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View Poll Results: do you care / what are you doing about it | |||
i dont really care | 92 | 88.46% | |
i donate money for planting trees | 2 | 1.92% | |
what do i owe to the enviroment? | 7 | 6.73% | |
i purchase carbon credits | 3 | 2.88% | |
Voters: 104. You may not vote on this poll |
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03-02-2008, 03:23 AM | #1 | ||
lpg = big boom!
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of late,
i decided to sit down and work out how much impact "i" as a person have on this world just in what i do, and in the passions i have... i just want to get a little consensus on what people are doing about it (if anything) and also what people think our responsibility as enthusiasts is to do to protect what we have before Australia goes natzi like the "uk" with congestion charging based on emissions ect
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03-02-2008, 03:41 AM | #2 | ||
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Well at this stage our family owns 2 V8 falcons, a 6cyl falc, a 6cyl diesel patrol, an econovan and a pulsar. so im guessing we would be having a negative effect. Do i care, well yes. But are we going to sell the V8's not on your life. I guess it comes down to are you willing to sell your pride and joy to drive a Prius, the answer is NO!
Whats your views BeStRaFe?? Cheers Phil. |
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03-02-2008, 11:08 PM | #3 | |||
lpg = big boom!
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but i took a look and a review of where i just waste power/fuel/money.... i love my gadgets... i have a multitude of "nitro methanol" rc cars i drive alot, an aweful lot in my falcon however any car i own i get converted to lpg, 1+ for the cost 2+ its cleener burning, 3+ its still cheaper :P but just looking at things like insted of using my leaf blower to clean the driveway actually using a broom and not using aircon / leaving my beast of a computer on for the sake of leaving it on... i just wanted to get an idea of what people are doing to see if i may ba able to get some ideas
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03-02-2008, 03:47 AM | #4 | |||
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At this point in stage i dont care about the carbon footprint. Im young and yes im ignorant but eh i aint selling my V8 for a electric car, hehe.
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03-02-2008, 07:56 AM | #5 | ||
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in australia electric cars are no better for the environment as when you charge them the power required, our powerstations are not clean and it produces more pollutants then the petrol the car would normally burn. this was in the newspaper.its amazing as its something you wouldnt think of
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03-02-2008, 08:12 AM | #6 | ||
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There are many things the government does that cause my carbon footprint to be large.
The public transport here is an ABSOLUTE JOKE. Thats probably the biggest issue in terms of pollution, cars on the road, as well as trucks. Fix this, and perhaps myself and most others would be bothered to bus or train it places... I had a house mate living with me, his return weekly ticket was $41 to the city... this was almost half or what I was charging him rent! What a bloody joke... We just blew almost 100 million on a new fangled ticketing system, (that never got implemented) and many hundreds of millions on new fangled trains. The Tangara's would have been fine if they ran on time and were more reasonably priced. Happy to drive....... |
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03-02-2008, 08:47 AM | #7 | ||
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I walk and use public transport where i gan, but mainly for economic reasons. It costs me $36 PF on the bus, it would be $77 not including petrol to drive. I don't at this stage purchase carbon credits or similar. Electricity derived forms of transportation energy (i.e. hydrogen, flow battery etc) could be generated using excess power from intermittent renewable energy, i.e wind, solar etc.
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03-02-2008, 09:38 AM | #8 | ||
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A bowing 747 on a trip from Melbourne to Sydney (1 hour flight time) puts more pollution into the air then what my GT will in 6 months of hard daily driving, so give me a brake on the carbon foot print rubbish.
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03-02-2008, 09:42 AM | #9 | ||
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we don't have a public transport system here, so using my cars goes without saying. when governments all over the world get serious about genuinely trying to be "environmentaly friendly" instead of jumping on bandwagons and signing documents that mean nothing, then maybe, just maybe a lot more people may become more environmentaly careful themselves. first box for me.
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03-02-2008, 10:01 AM | #10 | ||
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I don't really care about my carbon footprint, my birthday is on National Tree Day and I don't owe the environment anything. I never rain on it when it's walking somewhere without a brollie, and I never put spider webs with huge fat spiders right in the middle of the footpath so they land on your face, and I never start natural disasters, so no, the environment can get stuffed. That, and carbon credits are just a silly way to shift the blame for pollutiuon, and are far to indirect at targeing the cause, and that is lowering greenhouse emissions.
All this from a very successful Geography student. ;) |
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03-02-2008, 12:08 PM | #11 | ||
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If the govt cares petition the world in reducing the emission from
USA India China and then come back to OZ |
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03-02-2008, 12:20 PM | #12 | |||
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Everything I do to help is cancelled out 10 fold by other countries. So, why bother? Cheers Darran
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03-02-2008, 10:43 PM | #13 | ||
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i voted i didnt care
but doing our part reduces the effect, it does not get cancelled out as they are constantly producing the amount the do (assumption) and we reduce ours therefore total being reduced (in theory) im not about to go out and buy green coles bags, they steal enough of my money, or sell the falcon for a prius (it looks like 5&$& FFS), plant a tree, as i hate them, or not use my aircon, its way to hot not too, but i do switch unused lights off and always taken 5min showers, hey i even NOT flush the toilet unless its number 2 or guests are over.....what do i get? increased electrical bills, fuel prices increase, groceries cost most, temp gets hotter, level 3 water restriction so i cant wash my car when i want to......stuff the planet i live how i want if it kills the earth we all deserved it!
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03-02-2008, 11:17 PM | #14 | ||
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Guessing comp.. Pick the countries who should be trying the hardest to reduce emissions
Carbon footprint? Oz might just have a Carbon toe!
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03-02-2008, 12:49 PM | #15 | ||
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I off set my CO2 emissions with greenfleet and offset my plane travel with credits purchased through VirginBlue. I buy energy efficient appliances, flush my toilets/wash my clothes with rain water. You can do your bit without any big impact on our love of cars. I think global but act local. Eery bit counts
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03-02-2008, 01:28 PM | #16 | ||
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It's not that I really don't care, It's that I think that all this carbon thing is a huge farce. It really does not matter what we humans do the influence of us putting carbon in the atmosphere is far too small to have any significant effect. pollution is a totally different thing though and some people tend to get the two confused.
And for the record I think in a few years when the climate cycle changes this will either all go away, or we will be bombarded with "global cooling" instead. |
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08-02-2008, 10:07 PM | #17 | |||
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The global threat? You guessed it, Global Cooling! GK
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03-02-2008, 02:24 PM | #18 | ||||
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i just wish to put this in to there is a glasier in theup greenland or somehwere like that which is melts will let more CO2 out from the dead animals and stuff then what we as human do in few years i think i cant reme,ber the exact time though it was huge. so it not really just us doing it.
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03-02-2008, 03:29 PM | #19 | ||
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Volcanic eruptions sprout for greenhouse gases than humans can, and we've been short on those. But I do my bit, my two cars run LPG, I take the train to work and I have several hundred trees on my property.
However, read this article and perhaps it's not global 'warming' we should be concerned with. http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=2659
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04-02-2008, 08:23 PM | #20 | |||
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03-02-2008, 04:38 PM | #21 | ||
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Well i do care about the environment, the Hole buying carbon credits or taxing us for it is a load, we already pay enough Taxes and when you boil it all down it's another way for people to make money.
what gets me is allot of these people who jump on the enviro band wagon have either been in a position previously where they could have actually done something constructive about it or there lifestyle puts out that much carbon it makes us "Bad guys" look good but it's ok cause they are that rich thay just offset it buy chucking some pocket change into Carbon credits. That is what gets me fired up with this topic, cause once again it's the Average person who feels it in the hip pocket and in there everyday living, and it's the average person who ends up living greener well all the windbags talk green but they still got there 70ft boat that sucks 300 litres a hour.
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03-02-2008, 05:19 PM | #22 | ||
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As with this thread here which i started a little while ago:
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...te+change+hell I couldn't give a RATS GRASS
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03-02-2008, 07:49 PM | #23 | ||
Long live the GT !
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hahahahaha "carbon footprint"
got any other jokes?.....
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03-02-2008, 07:55 PM | #24 | ||
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our dumpies chew 6000 plus litres a day so i guess im neutral
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03-02-2008, 08:16 PM | #26 | |||
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03-02-2008, 07:52 PM | #27 | |||
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I'm more worried about the 600 million dollars the war in iraq costs each day. Let alone the pollution that creates.
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Hopefully, i should have lots of evidence at the end of this year to bring up a valid argument due to Environmental Science. Until then, i can't argue without getting myself owned in the process, because its going to be a 500 vs 1 fight.
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03-02-2008, 08:01 PM | #29 | |||
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