, and yet if an unregistered driver kills someone, you'll probably blame the government for not doing anything. They can't win with you, and I don't think anyone else can either.
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15-04-2011, 11:16 PM | #24 | |||
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Then surely a temporary solution will be set up until its all fixed up correctly. |
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16-04-2011, 10:54 AM | #25 | |||
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Most people do not spend every second thinking about their car and/or have lots of cars due at different times. Without looking when is your drivers license due, your rates notice (or parents rates notice), your passport, and last of all the exact day your rego runs out (and the rego of your parents cars)? The point I was making is that being late paying a tax is the only crime in Australia considered to be worse by the government than murder. The sticker is such a good reminder, especially when it is attached to the broken windscreen you had replaced months before. And of course our SPERS system, tax bullies. Have a fight with the council over something stupid and lose your drivers license UNTIL YOU PAY YOUR TAX. Of course if you want to complain about the unfair fine you can't because in QLD it is now ILLEGAL to contact an elected official directly, that is you are not allowed to ring your local councellor, and the public vegetables do not care. Last edited by flappist; 16-04-2011 at 11:01 AM. |
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16-04-2011, 12:24 PM | #26 | ||
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So flappist, your point is that because these camera's may be used to bring some hardship on someone who's registration is only a few days out - that makes their introduction pointless???
You've got to be joking. Whilst I can appreciate your point that it'd be damn unfotunate for this to occur - and I too would be mighty ****ed off. I also acknowledge that I am an Adult. I am responsible for my own affairs. Regardless of whether I get any renewal notice - it's my responsibility to ensure my car is registered on the road. Also - it's a $600+ bill when it comes, so like my rates notice, insurance and other items that come around anually - I have to prepare for them. Most fortnightly budgets in most households don't have a $600 contingency in them. I totally refute your point that the average joe "doesn't know" when these items are due. If they don't - they are burying their head in the sand to their responsibilites. These cameras are an awesome policing tool. Whilst this article pushes the road rule enforcement aspect of it - that is seriously only the tip of the iceberg. If rolled out property - with mobile units fitted to as many cars as possible - this technology has the potential to be a key factor in not only stolen motor vehicles - but stolen property, the drug trade and detecting other oustanding criminals via their cars. Stats in the UK have shown their warrant clean-up rate has gone through the roof. |
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16-04-2011, 12:18 AM | #27 | ||
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I'm all for this one too. Who says the copper won't let you off with a warning if you are a couple of days late although he shouldn't because the car is uninsured as well as out of rego. This effects others as well if there is an accident. We used to have the court notices in our local paper and plenty of them who were pulled over for even minor offences got the trifecta. As for lost in the mail,it's renewed every year theres a sticker on your car to remind you and it's your responsibility.
Question, in any state is it illegal or will the owner of a car be in any way held responsible if an accident occurs whilst his/her car is in the hands of an unlicenced driver? I can be held liable if I loan my boat to an unlicenced driver.
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17-04-2011, 11:37 PM | #28 | |||
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This is of course if you act responsibility, handing the keys over to someone who you know is unlicenced, drunk etc is not and I would anticipate you'd be crucified in the courts. Its in your best interests if loaning your vehicle to perfect strangers to actually see a licence produced, not sure if you can actually find out from law enforcement if it is still valid though. |
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16-04-2011, 12:35 AM | #29 | ||
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Unreg costs everyone. If there is an accident involving an unregistered car, the injured still can get compensation (a good thing too). However, the fees Suncorp or Allianz or whoever you pay the 3rd party too, has built into it an amount to cover the nominal defendant. Nominal defendant being the uninsured, or unknown driver of an at fault vehicle.
Suncorp et al dont absorb the costs of that, we do. How much cost that adds to the cost of rego (insurance), I have no idea. |
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16-04-2011, 08:48 AM | #30 | ||
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Checking rego plates details has been around for a thousand years
People i knew years ago thought plates of a regoed holden were fine on an unregoed ford They got caught Then ya have the insurance problem 1 day /2 day or a week over rego ,its unregoed end of story Theres a sticker on your car somewhere that tells you what day and month your rego is due IF ya dont get the relevant paper work to renue rego Its generally noone elses problem Even states on rego renewal "The car will be unregistered on XXX day" We dont need to be rocket scientists,its not that hard Its just the same as SPERS taking your licence of you for unpaid fines You drive without a licence its your fault |
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