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16-04-2013, 07:35 PM | #1 | ||
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16-04-2013, 07:38 PM | #2 | ||
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16-04-2013, 07:40 PM | #3 | ||
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They should just name Wheels and Motor GM Magazine their that biased... Needless to say i stopped buying them ages ago and find carsguide more of a realistic opinion.
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16-04-2013, 07:42 PM | #4 | ||
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Bollocks!!!
VE is a good car. FG is way better.
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16-04-2013, 07:44 PM | #5 | ||
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But the Falcon isnt Australian
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16-04-2013, 08:00 PM | #6 | ||
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17-04-2013, 08:10 PM | #7 | ||
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Aparently neither is the VE (according to chev badges/holdenowners)
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18-04-2013, 05:16 PM | #8 | ||
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Bit of a shame, Holden itself place Chev badges onto Commodores.....So strike that one off the list as a good point
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16-04-2013, 07:42 PM | #9 | ||
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What a meaningful award that is... Seems like something they made up. IMO i see it better for Ford, Ford got 2nd for 1 model in the range whereas Olden got it for an entire model designation.
Anywho grain on salt.
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17-04-2013, 08:50 AM | #11 | ||
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They obviously forgot that when the GM bosses came out here in 71 they were shocked at how bad the HQ's handling was, even though it was their best selling holden ever.
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17-04-2013, 09:28 AM | #12 | |||
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In comparison my 75 XB V8 was refined. Why wasn't the XB Falcon in there. That would have been Fords biggest selling Falcon. I think they sold something like 560000 of them, but I could be wrong.
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17-04-2013, 09:39 AM | #13 | |||
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17-04-2013, 10:27 AM | #14 | |||
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I remember the old man had a white XF sedan, last of the run out ones ('88 model).
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17-04-2013, 09:59 AM | #15 | ||
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Yeah they where pretty average drivers, I drove a few of them including a hq statesman, I couldn't believe how badly the statesman drove, an absolute dung box. Fairlane was 10 times better.
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17-04-2013, 10:05 AM | #16 | ||
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Shouldn't have surprised them ... the HQ was all Chevy. Had a 64 Impala come into the workshop, years ago when I still played with hand tools, for repairs to a rear lower shock mount. Customers mechanic sent him to us because the lower mount was rattling from a worn bolt seat. Climbed under to make a start..... crikey .. HQ. Easy to fix ... my HQ, and likely every other one on the road, had the same problem.
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16-04-2013, 07:54 PM | #17 | ||
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This new award seems rather timely, given the bad news which has been emerging about the Commodore's future in recent days.
A cynic might even think Holden might have asked Wheels for some sort of 'return' on their advertising spend, something which could divert attention away from their current media predicament. |
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16-04-2013, 07:58 PM | #18 | ||
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Meanwhile almost anyone else will rate the Territory as the best as it showed ingenuity coming into a booming market segment.
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17-04-2013, 02:03 PM | #20 | |||
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Cant have it both ways, so look forward to the "The Falcon can't possibly be that good" stories you will all be writing on this site, should any car magazine or web site dare to like the new FH. As proof, paradoxically, that you aren't in Holden's pocket. That or the whole conspiracy stuff is mostly baseless, except for one well known auto writer, who isn't liking Ford, Holden, Australian manufacturing or much of anything lately in his quest to get on the front page of news.com. Last edited by DanielXR8; 17-04-2013 at 02:11 PM. |
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17-04-2013, 03:33 PM | #21 | ||
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[QUOTE=DanielXR8;4702240]I trust all you conspiracy theorists will have a suitably dismissive attitude towards any positive review of FH Falcon by the media, as a paid GM advertisement? Why it would be a paid advertisement by GM I don't know, but since everything apparently is according to some, then presumably GM will also pay for a good Ford review too. Or will you conveniently forget the media is in GM's pocket if they say something positive about the new Falcon?
./QUOTE] Look around Daniel .... there's plenty on this forum who are negative of the Falcon.
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17-04-2013, 04:46 PM | #22 | |||
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The FG falcon is by far and away the better overall car. There are many many facts awards and good solid non biased reviews that clearly show this. But they are still built to a budget so im sure anyone will always find something to whinge about. Like how the famously mythed high seating position in fords is unbearable.....like that has anything on the massive pillairs on a VE commodore. Will continue rant if needed |
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18-04-2013, 08:19 AM | #23 | |||
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From what I've found, the seating position isn't much different between the two, but FG seats are softer and more comfortable (in my opinion) the leather seats in VE's feel like Hungry Jacks benches. Ergonomic flaws; VE handbrake, A-pillar and poor rearward visibility come to mind... Fit and finish. FG's aren't the best, but at least they don't have that 'tackle box' feel about them. The plastic marks easy and the texture has a tendency to retain dust and dirt. *end rant |
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18-04-2013, 05:21 PM | #24 | |||
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18-04-2013, 08:22 PM | #25 | |||
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For the Australian Best Car Awards...(the real unbiased peoples awards RACQ) Large class the falcon has won the last 3 years and came second the 2 years before that. The Ve never beat the FG, it never even came second. That alone tells me without even looking into it that there is NO way in hell the VE can be the best aussie car. And you clowns saying this is just a ford forum and that's what youd expect.....well the facts tell the story....who cares about bias. |
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16-04-2013, 08:14 PM | #26 | ||
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I think the terri had too many quality issues to be awarded the top gong, I'd go the fg xr6t I reckon, over the ba. The ba might have been the saving grace for ford, but the fg is the ultimate incarnation of it...
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16-04-2013, 08:26 PM | #27 | |||
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And how the hell did the Charger get in there, they were right up there with the Leyland P76 in handling and poor fit. The steering was like a PS3 game, absolutely no feel. VE is deserved winner .................. Although the cynic in me suggests that Holden (GM) advertises a lot in Wheels Mag. |
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16-04-2013, 09:13 PM | #28 | |||
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The Charger had an excellent race history....Fair call it didn't win the big one, but that's only due to the wheel nuts jamming on the swollen wheel studs. Even then, it came in a respectable 3rd.....And it was only running a 6 banger, not the "big V8".... Add in, it took 30+ years for any Aussie designed 6 cyl to come close to it's quickness....Even then, they needed a turbo to do it. There were also plenty of other innovations with that car, but considering you're biased towards the blue oval, you wouldn't understand....
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