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Remember way back when, in the year 2019PP (pre pandemic) when the best value second hand cars used to be Falcons/Commodore? They were always the value for spondoolies equation if you were looking for a nice second hand car, they depreciated pretty quickly and you could always pick up a bargain, was a lot of car for the spondoolies.
Well, looks like those times have changed and anything Falcon/Commodore is basically drug money these days, except maybe the red headed step child Ecoboost Falcon. Looks like some Honda's are good value these days if you want a large-ish car with something decent under the hood (or 'bonnet') 2007 Honda Legend: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...-AD-12188327/? 2011 Honda Accord V6 Luxury: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...-AD-12619345/? Even this thing for the ones who skipped class when they taught prophylactic use: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...12311922/?Cr=3 Whats your thoughts on whats 'great vale' on the second hand market these days? Cars which have avoided the COVID tax? Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 02-05-2022 at 03:02 PM. Reason: fat fingers typos meat pies and Japanese cars |
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set carsales for large sedan min year 2011 and you get pages of commodores & Falcons.
They are still the value proposition for spondoolies maybe chuck a Aurion in there too
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N/A variants dont seem to have 'suffered' the price increases though.
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A friend of mine purchased an VY Berlina V8 in "average" condition in 2019 for $3,000 with rego. Try & find one today for under $10,000. Dr Terry. |
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V8 commodores in same boat as turbo falcons.
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This one is great value.
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But 32k? A BF Ghia with a 3V V8 would be a nice thing to have though.
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How about the Lexus LS460.
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There was an LS430 that went for $13K DA recently at a dealership.
Here's another one relatively cheap, they're a bit old now though. https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...12278667/?Cr=3 LS460 is still relatively expensive for what it is: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...E-AD-7396350/? |
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They seem to be the unloved ones reflected in the price between the LS400 which are starting to dry up and become more appreciated, and the newer LS460. |
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4x4 l300's have increased in price, just thought you might like to know after your l300 appreciation post last week
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My colleague's son was trying to sell a VE SV6 in early 2020, prior to leaving for an overseas study trip and backpacking holiday. He was asking $6K, which I thought was reasonable for the age and condition, and under all the $7-10K dreamers with worse condition cars. He couldn't get anyone to offer more than $4K, and even when he put 12 months rego on it, the best was $4500.
Of course we all know what hit just weeks later, and delayed his plans for over 2 years. He sold it a couple of weeks back for $9K - to the young guy at the workshop who did the inlet manifold gaskets on it in Feb. It made me look at the cheap end of VEs, and even they seem to have all jumped again, so it's not just the V8s. Turbo FGs on the other hand.....with what they're being sold for now, they're already well on the way to becoming the new iteration of the VL Turbo.... |
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I know a lot will disagree and fair enough, but im sticking to it. Particularly in certain specification's.
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There are some VE SS going for low to mid 20ks, that's not bad value?
Or even this Merc E55 AMGs (runs 11s) https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...12562202/?Cr=1
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Harder to find one that hasnt had ten shades of **** beaten out of it though.. As for the E55 , repairable write offs are the lepers' of the car world ![]() Yes probably true although the VL turbo was a fairly short production run whereas the Falcon turbos spread across 14 years or so
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Later model turbo falcons are slim pickings also which is another factor, a lot to do with they didnt sell well either.
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Not able to post a link but TCB Bespoke in Laverton have a BF2 Ghia with only 427km n the clock for $70k.
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https://www.tcb.com.au/prestige-used...-ghia-bf-mk-ii Worth 70K though? Will be interesting to see how long it stays up for ... *edit - are these guys for real though 30K for a 2002 6 cylinder commo ute? https://www.tcb.com.au/prestige-used...nded-cab-vu-ii
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How many normal cars are actually selling at stupid prices though?
I have been looking at Y62 Patrols for a while just waiting for the price to drop. I was looking at one yesterday that said it's Carsales ad was lasted edited in December 2021. If your normal car that's not an unusual classic has been sale for 6+months maybe your asking too much. I sold my 2019 Jimny for more than I bought it for without even listing it officially for sale. Mostly because I wasn't greedy. Yes I saw people asking $50,000+ for a used Jimny, but those were for sale for months before and after I sold mine. |
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FC, are you after a good value luxo barge? Here’s the car for you. ![]() |
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But are you speaking from experience or because your sisters boyfriends uncles stepson had a neglected 320i POS… |
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Six pot Fairlanes seem reasonable value. Although some sellers havent got the memo yet.
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I thought he could step it up a notch. The 12 months with no licence could be spent under the bonnet on that v12.
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![]() Great car, just too bloody slow and no torque under 4000 RPM, had to use the throttle like a switch, on or off to get it to move with some enthusiasm, it also didn't like cutting circles it'd suck oil into the intake after the hard swing ![]() Wouldn't mind another E38 but with an LS1 and 4L60E from a SS Commodore and normal suspension rather than self levelling crapola, would be perfect without all the bull**** European crap, and it'll be able to cut circles reliably ![]() Quote:
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![]() I read somewhere these and the S Class were the vehicle of choice for CEOs and upper management to shuffle them between capital cities when airline pilots went on strike at the end of the 1980s. |
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Not sure what the $$ are to play in this thread but Genesis would have to be a show. 232kw V6, RWD, 8 speed auto? A lot to like
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