Episode 3 on torture test now uploaded

chevypower · 20-11-2010, 03:29 PM

episode 3 on torture test now uploaded.

http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/experiencef150/

remember it's the exact same engine in each episode.

Jason[98.EL] · 20-11-2010, 03:43 PM

wow and we were so scared of this engine here how good is it just keeps going and going

if we do have to get a replacement for the aussie inline 6 i hope we see that baby here

it is incredible that motor has had such a hard time and is still going strong

that is coming from an inline 6 driver even though it is a 98 model

Jason

Bobman · 20-11-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconXV

how can u say that without having tried the V6? It makes more torque than XR6T in F-150.

A V6 engine will always be inferior to an inline 6.

Hence why BMW has the best 6 cylinder engines in the world and Ford's inline is not far behind these days.

chevypower · 20-11-2010, 04:31 PM

Going by that logic, I guess a Holden 186 is better than the Ford EcoBoost V6 then. I wonder why Ford's EcoBoost V6 is so much more powerful and capable than BMW's turbo I6 from the 335i (granted that Ford's is 500cc larger)

This is where that (tortured) EcoBoost V6 engine is right now:

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/11...-liveblog.html

Bobman · 20-11-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

Going by that logic, I guess a Holden 186 is better than the Ford EcoBoost V6 then.

Poor comparison.

You can have your American stuff, but I'll always take the European and Australian inline sixes over a V6 as far as power delivery and NVH goes.

Working on inline sixes is more simple than on V6 engines as well.

chevypower · 20-11-2010, 04:44 PM

I wasn't comparing the two, you said "A V6 engine will always be inferior to an inline 6." I bet you don't have a BMW, so as much as you will "always" take one, you don't actually have one, which is similar to your untrue comment about the V6 always being inferior. Perhaps your definition of "always" is a little different to everyone elses.

And yes, thank you for allowing to have my American stuff. Which includes Ford, GM, the Coyote V8, the 5.4 V8, the Windsor V8, and the LSX engines.

nstg8a · 21-11-2010, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

Poor comparison.

You can have your American stuff, but I'll always take the European and Australian inline sixes over a V6 as far as power delivery and NVH goes.

Working on inline sixes is more simple than on V6 engines as well.

that is such a narrow minded way of looking at things... how can you dismiss an engine you have never experienced?

progress is good...

as good an engine as a 2v 250 was, it is totally outclassed by modern motors, obviously. without progress you get stagnation.

jpd80 · 21-11-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

Poor comparison.

You can have your American stuff, but I'll always take the European and Australian inline sixes over a V6 as far as power delivery and NVH goes.

Working on inline sixes is more simple than on V6 engines as well.

I drove an Edge last year for about 5,000 km in the USA, i would rate the NVH just as good as the I-6.
You can also mount a V6 in East/West or North/South applications, our I-6 won't fit transversely.

In short, I wouldn't be averse to the I-6 going away, not after having driven Ford's new V6s.

99AUXR · 21-11-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

Poor comparison.

You can have your American stuff, but I'll always take the European and Australian inline sixes over a V6 as far as power delivery and NVH goes.

Working on inline sixes is more simple than on V6 engines as well.

power delivery may be smoother on I6 But power will always sway towards V6,
especially when turbod, a twin screw will always beat a single at the same HP,

Dont V engines sound a bit better aswell?

**DJM83** · 21-11-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

Poor comparison.

You can have your American stuff, but I'll always take the European and Australian inline sixes over a V6 as far as power delivery and NVH goes.

Working on inline sixes is more simple than on V6 engines as well.

Its 2010 not 1970, tech has changed.

Thats unreal, the future is bright for Ford thats for sure. I just watched all the videos looking forward to the rest.

drew`SEVNT5 · 22-11-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

A V6 engine will always be inferior to an inline 6.

Hence why BMW has the best 6 cylinder engines in the world and Ford's inline is not far behind these days.

Guess Nissan made a mistake in going from RB26DETT to VR38DETT, then?

Quick, someone get on the phone and inform Nissan of there mistake!

Bad Bird · 22-11-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

A V6 engine will always be inferior to an inline 6.

Hence why BMW has the best 6 cylinder engines in the world and Ford's inline is not far behind these days.

Except in horsepower per kg (generally) and weight distribution.

Ohio XB · 23-11-2010, 01:07 PM

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So far though ... these vids are impressive with the stress testing.
And to tow 5T ... around an oval track ... at full throttle ... and keeping the trailer/load in-line and nice and settled is a big task indeed.

Keeping the trailer in line is an effortless job as it is handled by the Ford Trailer Sway Control feature. As soon as the trailer thinks of misbehaving the truck puts an end to that. It's available on the whole line of F-trucks.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/04...uper-duty.html

As far as NVH with the Ford V6 engines, these things are nothing like V6's of yesterday. Well, even yesterday was pretty good, depending on what you consider yesterday.

I have a 1996 Mercury Sable with the 3.0L 24V Duratec engine, and you couldn't ask for a smoother running engine. And at idle it's so smooth you can't even think of it as an internal combustion engine.

Steve

chevypower · 20-11-2010, 04:57 PM

By the way Bobman, FYI, as I mentioned before, the closest BMW engine, is the 3.0T from the 335i. It's rated at 225kw/400Nm (which is not to be sneezed at), it works out to be 75kw/L and 133 Nm/L. Ford's "inferior" V6 design puts out 270/570, which is 77 kw/162 Nm per L. One is in a truck, the other is in a car that doesn't have to do much work. One recommends regular unleaded, the other recommends premium. I'll let you work out which one it is.

FPV8U · 20-11-2010, 07:57 PM

For anyone knocking the EB V6 they need to open their eyes, it would have made a great replacment for our 4.0L I6 T and in the future im sure it will.

TURBOTAXI · 21-11-2010, 07:18 AM

The torture test vids are amazing, what a great advertising angle - why dont ford Australia do something like that?

cheap · 21-11-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TURBOTAXI

The torture test vids are amazing, what a great advertising angle - why dont ford Australia do something like that?

I'm going to have to disagree, the adds especially the one hauling the timber on a gravel road, achieve very little. Just about any 4x4 or even a car with a LSD and decent tyres could probably make those logs skip across that "hard surface". Hardly a test just slick marketing.

Give me one of these new F150 + 2000kg load + Stockton Beach and then they would be thoroughly tested.

tex · 22-11-2010, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cheap

I'm going to have to disagree, the adds especially the one hauling the timber on a gravel road, achieve very little. Just about any 4x4 or even a car with a LSD and decent tyres could probably make those logs skip across that "hard surface". Hardly a test just slick marketing.

Have to say I'm with you on that one - the log pulling segment.

The average punter will still be impressed by it, as they have never hooked a vehicle up to a tree trunk.

As for the dyno runs, and the trailer tow at 90 mph for 24 hours - that's far more impressive show of durability imo.

Not to take anything away from the idea behind this campaign, as I believe it is a good one, and should hit the mark with it's intended market.

**Falcon Coupe** · 21-11-2010, 09:37 AM

Thread split as the torture test has turned the topic.

Very impressive I must say.

jpd80 · 21-11-2010, 09:48 AM

Yes, Im looking forward to the next few installments,
Ecoboost versus competitors and the Engine Teardown...

SM1DY · 21-11-2010, 10:52 AM

I've been hanging out to see this 3rd ep. Is there a schedule of when each video is getting released or even how many videos there are???

**DJM83** · 21-11-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SM1DY

I've been hanging out to see this 3rd ep. Is there a schedule of when each video is getting released or even how many videos there are???

It says along the bottom, head to head, baja and teardown. Dont know the timeframe for release though

Windsor220 · 21-11-2010, 11:23 AM

Whats with the V8 exhaust note when it takes off?

**DJM83** · 21-11-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Windsor220

Whats with the V8 exhaust note when it takes off?

I did notice that aswell.

jpd80 · 21-11-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Windsor220

Whats with the V8 exhaust note when it takes off?

Dubbed in sound track...
Love of NASCAR dictates than when you have a NASCAR track there must be a V8 revving
even if that has nothing to do with the story.......

Ohio XB · 21-11-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Dubbed in sound track...
Love of NASCAR dictates than when you have a NASCAR track there must be a V8 revving
even if that has nothing to do with the story.......

Sorry, not dubbed in. True, it is not a V8, but it is 365 HP and 420 lb. ft. of torque, and it is still power. Here is a 0 to 50 to 0 MPH run. It's on the inside but the engine does not sound anemic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeuT1...eature=related

The turbos run ceramic bearings that are water cooled to be able to take the temperature extremes.

Incidently, my wife builds these engines.

Steve

Franco Cozzo · 21-11-2010, 01:12 PM

I love how in the previews for the engines they have all the CGI, it looks really good even though its computer generated and how it shows you inside the engine and how it works.

**Mechan1k** · 21-11-2010, 05:33 PM

Wow ... I'm actually impressed.
Ford have really excelled of recent times with engine development ... with the new Coyote/Miami line-up .... and now these EB engines.

So far though ... these vids are impressive with the stress testing.
And to tow 5T ... around an oval track ... at full throttle ... and keeping the trailer/load in-line and nice and settled is a big task indeed.

Hope the F-series makes it back to Australia ... I think we are missing them over the last few years when they stopped them here.

XCwillo · 21-11-2010, 06:38 PM

The engine beats any 6 cyl engine we have here in Aus full stop
now i want to buy an F-150 :|

MexicanBatman · 22-11-2010, 02:34 AM

Only V6 I like is the Detroit diesel in one of the push out tugs at work, other than that particular V6 its inline all the way for me, and nissans quoted above aren't a fair comparison there is a massive capacity difference, but IMHO no 6 sounds nicer than an inline dohc be it barra JZ or rb