Shit. Huge suspension bill :(

4lex · 04-02-2005, 02:32 PM

Took the falcon in to Pedders for a quote to fix the clunking noise from the front today - the quote is frightening:

- Both front shocks leaking and u/s - 385.00
- Both front springs sagged, 45 and 50mm N/S and O/S - 180.00
- Play both ends of rack - 595.00
- Radius bushes in chassis collapsed - 180.00
- Tyres all worn beyond legal limit - 396.00
- Rear shocks leaking and u/s - 205.00

Grand total 1,941.00

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OK, the rack doesn't feel overly slack, so I'm going to cross that off. Tyres I already know about of course, and have budgeted for that. Front springs can wait, no doubt plenty of serviceable ones appear on eBay for very little from those who've lowered. Leaves me with four dampers and the radius bushes.

Reckon I can manage dampers no problem, but I don't know what bushes they mean, or if it's possible to replace them without a press? Any suggestions on how to trim down the costs well received!

Cheers,
Alex

EFFalcon · 04-02-2005, 02:34 PM

don't bother...
pedders are great for ripping you off.
fix what u think is ACTUALLY wrong

Racecraft · 04-02-2005, 02:42 PM

A trip to the wreckers to find 4 shocks that are not wet ie leaking will save you a bucket load of cash.

Pedders pfffft!

Walkinshaw · 04-02-2005, 02:44 PM

I got a $3750 quote from Pedders. Absolute joke. I replaced every suspension componant, ALL bushes, new king SL springs, new shocks, ball joints, everything, cost me $1k all up. LOL@pedders

4lex · 04-02-2005, 03:17 PM

Cheers guys, suspected as much. I imagine they have to recoup the costs of their 'free' 28 point suspension check somewhere.

Will AU XR6 springs/dampers/struts fit?

Cheers,
Alex

4lex · 04-02-2005, 03:21 PM

thinking of these if they'll work? What's live back end? does that mean wagon? Is there such a thing as an XR6 wagon anyway?

**Raptor** · 04-02-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 4lex

..... What's live back end? does that mean wagon? Is there such a thing as an XR6 wagon anyway?

Live back end means solid axle. These were the norm in sedans up until BA when Control Blade rear suspension became the standard (IRS optional on AU). Live axle is of course still in the ute and wagon but riding on leaf springs.

" They will fit from EA to AU111 with a live rear end. "

That doesn't sound right to me. I thought at least the front struts were different in the AU from the E-series.

Potential buyers be warned!

Kryton · 04-02-2005, 03:59 PM

yeah id be going somewhere else for a second quote. dont tell the next joint what pedders found either and see if they can find the same things wrong.

Sundeep · 04-02-2005, 04:16 PM

If I were to do that stuff, this is what I reckon it'd cost. You can do everything bar the radius rod bushes at home.

- Both front shocks leaking and u/s - $150 the pair brand new roughly
- Both front springs sagged, 45 and 50mm N/S and O/S - $15, I have some in the garage
- Play both ends of rack - $75 from Pick a Part or $100 at a wrecker
- Radius bushes in chassis collapsed - $100.00 at TTF Bayswater, had mine done recently.
- Tyres all worn beyond legal limit - $170.00 I have a set of 4 fitted and balanced 14s.
- Rear shocks leaking and u/s - $150 of so brand new?

That $610 or less than $500 with GSH (Good Second Hand) shocks.

Let us know if you want some springs or 14s.

Sundeep

4lex · 04-02-2005, 04:21 PM

Mate, that sounds great, but you're in Melb aren't you?

4lex · 04-02-2005, 04:48 PM

Thanks for that mate. Anyone else got thoughts one whether they'll fit? Would probably be a nice upgrade for the money if they'll work!

XR Martin · 04-02-2005, 05:51 PM

Raptor is correct. Front-end is different on AUs.
Rears the same though

sphell · 04-02-2005, 07:11 PM

That's a joke....just do it yourself apart from the bushes. They need a press.

LUXO_8 · 04-02-2005, 08:05 PM

series 1 AU struts will fit E Series - series 2 on is different

4lex · 04-02-2005, 08:10 PM

Stupid question removed.

Smoked · 04-02-2005, 08:28 PM

Man, pedders up to their usual rip off tricks. I reckon i should go down there and get a quote off them just for the hell of it.

LUXO_8 · 04-02-2005, 08:35 PM

one thing i will say for pedders, they are thorough on their checks.... just their prices are way high...

MrFlibbles · 04-02-2005, 09:59 PM

pedders employees are told to quote for a complete changeover rack if something like the rack ends are worn, these can usually be replaced cheaply with quality aftermarket rack ends, yes the inspections are thorough but i believe that the bits should be put in an order of impotance.
It is a shame that the Pedders stores are viewed as rip offs but if the cap fits they have to wear it... it pays to shop around, even if all you do is get the suspension check and then do it all yourself (or as much as possible!)
The product that they supply is usually of very good quality, and i still use it even though i no longer work for them.
Well thats my winge out of the way!
There are more than one suspension suppliers around......

Racecraft · 04-02-2005, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1994xr6

The product that they supply is usually of very good quality, and i still use it even though i no longer work for them.

There are more than one suspension suppliers around......

I thought Pedders didnt manufacture jack shit. They buy bulk volumes of gear from the manufacturer Tenneco and paint them red and yellow? Tenneco also make Monroe etc so Pedders is nothing more than a franchise business designed to make one man very weathly, Tony Pedders... I am not really knocking the store owners as from what I've heard they have to mark up heaps to make it a viable business for themselves..

4lex · 04-02-2005, 11:19 PM

PLEASE -I don't give a fu<k about pedders!! Just need to get my car safe!

So the AU1 struts will fit? Looks like my existing struts have a steering knuckle on them, whereas the ones pictured in the ebay ad do not? Are the knuckle collars removeable, or am I barking up a wrong tree here?

Thanks,
Alex

LUXO_8 · 04-02-2005, 10:11 PM

well i have pedders springs in my car, and had a full pedders sportsryder setup in my last car - XF ute

mate is a manager at pedders, i get my stuff done on the cheap.

4lex · 04-02-2005, 10:44 PM

Yeah, thanks for the responses on Pedders - I gte now that they are the choice without thought of the wallet!

My question now is really, will AU XR struts go on???

Cheers,
Alex

LUXO_8 · 04-02-2005, 10:51 PM

depending on what model AU, yes.
like i said AU1 struts will, anything AU2 onwards wont

LUXO_8 · 04-02-2005, 11:20 PM

the upright / stubaxle and the strut are entirely differnt things.

what exactly needs replacing on your car......

4lex · 04-02-2005, 11:26 PM

Ah shit, I dunno. The damper is shot, as is the spring (in my language). What I mean by damper is the oil bearing cylinder which slows the compression/expansion of the spring. The spring (this must be universal??) is tired and running low

Thanks,
Alex

Racecraft · 04-02-2005, 11:37 PM

You need springs and shocks thats it... AU series 1 units are listed in the Kings catalogue as a different part number.. EA-EL ones are all the same though

4lex · 05-02-2005, 12:03 AM

Will that lot on eBay sort me out though? Sorry to sound stupid, but I just don't know the terminology here!

XR Martin · 05-02-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 4lex

Will that lot on eBay sort me out though? Sorry to sound stupid, but I just don't know the terminology here!

Only the rears!
The fronts wont fit