More PC Madness, as Mercedes-Benz Cancels 2022 V8s in the USA.

[stevefreestyle]

Is it April the first ?? Another tragic case of Go WOKE GO BROKE !

As the V8 segment is one of the most profitable for MB, with a huge range of product - and with massive R&D Investment to recoup, the prognosis for MB profitability and even viability would not be great.

A great triumph of absurd Post-Modernist leftist P.C. ideological green dogma over reality.

"The V-8 engine has nearly been jettisoned from the Mercedes-Benz lineup in an instant.

On Friday, Reddit user BSW1234 posted on the /r/cars section that Mercedes suspended all V-8s for the U.S. market for the 2022 model year. The user provided a notice to /r/cars moderators and Motor Authority that was sent on Friday to all U.S. dealers from Adam Chamberlain, vice president of sales and product management at Mercedes-Benz.

Mercedes-Benz spokesperson Anne McGregor told Motor Authority that the automaker has prioritized its focus to comply with global, external, and internal requirements along with facing challenging supply chain issues.

The model year 2022 availability update sent to U.S. dealers stated that "orders and production scheduling for the affected models are suspended, effective immediately." The action applies to all previously ordered V-8-powered 2022 GLE, GLS, and GLS Maybach along with all AMG models.

The only models not affected and that will be available with a V-8 engine for 2022 in the U.S. are the S-Class and Maybach S-Class.

This means there are no 2022 AMG C 63 or 63 S, AMG E 63 S, AMG GT, AMG GLC 63, AMG GLE 63, GLS 580, AMG GLS 63, Maybach GLS 600, and G-Class SUV.

The dealer notice said Mercedes-Benz USA will continue to order 2021 model year G550 and G63 AMG models until the end of 2021 production in December. "Please recognize that this MY21 G-Class volume will be the only volume of G-Class until further notice," the dealer update states.

McGregor refused to say whether the supply chain issues were an issue with chips, turbochargers, or other parts. Nor would she comment on whether any of the discontinued 2022 model year vehicles powered by a V-8 will return for the 2023 model year."


https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...except-s-class

[XRtowcar]

Good on them. Electric cars will replace and outperform them anyway.

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by XRtowcar

Good on them. Electric cars will replace and outperform them anyway.

Apart from the real world issues of Toxic Battery Disposal and Replacement Cost after 10 years, there is another real-world problem or two.

And when everyone in the Brave New World of Electrification are spending 10+hours over Night charging their cars (every couple of days), whilst blowing their Power Bills, and in the context of the rapid ideologically driven elimination of BASE LOAD power stations, where is all the electricity coming from?

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

Apart from the real world issues of Toxic Battery Disposal and Replacement Cost after 10 years, there is another real-world problem or two.

And when everyone in the Brave New World of Electrification are spending 10+hours over Night charging their cars (every couple of days), whilst blowing their Power Bills, and in the context of the rapid ideologically driven elimination of BASE LOAD power stations, where is all the electricity coming from?

Electricity comes from a wall socket...we don't have to worry how it got there or if we plug more things in if it will keep turning up. As I explained to my daughter, it's fantastic to worry about the environment, however we have to recognise if supply cannot keep up with demand you either pay much more or be more practical in your supply sources until supply of the chosen sources comfortably meets demand at ALL times.

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Electricity comes from a wall socket...we don't have to worry how it got there or if we plug more things in if it will keep turning up.

Good one, how true! I forgot, Blackouts only come from when people forget to switch the power point on ! lol!

[five 7]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

Apart from the real world issues of Toxic Battery Disposal and Replacement Cost after 10 years, there is another real-world problem or two.

And when everyone in the Brave New World of Electrification are spending 10+hours over Night charging their cars (every couple of days), whilst blowing their Power Bills, and in the context of the rapid ideologically driven elimination of BASE LOAD power stations, where is all the electricity coming from?

NZ is struggling to to supply power now, we have recently had a rolling blackout with warnings of more, can't wait till everyone plugs a EV in. A genset is on my shopping list.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by XRtowcar

Good on them. Electric cars will replace and outperform them anyway.

I really don't care if if any EV goes faster.

[Dr Smith]

The article doesn't say the models are cancelled, never to return or if it's purely based on lack of supply of components.

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

The article doesn't say the models are cancelled, never to return or if it's purely based on lack of supply of components.

Read it again, Supply issues were ADDITIONAL to other perceived external & internal (policy) requirements "prioritized its focus to comply with global, external, and internal requirements along with facing challenging supply chain issues."

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

Read it again, Supply issues were ADDITIONAL to other perceived external & internal (policy) requirements "prioritized its focus to comply with global, external, and internal requirements along with facing challenging supply chain issues."

So where does it say they will not ever return these models?

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

So where does it say they will not ever return these models?

It doesn't say it will be not be back, just as it ominously omits any reference to a return - or temporary status.

[Dr Smith]

On a side note, how come my power rates went up and my feed in tariff went down?

[stevefreestyle]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

On a side note, how come my power rates went up and my feed in tariff went down?

I think the Greenies call it......Progress.

Welcome to the P.C "Utopian" Future!

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

I think the Greenies call it......Progress.

Welcome to the P.C "Utopian" Future!

I'm of the older gen..whenever I read PC I first think of Personal Computer...

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

On a side note, how come my power rates went up and my feed in tariff went down?

We'll be paying them to take our Solar soon...

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by hayseed

We'll be paying them to take our Solar soon...

Yes, being levied on assessed resource potential is only a matter of time.

At least the V8 Tesla finally got up.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Yes, being levied on assessed resource potential is only a matter of time.

Got to say, glad I'm not connected to the grid. Never run out of power either with the backup bio genset.

[Bossxr8]

CAFE requirements?

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

CAFE requirements?

almost certainly.

[smoo]

MB also released a statement last year in solidarity with peaceful protestors BLM, cucks.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by smoo

MB also released a statement last year in solidarity with peaceful protestors BLM, cucks.

I guess they didn't realise that most Mercedes Benz sold are base models on finance or lease. Not really the rich people they hate.

[Sprintey]

No fun for you!

(*except Maybach owners, different rules apply compared to the peons)

[FTE217]

We're a family of 5cars and no 6 soon enough.
Can you imagine having a EV plug in fight over the charger at home.
Let alone whilst the Mum mobile is getting her overnight oh how wonderful charge no fuss Jnr comes home having burnt out all his power unplugs Mums for a quick boost to get back out and forgets plugging Mums EV back in....then again no 2 might do the same a 3am, where's the face palm.
Oh spare me the battles at home and we need to buy 5 chargers Dad.
Yes ok come on down EV brigade luvers and explain its all figured out....

Woe MB, unreal thats alot of revenue missing in '22.

[Giant Cranium]

Originally Posted by FTE217

We're a family of 5cars and no 6 soon enough.
Can you imagine having a EV plug in fight over the charger at home.
Let alone whilst the Mum mobile is getting her overnight oh how wonderful charge no fuss Jnr comes home having burnt out all his power unplugs Mums for a quick boost to get back out and forgets plugging Mums EV back in....then again no 2 might do the same a 3am, where's the face palm.
Oh spare me the battles at home and we need to buy 5 chargers Dad.
Yes ok come on down EV brigade luvers and explain its all figured out....

Woe MB, unreal thats alot of revenue missing in '22.

That definitely seems like an issue that would resolve itself as you add each electric car to the fleet. People still run out of fuel in their cars 130 years after a cars were invented

I’m building a new garage soon and I’ll add 3phase to it for the eventual ownership of 2 electric cars or for the future owners.

Local government might have to look at installing plug bases into the tops of gutters as they replace them. It’s the only way I can see places like the inner west getting power to cars as less than half of the houses would have garages/parking

[kypez]

Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

Apart from the real world issues of Toxic Battery Disposal and Replacement Cost after 10 years, there is another real-world problem or two.

And when everyone in the Brave New World of Electrification are spending 10+hours over Night charging their cars (every couple of days), whilst blowing their Power Bills, and in the context of the rapid ideologically driven elimination of BASE LOAD power stations, where is all the electricity coming from?

Where to start with this. Do you think a car just shuts down once its out of warranty? Batteries don't just die randomly or as soon as they hit 10 years. This is a common myth. As the tech gets better, they will last longer and companies have found a way to recycle and repurpose 92% of batteries. Example, a car battery can be used for home use after its life as efficiency isn't as big a priority when you have more space.

Costs me $1.10 cents per 100kms to charge off the Grid at the moment and takes around 2-3 hours on average (80kms per hour charge rate). Not 10+.

Originally Posted by FTE217

We're a family of 5cars and no 6 soon enough.
Can you imagine having a EV plug in fight over the charger at home.
Let alone whilst the Mum mobile is getting her overnight oh how wonderful charge no fuss Jnr comes home having burnt out all his power unplugs Mums for a quick boost to get back out and forgets plugging Mums EV back in....then again no 2 might do the same a 3am, where's the face palm.
Oh spare me the battles at home and we need to buy 5 chargers Dad.
Yes ok come on down EV brigade luvers and explain its all figured out....

Woe MB, unreal thats alot of revenue missing in '22.

I'll bite. We have 4 EV's. They charge just fine at home without issues. We have 4 chargers that take care of their needs. Just come home, plug in and they are all triggered to charge when the Super Off Peak kicks in at midnight. They use 64amps which is fine given we have 100amps available. If you have less, just schedule them to run sequentially (one finishes at 2am, the next automatically kicks in at that time). Its not rocket science. Given the range on them, you don't have to plug in every night anyway. Just plug in two at a time for the night if need be if you don't have the infrastructure. Most don't fill a car with petrol every day.

OT, The new C63 is just a terrible way forward. It weighs more than a Model 3, is slower and has the added complexity of a hybrid system. Its madness. If they dump the V8, they should just electrify those models rather than these rubbish Hybrid setups.

[Polyal]

Well they are pulling out of formula E if you want to balance it up?

[FTE217]

Bang on, though running out of fuel never an issue as we know, its set up and no fuss to fill.

As mentioned, how many families gonna afford paying for 3phase, and the mention like living like sardines in the CBD's that have so many parking only on the streets.
Its a long way off this having the structure set to support it.
You can have charging stations here and there but how packed will they be during these stages.

Anyway, give me a ICE V8 AMG anyday back on thread.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by FTE217

As mentioned, how many families gonna afford paying for 3phase, and the mention like living like sardines in the CBD's that have so many parking only on the streets.
Its a long way off this having the structure set to support it.
You can have charging stations here and there but how packed will they be during these stages.

Cost $2k to upgrade to 3 phase at my parents place for example. Not that expensive in the scheme of things.

I've never gone to a charging station that was full yet given most charge at home. Even the Broadway charger given the higher number of cars there hasn't ever been full.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by kypez

Cost $2k to upgrade to 3 phase at my parents place for example. Not that expensive in the scheme of things.

I've never gone to a charging station that was full yet given most charge at home. Even the Broadway charger given the higher number of cars there hasn't ever been full.

sorry bud, you live in a different world.

expecting every household to spend $2k for 3 phase is absurd.

more to the point the grids wont cope, they don't now in summer

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

sorry bud, you live in a different world.



expecting every household to spend $2k for 3 phase is absurd.



more to the point the grids wont cope, they don't now in summer

Again, if you have 5 cars, it's not. It's less than your petrol bill for any one of those cars. If you have 1-2 cars, single phase is plenty.

And I'm not even talking about those with solar or battery backup at home.

Having as many lights as we have now would've been thought to be madness, the AC at almost every new house built, etc. The grid kept up fine. It will again I suggest. Norway hasn't had any major outages and they are very high in EV adoption.



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