Ba XR6T on P's in Vic??

RUENVS_BA · 06-02-2008, 07:01 PM

Hello everyone, im only new to the forums after selling my Vt commo a few weeks back. I am now looking at getting a XR6T and want to know if any other P'platers from Victoria have had problems with the boys in blue whilst driving one....

Thanks

Wayne

bangm001 · 06-02-2008, 07:09 PM

If its stock then you shouldnt have any problems providing you abide by the law! But they will keep an extra close eye on you i am sure!! (Sorry im in SA tho)..

Parfrey · 06-02-2008, 07:14 PM

most likely won't be covered by insurance if ya crash and i think it's 3 demerit points these days for driving a high powered vehicle... even if you got your P's before all the new rules came in.
Other than that i don't get much attention in a BA xr6 ute with a loud exhaust, lowered etc. (i'm on my P's)

Kawasakirider · 28-06-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Parfrey

even if you got your P's before all the new rules came in.

I don't know about victoria, but I'm on my red P's in QLD. I am on some new laws, but I know for a fact that the people on the old laws only have to abide by the laws that were in place at the time they took their test. E.g, they don't have to wear P plates, have no power restrictions etc.

daniel_rossy · 06-02-2008, 07:14 PM

Legally, your not supost to have it, my mate debadged it, his girl friend drives it and she is on her P's, been pulled up alot, never been asked. even when he had turbo badges on she stil drove it, got pulled up, never said a thing.

DBourne · 07-02-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel_rossy

Legally, your not supost to have it, my mate debadged it, his girl friend drives it and she is on her P's, been pulled up alot, never been asked. even when he had turbo badges on she stil drove it, got pulled up, never said a thing.

were they too busy inspecting the shirt potatoes?

sikford · 07-02-2008, 07:53 AM

i have lost count of how many p-plater's i have seen drivin xr6t's, i wouldnt mind one but the way some ppl drive there cars is ridiculous. no wonder they're bringing in all these new laws.

Tobey · 07-02-2008, 09:15 AM

No insurance if you stack, and if your caught there goes your license. Is it worth $30,000+ if your crash?

daveyf · 07-02-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sikford

i have lost count of how many p-plater's i have seen drivin xr6t's, i wouldnt mind one but the way some ppl drive there cars is ridiculous. no wonder they're bringing in all these new laws.

I'm sorry but that is a generalization and quite a naive view... To say that the reasons these laws are coming through is due to the behavior OF SOME XR6T owners is ludicrous... correct me if i am wrong weren't there more cars impounded for hoon laws that were not on their P's and were driving more Holden Commodores... Now my view on these so called new p plate laws are that they will not save lives and will not slow p platers down, all they will achieve is a bandage solution to a very large problem... and that bandage solution will be a couple of bureaucrats and news organizations smiling and saying to themselves wow we are making a difference by shifting the blame for our large road toll on to younger drivers.... The bureaucracy has gone mad in relation to P plate laws , all the government is doing is using P platers as a scape goat and along the way conning the naive public into believing that it will make a difference....

XA-MONT · 07-02-2008, 09:51 AM

well just a s a guide, i never had any drama's with the boys in blue whilst driving my XB ... and even non car people would be able to work out that its a V8 its that loud and beefy sounding.

the only comments ive had from police relating to the car is "nice car"

but the only times ive been pulled over is at bretho point or just RBT's never for doing anything stupid. im sure if they pulled me over for doing something stupid it would be a different case all together.

BTW im not on my P's since about 3 weeks ago

stockel · 07-02-2008, 11:57 AM

If he is not covered by insurance he would be screwed if he damaged property.

Also when he loses control and kills someone people might care about this technicality also.

daveyf · 07-02-2008, 12:08 PM

In my second year of driving my xr6T picked it up cheap from the auctions this time last year and have been driving it on my P's ever since... Insurance is a bit rich through just cars 2300 premium and 2000 excess.. though is still less than a wrx which premium is about 3900... I also believe that it is having respect for the car and its power, i have never performed a burnout or street raced in the T , though i have learnt to respect its power through my driving... Also in my three years on my P's i learnt to drive in a 2004 WRX and a Gen 3 SS thus why my respect for the power of high powered cars is greater and my awareness of there potential i believe i some what understand...

p.s. I am also legally allowed to drive the T due to an exception from VicRoads that i require the car for work purposes

stockel · 07-02-2008, 12:18 PM

Yeah I thought P platers couldn't drive these cars, therefor thought you wouldn't be able to get insurance, however we know how much insurance companies like money so I guess they won't say no.

daveyf · 07-02-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stockel

Yeah I thought P platers couldn't drive these cars, therefor thought you wouldn't be able to get insurance, however we know how much insurance companies like money so I guess they won't say no.

Just Cars insurance just love money... They don't give a stuff, if you pay them the money, well at least thats how it were when i insured my car last year.... i will tell you one hundred percent when my new policy comes through....

lilscotty1987ba · 16-02-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stockel

Yeah I thought P platers couldn't drive these cars, therefor thought you wouldn't be able to get insurance, however we know how much insurance companies like money so I guess they won't say no.

they wont so no ITLL u hit something! thet'll just say but u where driving it illegaly so u sort it out, been there done that!

my cousins xc cobra repli couldnt pull up in time and bumped the back of a brand new merc that pulled out in front of him and they said that cause u where driving the car illegaly u have to foot the bill! so he took it to court and eventaully got them to pay after 9months!

just think about power to weight and kws to weigh ratios! u have to be under on both, not just 1, so i found out with a 351 on gas in an xc ute! a 5.8lt motor has to be in a car that is about 1850kgs!! that makes for 1 hell'va impact!!

MitchG · 16-05-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by daveyf

p.s. I am also legally allowed to drive the T due to an exception from VicRoads that i require the car for work purposes

can you please explain how this works?

GORDZ · 07-02-2008, 01:59 PM

i was pulled over in my xr6 ute and the cop asked to see under the hood becuase he was convinced it was a turbo... had a look down the radiator and asked where i hid the intercooler... then he saw the twin throttle bodies and was like "so thats the noise is it?"

he loved it and let me go, but if it was a turbo i don't think i'd have been as lucky.

my oppinion, stick it out and get the T when you're off your P's. Insurance will want far too much for it until then. (if they'll cover you at all)

Falcon_Power_06 · 07-02-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GORDZ

i was pulled over in my xr6 ute and the cop asked to see under the hood becuase he was convinced it was a turbo... had a look down the radiator and asked where i hid the intercooler... then he saw the twin throttle bodies and was like "so thats the noise is it?"

he loved it and let me go, but if it was a turbo i don't think i'd have been as lucky.

my oppinion, stick it out and get the T when you're off your P's. Insurance will want far too much for it until then. (if they'll cover you at all)

i sort of wish i waited untill i was off my p's and got a turbo but then again ill probably just get one when im off me p's

Parfrey · 07-02-2008, 07:44 PM

I rang an insurance company and asked about insuring an XR6t a while back and they said yeah no worries... then i told them that i'm not allowed to drive it on my p's and asked if that was ok, they said no and they can't insure me. so if i didn't say anything they would have happily taken my money.

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if your unlucky enough to crash into a building or something else and do millions of dollars worth of damage, i don't think they'll be paying.

stockel · 08-02-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xhxrsix

I rang an insurance company and asked about insuring an XR6t a while back and they said yeah no worries... then i told them that i'm not allowed to drive it on my p's and asked if that was ok, they said no and they can't insure me. so if i didn't say anything they would have happily taken my money.

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if your unlucky enough to crash into a building or something else and do millions of dollars worth of damage, i don't think they'll be paying.

Exactly what I expected.

Shaggzy · 07-02-2008, 03:07 PM

How long till you get off your p's??

GORDZ · 07-02-2008, 03:56 PM

on the 14th, ironically thats the day i lose it for 6 months. Insurance is gonna love that.

marcel syawish · 07-02-2008, 09:50 PM

ei mate im on my ps and dad gave me his ba GT, havnt had any trouble yet

I FluXx I · 17-02-2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by marcel syawish

ei mate im on my ps and dad gave me his ba GT, havnt had any trouble yet

your dad just gave you a GT??

And how do you have a 2006 BA GT?

GORDZ · 08-02-2008, 04:08 PM

then, they only give it back when you get your story on ACA or TT

hot_mini · 16-02-2008, 02:20 PM

im from nsw. just got my green P's and a ba xr6. being insured through dads work for $900 a year. wouldnt want to think of how much a turbo would be

boss-290 · 18-05-2008, 05:35 PM

How are you P platers affording these cars?

Bobman · 18-05-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by boss-290

How are you P platers affording these cars?

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Too much money to burn these days, generous parents or just hefty loans and years of debt.

I've seen two BA XR6 Turbos sell recently. Both manuals. One went for $13,500 and the other one went for $14,600. Both had 200,000kms.

I thought I was rather chop when I got my BA in early 2005, with the head turns etc. I was one of few p platers in a BA, but they're everywhere now. I was lucky though and bought it as a repairable write off (only had 10,000kms). Fixed it up all myself and had it for 3 years.

I still wonder how all these kids get these cars though.

MitchG · 18-05-2008, 07:26 PM

you can get a decent BA XR6T for around 20k-25k even cheaper depending on its condition & K's, but its really not a massive amount for a young adult with a steady well paying job & not to many other commitments.
Granted there are alot of spoiled kids who are lucky enough & their perants have brought them a new car. but for alot of other young people they have to work hard & save. But for a young car enthusiast who is after the car they love, 25K is not an unachievable goal!

boss-290 · 18-05-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MitchG

you can get a decent BA XR6T for around 20k-25k even cheaper depending on its condition & K's, but its really not a massive amount for a young adult with a steady well paying job & not to many other commitments.
Granted there are alot of spoiled kids who are lucky enough & their perants have brought them a new car. but for alot of other young people they have to work hard & save. But for a young car enthusiast who is after the car they love, 25K is not an unachievable goal!

I think you're living in a dream world.

The only way to get a car worth that amount is either through finance or their parents have put up the cash.