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Who cares, it's our country and we'll do what we see fit for our own people.
You know what's a huge driver for environmental damage and climate change? Overpopulation of the planet. But I haven't seen anyone address that huge elephant in the room? I reckon if we stop pulling in 500,000+ migrants into Australia every year we'll reduce our environmental impact as a country by having sustainable population growth. |
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Just make some A.I. self learning bot Android thingys and just DONT code them to not hurt humans. Won't take them long to realise the greatest treat to humanity. . . . Is humanity. Last edited by PG2; 26-02-2024 at 03:05 PM. |
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We’re not fostering practical infrastructure or initiatives that mitigate single-occupant use of cars.
Reducing migration could allow transport infrastructure to catch up with housing spread, and genuine decentralisation would also work wonders (it always fails because the top dogs want an office at the perceived big end of town). Snobbery against regional Australia is a real impediment. Firm steps to globalise our trading economy by committing to genuine, mandated “24/7 precincts” could also work - many people’s tasks are not needed to be bound by the clock or working week. That could take a huge bite out of traffic jams. |
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https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/pe...ecords%20began. Temporary visa holders were the largest contributors to arrivals in 2022-23. Of the temporary visa holders, the largest group was international students (283,000). Other temporary visa holders include working holiday makers (70,000) and temporary skilled (49,000). |
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Really wanna say something but I'm already in trouble
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Dirty... not in the slightest.
Let's deal with China and India first, what they put into the atmosphere and their soils (type and quantity) make what Australia does look like one of my morning farts after a night on the turps. Vast swathes of both China and India are so heavily polluted (both atmospheric and soil), it would take an act of god/Buddha/Krishna/Dave from accounting, to clean it up. Fecal matter like that "story" serves one purpose, to guilt people into swallowing the green agenda without giving a second thought, hell any thought, to the tripe they are pushing on the world. |
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How people refer to other people that have the appearance of another nationality when in private is their business, however, AFF will not tolerate that sort of behaviour. As aussieblue alluded to in now a deleted post, it is not just an AFF rule it is the law. |
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I tried to edit it. And apologise in advance for the term
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Before we get all high and mighty about India and China, they actually pollute quite low per capita. It is that they have huge populations from being older civilisations. Australia and especially USA have grown much more rapidly. Who knows how India and China would've fared today had the Brits not stuffed the places.
The focus on CO2 is also only part of the pie as well. No, I don't feel dirty living in Australia but we'd be wise not to let it get to that point before we think we need to act.
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Whilst their per capita numbers appear to be low, even if they are accurate they are very quickly catching up to the US and Europe. When that happens (and with the actual nasties they emit like it was going out of fashion), Australia won't even be a statistical margin of error entry. |
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We are tiny on the global scale but I'd hate to see our air quality even remotely get to the levels of US cities or many European cities.
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HCs & Oxides of Nitrogen, along with Diesel particulates are a hazard to humans. Dr Terry |
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Yep. That's what I was alluding to with my comment as well about CO2 being only part of the story. But building a world for plants might be at the exclusion of us.
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I know no one reads the truck threads on this forums...
but here are my thoughts on diesel and where it all went wrong. The post was showing a large old simply diesel engine which can easily run on Coconut oil or many other variants against another picture showing a complicated electronically controlled diesel bogged down with all the modern emission systems of today. My whole point about the simplicity of the diesel engine and what the man (Rudoph Diesel) who designed and built it for was to run on coconut oil and veggie oil. Once the petroleum industry got hold of it and ruined the original concept, we now have this problem which really didn't exist until we made it up. Imagine if manufacturers and governments followed the principle of developing these natural farmed oils as the engine was intended for, instead of going down this route of completely stuffing up its designed efficiencies and smothering it in electronic BS it didn't need. Its a well proven fact bio fuels and natural oils can run these engines well and economically but no we had to go down the stupid human path of over complication to fit an agenda. Seems most of society will just follow what governments, big pharma and corporations, to tell them how to live, what they think they need to know and nothing more. I'm sticking with mechanical injection and bio fuels thanks. Euro 5 6 7 can blow. It's just another case of going down the wrong path imo. We had plenty of chances to build a strong biodiesel economy in the country by growing the fuel here and becoming fuel independent of imports. Yes but this will take away valuable food land to grow it Other countries have successfully grown Jatropha, sunflower and Rape seed crop on infertile farm lands away from coastal rain fall regions using pumped waste water inland to supply the crops. Yes but it still takes away land for food Last time I checked 100s of millions of acres of valuable farming land was destroyed under the guise of growing a product which is p*ssed up against the wall every weekend and only serves one purpose, getting drunk. Somehow this became a necessary industry and not a secure fuel source for Australia. As for sugarcane do we use it for much ethanol production in Oz ? So personally I don't feel dirty.
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I'm all for reducing real air & water pollution, but all this "Climate Change Emergency" rubbish has got way out of hand. The whole Al Gore Climate Change fiasco just keeps the climate nazis in employment & the working population poor. Dr Terry |
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It's like saying water is needed to keep you alive. Yes it is but if you drink to much, you can/will die. |
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Yes we have a big problem with air quality in Australia.
One of these photos shows Australia's largest and dirtiest city compared to another countries largest and dirtiest city. I can see the problem. ![]() ![]()
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years ago Adelaide university 'proved by research' that meat pies where the most nutrisonal thing that any human could eat.
prooving that any research can be biased towards the benefactor. Id suggest the same goes for the first statement. Who promoted it? who financed the 'research'?
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I don’t think that anybody who has even a rudimentary understanding of science can really believe that climate change is not happening and that it’s not and issue for all humanity. See https://www.inverse.com/science/6143...change-deniers and https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1019082702.htm etc for more.
I do feel guilty and a little dirty about my petrol driven cars. But EV's are not the answer in terms of the being “green” either https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/ev-e...rint-1.5394126 etc. It would be nice if we could a better way to use hydrogen from water as our planet has plenty of that and it doesn't have to clean or salt free to make hydrogen. Of course getting hydrogen from water by electrolysis is a trivial exercise; the problem is that in most applications the energy used for the electrolysis exceeds the energy that can be generated by a motor using the hydrogen so produced. In my view, solar powered bulk hydrogen generation would seem the best option for Australia. Certainly there is yet no (and in my view never likely to be) any practical and efficient way to produce hydrogen in a car to be used to power its’ own ICC engine. The big problem I think is that both of our major political parties are captured by the sponsorships they receive from the coal, oil, gas and other fossil fuel producers and their associated polluting plastics industry. If some of billions being spent on ineffective defence strategies that will just enrich foreign aircraft, submarines and other ineffective defence strategies (see /listen to today’s 7am podcast https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/...g-the-military ) was spent on a National solar/hydrogen green energy strategy I think we could turn things around. Yes we need a new defence strategy but I don't think either parties proposal are what is needed. We also need to tighten up on the existing rules and clamp down on those who modify their vehicles making them dirtier by removing catalytic converters, ERG and DPF systems etc. I have never seen WA EPA or WA Police do a roadside test of cars yet. Yes, I know the fossil fuel industry is a big employer (especially here in WA) and export earner but there is a bigger picture we need to address.
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But There is no evidence that man-made carbon dioxide is the cause of a warming planet. It is only a theory. Let's not confuse carbon with pollution. 100 years ago every scientist on the planet agreed with Eugenics until they were mugged by reality. The same will happen with global warming/climate change/global boiling. |
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Science evolves as facts are discovered. Things like satellites have helped significantly measure the changes in the atmosphere. Here's a good link, will help many forum members here at a level they will understand ![]()
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