Skills shortage again!!!

[scoupedy]

Everytime i read that there is a skills shortage in the Engineering/ mining industrie i get very angry. I spent 5 years studing and trying to work my way through a Engineering degree parttime, and i got not one bit of help from the University to the Government, ATO and my employer.

If i worked one day a week i would loose all my astudy, then at the end of the finiacial year when i was expecting a $2k return i would get a $3.5k hecs bill when i havn't even finish my degree and only earning $32K per year.

The University didn't care that i had to work on saturdays and would set exams, the girls in the class got pushed through and helped more than the men. example: one girl got to resit an exam because she failled!!!! everyone else would have to pay again and wait six months. Five girls had easier asignments set when studing Mechanical desktop due to it being to hard for them, when at the same time i couldn't even get a extention (the only one i ever asked for).

Finally i have applied for many mining jobs and have never even had a reply, they never train anyone. I looked at over a hundred truck driving jobs and they all wanted two years experience driving the exact trucks that they use- so they are only interested in stealing workers from other companies or importing people.

In short the mining companies ,government and universities cause this problem, and just want to import labour.

University is still for the rich, mining conpanies don't give a **** about the country one bit and lecturers are only there for themselves and most wouldn't pass a basic english test, girls and international students are looked after in the Engineering departments (they need girls to look good and international students pay more) I had an international student asking me basic chemistry questions and he was in third year!!!! how did he get thier!!! without passing at least two chemistry subjects.


THEY JUST WANT TO BRING MORE MIGRAINT

[zdcol71]

Have a chat with Sarinna Russo ,I'm sure her employment agency would love to help you out.

[scoupedy]

Originally Posted by zdcol71

Have a chat with Sarinna Russo ,I'm sure her employment agency would love to help you out.

yeah job agencies they were a good idea- I have been sign up for MAX employment here in cleveland and in over a year they sent me ONE job leed and that was when i was in hospital with a broken leg and on sickness benifits

[Jim Goose]

In short the mining companies ,government and universities cause this problem, and just want to import labour.

We are part of the "global free market".
Cheap slave labour, more profits.
(A few years ago some building firms were caught out using "slave" labour here in Australia, mostly philipino/ vietnamese migrants on work visas who were living 20 and 30 people to a donga in very 3rd world conditions and being paid peanuts)

[ELGT4me]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

We are part of the "global free market".
Cheap slave labour, more profits.
(A few years ago some building firms were caught out using "slave" labour here in Australia, mostly philipino/ vietnamese migrants on work visas who were living 20 and 30 people to a donga in very 3rd world conditions and being paid peanuts)

It 's still happening, a heap of Australian boilermakers were made "redundant" on a job here in Karratha, they were FIFO Workers. Guess what they were replaced with? Imported labor from the "Asia" region, these workers are allegedly paid the same as the FIFO Workers, but are charged for the wonderful "donger" accommodation, as they are no longer FIFO Workers that saved the company airfare costs. The other racket going, is the commissions paid in their home country to the "employment service" that got them the job over here, naturally the employment service gets paid @ the Australian $ rate. One day both governments will wake up to this little "earner"

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by dave289

Sick of this crap while they take jobs from our kids, F O. Thats wot I think about migration. migrate somewhere else. go wreck someone elses home, and to the dogooders you know where you can go.

interesting perspective on life....

im a migrant, and i fail to see how ive wrecked anyones home?
i started work the 2nd week i got here, and have worked none stop since then, i pay my taxes, and we have spent plenty setting up ourselves here.

seems to me some want jobs and stuff handed to them on a platter, without having to work for it. and when it dosnt come their way its easier to blame others, rather than look at their own short comings.

[dave289]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

interesting perspective on life....

im a migrant, and i fail to see how ive wrecked anyones home?
i started work the 2nd week i got here, and have worked none stop since then, i pay my taxes, and we have spent plenty setting up ourselves here.

seems to me some want jobs and stuff handed to them on a platter, without having to work for it. and when it dosnt come their way its easier to blame others, rather than look at their own short comings.

The problem is I would have no problem if every migrant was like you but unfortunately that is not the case, they are often uneducated, have never been and speak no engli . they get there whole family on the dole, how is this good for australia, they are taught the rorts before thay get hear and deliberately take advantage of our weak system. If migration could be controlled and implemented properly that would be great, but is uncontrolled and not implemented properly. If you want to hear more about the effect of migration on our country nstg8a send me a pm and I'll give you the rundown.

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by dave289

The problem is I would have no problem if every migrant was like you but unfortunately that is not the case, they are often uneducated, have never been and speak no engli . they get there whole family on the dole, how is this good for australia, they are taught the rorts before thay get hear and deliberately take advantage of our weak system. If migration could be controlled and implemented properly that would be great, but is uncontrolled and not implemented properly. If you want to hear more about the effect of migration on our country nstg8a send me a pm and I'll give you the rundown.

i dont like being picky, but it doesnt help your argument that migrant workers are uneducated when your posts are full of spelling and punctuation mistakes

[dave289]

Originally Posted by BOSHOG

i dont like being picky, but it doesnt help your argument that migrant workers are uneducated when your posts are full of spelling and punctuation mistakes

You are being picky, is that all you have to add, are you just trying to keep your post count up boshog. going by your post count and the short time you have been on hear and with this last post it is quite obvious you jibber to much ,you should get out a bit more mate. as for my spelling I used to be top of the class and can show you awards if you wish from primary ,I'm now 40 as of saturday ,dont use spell check and sometimes could not be bothered to change it just for people like you, I'm not being marked on it and dont bow to the forum like people like yourself ,who thinks their building some sort of reputation that actually means anything. now run off and annoy somebody else if you must keep that post count going and please dont annoy me again with such dribble. your posts dont use capital letters to start a sentence and yet you want to complain about punctuation. pm me next time you have a similiar problem so it does not have to go on someones thread.

[JC]

Originally Posted by dave289

The problem is I would have no problem if every migrant was like you but unfortunately that is not the case, they are often uneducated, have never been and speak no engli . they get there whole family on the dole, how is this good for australia, they are taught the rorts before thay get hear and deliberately take advantage of our weak system. If migration could be controlled and implemented properly that would be great, but is uncontrolled and not implemented properly. If you want to hear more about the effect of migration on our country nstg8a send me a pm and I'll give you the rundown.

Ironic how someone who can't spell can have a go at people who allegedly can't speak!

[JG66ME]

Originally Posted by JC

Ironic how someone who can't spell can have a go at people who allegedly can't speak!

Nail, head, hit.

[ELGT4me]

Originally Posted by JC

Ironic how someone who can't spell can have a go at people who allegedly can't speak!

My friend , you do not gain access to the mining game, through your spelling abilities, that work is reserved for the 9 till 5 ladies in head office. It amazes me how someone who is firmly established in the ACT, can comment on the mining game. Been to the Pilbara, Goldfields, Hunter Valley, Bowen Basin have we ?

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by dave289

Ironic how some feel the need to keep their post count up by jibbering crraaap. going by your post count you must of spend 3 years non stop on this site alone,I was going to flame you but now I just feel sorry for you.

Give it a rest, and this goes for everyone else aswell. Back on topic

[Kryton]

Originally Posted by dave289

Sick of this crap while they take jobs from our kids, F O. Thats wot I think about migration. migrate somewhere else. go wreck someone elses home, and to the dogooders you know where you can go.

And are you Aboriginal are you?
Think you might find that at some point your family were migrants too.

[FGII-XR6]

Originally Posted by davway

And are you Aboriginal are you?
Think you might find that at some point your family were migrants too.

if you want to be pedantic the Aboriginal people are migrants too, they are belived to have arrived in Australia 40,000 years ago(yes thats a long time ago but they too arrived and settled here) I see no problem with a sustainablr number of migrants but when they are shiped in to work cheaper than Australians it undermines the rights of our workers. this is just business making more money by cutting out Australian workers by using slave labour, I find this immoral and see a genuine need to stop this practice

[dave289]

Originally Posted by davway

And are you Aboriginal are you?
Think you might find that at some point your family were migrants too.

No I'm not aboriginal. The aborigines did not make this country the desirable place that it is, the first settlers did. They came hear and made this country what it is today ,with their way of life and values, the aussie way that we used to now that is now being burried by people who come hear and want to change our way of life. The greeks and italians came hear many years ago as migrants and also helped this country become what it is, thay worked hard, embraced aussie culture and way of life and did not try and change the very things that made this place what it is. Most modern migrants now start there own community somewhere in one of our suburbs ,have no intention of attapting to our way of life or saying hello in the street.I could go on and on but could not be bothered.

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by dave289

*charming sentiments removed*

*excitable adjective removed* you are whats wrong with our great country, you should realize that a majority of migrants come to this country the right way, follow the rules and ADD to our communities. maybe you should do more reading to go along with learning basic English, just those migrants have to.

[Fled74]

FYI, I'm a migrant who's been here less than 8 years. I came here under a skilled worker visa, only to find out when I arrived that my 3 years' real-world experience in I.T. and web development didn't mean diddly-squat unless it was with an American company. Coming from a third-world country like the Philippines, it was like turning in a blank resume with my job applications.

Being on permanent resident status meant I was not eligible for financial assistance for two years, and I could not afford TAFE. So I basically took any job that came along and busted my *** for 5 years, doing the crap jobs that "white people are too cool to do themselves" , until I got the job I'm doing now (pallet control for a big transport company on just $47K a year). So I didn't come over here just to be on the dole and be a burden on taxpayers.

As far as I know, I haven't taken any jobs from anybody - I've actually given regular long-term work to several casuals who needed it.
Unlike a lot of migrants who barely speak English, I can actually pass for a Skip on the phone, and unlike a lot of migrants I actually made an effort to assimilate. I got my Aussie citizenship four years ago.
I pay my taxes on time and contribute to society.

In fact, I've never encountered statements like yours, Dave, anywhere except on here, where people are mostly anonymous. All the other Aussies I've encountered are very open and welcoming. So there's no need for that kind of attitude here or elsewhere. Like it or not, migrants are a fact of life these days.

[RG]

Originally Posted by Fled74

FYI, I'm a migrant who's been here less than 8 years. I came here under a skilled worker visa, only to find out when I arrived that my 3 years' real-world experience in I.T. and web development didn't mean diddly-squat unless it was with an American company. Coming from a third-world country like the Philippines, it was like turning in a blank resume with my job applications.

Being on permanent resident status meant I was not eligible for financial assistance for two years, and I could not afford TAFE. So I basically took any job that came along and busted my *** for 5 years, doing the crap jobs that "white people are too cool to do themselves" , until I got the job I'm doing now (pallet control for a big transport company on just $47K a year). So I didn't come over here just to be on the dole and be a burden on taxpayers.

As far as I know, I haven't taken any jobs from anybody - I've actually given regular long-term work to several casuals who needed it.
Unlike a lot of migrants who barely speak English, I can actually pass for a Skip on the phone, and unlike a lot of migrants I actually made an effort to assimilate. I got my Aussie citizenship four years ago.
I pay my taxes on time and contribute to society.

In fact, I've never encountered statements like yours, Dave, anywhere except on here, where people are mostly anonymous. All the other Aussies I've encountered are very open and welcoming. So there's no need for that kind of attitude here or elsewhere. Like it or not, migrants are a fact of life these days.

Statements like this prove that you don't have to be born here to be an Aussie, and just because you are born here doesn't make you an automatic Aussie.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Fled74

FYI, I'm a migrant who's been here less than 8 years. I came here under a skilled worker visa, only to find out when I arrived that my 3 years' real-world experience in I.T. and web development didn't mean diddly-squat unless it was with an American company. Coming from a third-world country like the Philippines, it was like turning in a blank resume with my job applications.

Being on permanent resident status meant I was not eligible for financial assistance for two years, and I could not afford TAFE. So I basically took any job that came along and busted my *** for 5 years, doing the crap jobs that "white people are too cool to do themselves" , until I got the job I'm doing now (pallet control for a big transport company on just $47K a year). So I didn't come over here just to be on the dole and be a burden on taxpayers.

As far as I know, I haven't taken any jobs from anybody - I've actually given regular long-term work to several casuals who needed it.
Unlike a lot of migrants who barely speak English, I can actually pass for a Skip on the phone, and unlike a lot of migrants I actually made an effort to assimilate. I got my Aussie citizenship four years ago.
I pay my taxes on time and contribute to society.

In fact, I've never encountered statements like yours, Dave, anywhere except on here, where people are mostly anonymous. All the other Aussies I've encountered are very open and welcoming. So there's no need for that kind of attitude here or elsewhere. Like it or not, migrants are a fact of life these days.

now thats what i like to hear..especially that you can pass as a skip on the phone.

top post fled..

[|||]

Originally Posted by Fled74

FYI, I'm a migrant who's been here less than 8 years. I came here under a skilled worker visa, only to find out when I arrived that my 3 years' real-world experience in I.T. and web development didn't mean diddly-squat unless it was with an American company. Coming from a third-world country like the Philippines, it was like turning in a blank resume with my job applications.

Being on permanent resident status meant I was not eligible for financial assistance for two years, and I could not afford TAFE. So I basically took any job that came along and busted my *** for 5 years, doing the crap jobs that "white people are too cool to do themselves" , until I got the job I'm doing now (pallet control for a big transport company on just $47K a year). So I didn't come over here just to be on the dole and be a burden on taxpayers.

As far as I know, I haven't taken any jobs from anybody - I've actually given regular long-term work to several casuals who needed it.
Unlike a lot of migrants who barely speak English, I can actually pass for a Skip on the phone, and unlike a lot of migrants I actually made an effort to assimilate. I got my Aussie citizenship four years ago.
I pay my taxes on time and contribute to society.

In fact, I've never encountered statements like yours, Dave, anywhere except on here, where people are mostly anonymous. All the other Aussies I've encountered are very open and welcoming. So there's no need for that kind of attitude here or elsewhere. Like it or not, migrants are a fact of life these days.

good post. i'd take thousands of hard workers like you over lazy "aussies" with "F-off we're full" stickers on their rusted out cars.

[Fled74]

Thanks everyone, and to keep the thread on track, I agree with the original poster's sentiments. Whenever I hear about skills shortages I get frustrated - in my case I was granted a visa because of my skills in a certain field, but when I finally arrived here I couldn't get any work in that field unless I brought my skills up to the "Australian standard."
I couldn't do that because I wasn't eligible for financial assistance to pay for TAFE courses. That led to a lot of disillusionment.
In my mind the government was only compounding the problem - bringing in skilled migrants despite not having any jobs we were qualified for. Both population and unemployment were increasing at the same time. This was back in 2003, but it's obviously still happening today.

[burnz]

their is no skill shortage...

most ppl leave their trades due to that they can earn more as a labourer.
trade wages suck in this country...

[scoupedy]

Originally Posted by burnz

their is no skill shortage...

most ppl leave their trades due to that they can earn more as a labourer.
trade wages suck in this country...

Yeah i have two trade qualifications that arn't worth the paper they are written on
dO NOT STUDY/WORK IN THE OPTICAL BUSINESS UNLESS YOUR AN OPTOMETIST

[GTpilot]

Originally Posted by burnz

their is no skill shortage...

most ppl leave their trades due to that they can earn more as a labourer.
trade wages suck in this country...

Very narrow minded view.

Thats is the problem with the curent generation of uni and TAFE graduates. They think it is their right to walk straight into high paying management positions because they have done 4yrs of classrom learning and know everything.

Fact is grasshopper - You don't know crap!

You have no practical business operations knowledge and you have no real world industry work experience, you also do not know how to deal with people. Therefore, you get put at the bottom half of the ladder. you get dis heartend with your starting wage, because it's not what you see advertised on seek for the more senior positions you believe you deserve because you think are capable of doing them. So off you go to dig holes for a living because the casual rate is better at the time.

Wake up sunshine, in 10 -15 yrs time your graduate mates will be earing triple what you are digging holes appling their trade/degree, by this time they WILL know what they are talking about, they will be in management positions or own their own company, because they got in at the bottom and stuck through the continued learning that is required.

Don't talk to me about skills shortage, talk to me about young peoples attitude to the corporate ladder and the resultant wages.

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by GTpilot

Very narrow minded view.

Thats is the problem with the curent generation of uni and TAFE graduates. They think it is their right to walk straight into high paying management positions because they have done 4yrs of classrom learning and know everything.

Fact is grasshopper - You don't know crap!

You have no practical business operations knowledge and you have no real world industry work experience, you also do not know how to deal with people. Therefore, you get put at the bottom half of the ladder. you get dis heartend with your starting wage, because it's not what you see advertised on seek for the more senior positions you believe you deserve because you think are capable of doing them. So off you go to dig holes for a living because the casual rate is better at the time.

Wake up sunshine, in 10 -15 yrs time your graduate mates will be earing triple what you are digging holes appling their trade/degree, by this time they WILL know what they are talking about, they will be in management positions or own their own company, because they got in at the bottom and stuck through the continued learning that is required.

Don't talk to me about skills shortage, talk to me about young peoples attitude to the corporate ladder and the resultant wages.

great post. rep given

story of the bad decisions ive made in life. now im going to tafe and uni (as soon as im ready) to make up for the POOR decisions i made because i wanted a quick buck straight out of school

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by GTpilot

Very narrow minded view.

Thats is the problem with the curent generation of uni and TAFE graduates. They think it is their right to walk straight into high paying management positions because they have done 4yrs of classrom learning and know everything.

Fact is grasshopper - You don't know crap!

You have no practical business operations knowledge and you have no real world industry work experience, you also do not know how to deal with people. Therefore, you get put at the bottom half of the ladder. you get dis heartend with your starting wage, because it's not what you see advertised on seek for the more senior positions you believe you deserve because you think are capable of doing them. So off you go to dig holes for a living because the casual rate is better at the time.

Wake up sunshine, in 10 -15 yrs time your graduate mates will be earing triple what you are digging holes appling their trade/degree, by this time they WILL know what they are talking about, they will be in management positions or own their own company, because they got in at the bottom and stuck through the continued learning that is required.

Don't talk to me about skills shortage, talk to me about young peoples attitude to the corporate ladder and the resultant wages.

Dead right. Young people in this country (myself included) are spoilt who for too long have had it too easy. My old man had nothing compared to me at the same age, yet he had the work ethic to start at the bottom and work his way up (civil engineer - now retired). I admit it has taken me a long longer to develop anything that resembles a work ethic, simply because I take it all for granted, even though I don't intend to.

I'm still on mid-high 30s and I'm 27 in about a week. I am very happy with that because I understand that I'm still developing. There's a reason why my boss is earning squillions - because he started at the bottom himself, gained some experience and also built up a client base, then went into business for himself with what he gained.

Bill Gates didn't become a millionaire overnight...

[xy500]

Originally Posted by GTpilot

Very narrow minded view.

Thats is the problem with the curent generation of uni and TAFE graduates. They think it is their right to walk straight into high paying management positions because they have done 4yrs of classrom learning and know everything.

Fact is grasshopper - You don't know crap!

You have no practical business operations knowledge and you have no real world industry work experience, you also do not know how to deal with people. Therefore, you get put at the bottom half of the ladder. you get dis heartend with starting wage, because it's not what you see advertised on seek for the more senior positions you believe you deserve because you think are capable of doing them. So off you go to dig holes for a living because the casual rate is better at the time.

Wake up sunshine, in 10 -15 yrs time your graduate mates will be earing triple what you are digging holes appling their trade/degree, by this time they WILL know what they are talking about, they will be in management positions or own their own company, because they got in at the bottom and stuck through the continued learning that is required.

Don't talk to me about skills shortage, talk to me about young peoples attitude to the corporate ladder and the resultant wages.

You're swinging a bit too far the other way here mate, you sound like another bloke blaming gen y for all the country's problems.
There is a serious problem with the way recruiting works, at least in WA, at the moment. You'll find that all except the very lucky uni graduates are very willing to accept a pittance of a wage and file documents/dig holes for their first positions out of uni. It's what i am doing, it is what everyone else i know who graduated in the last 2 years is doing.
There is extremely little employers who are willing to even employ graduates on this basis, i have lost out on several positions that were advertised as graduate, for people with little or no experience and paying rock bottom, for the position to be given to someone with 2+ years experience. Why a person with over 2 years experience is still applying for graduate positions is beyond me. But it's related to the problem of the time; no businesses are willing to train at the moment. They want someone who can walk straight into the position without being told how to do it, and then pay them minimum wage. For positions that demand strong technical knowledge and ability, this attitude makes no sense.

So because of this, people who are very able to work in technical positions are left performing menial tasks in order to pay the bills. Only to be later told that this experience isn't relevant, and they want someone who has x number of years using their specific program/performing their specific rationale/applying their specific model. It's a self defeating attitude when the businesses complain that no-one is available with the skills they are wanting.

People who blame gen y for the worlds problems only exacerbate this experience, funny because gen y doesn't decide how the system works, it is the generations in management.

I don't find low wages disheartening, or the need to work hard for years to build up my credibility. But I do find your attitudes are very disheartening. No uni graduates I know are whining about pay or conditions etc. They simply want a full time job. If you look at the youth unemployment level recently you'll find that a lot of people can't get any full time job, let alone one in the area and industry they've studied hard in.

[GTpilot]

Originally Posted by xy500

You're swinging a bit too far the other way here mate, you sound like another bloke blaming gen y for all the country's problems.
There is a serious problem with the way recruiting works, at least in WA, at the moment. You'll find that all except the very lucky uni graduates are very willing to accept a pittance of a wage and file documents/dig holes for their first positions out of uni. It's what i am doing, it is what everyone else i know who graduated in the last 2 years is doing.
There is extremely little employers who are willing to even employ graduates on this basis, i have lost out on several positions that were advertised as graduate, for people with little or no experience and paying rock bottom, for the position to be given to someone with 2+ years experience. Why a person with over 2 years experience is still applying for graduate positions is beyond me. But it's related to the problem of the time; no businesses are willing to train at the moment. They want someone who can walk straight into the position without being told how to do it, and then pay them minimum wage. For positions that demand strong technical knowledge and ability, this attitude makes no sense.

So because of this, people who are very able to work in technical positions are left performing menial tasks in order to pay the bills. Only to be later told that this experience isn't relevant, and they want someone who has x number of years using their specific program/performing their specific rationale/applying their specific model. It's a self defeating attitude when the businesses complain that no-one is available with the skills they are wanting.

People who blame gen y for the worlds problems only exacerbate this experience, funny because gen y doesn't decide how the system works, it is the generations in management.

I don't find low wages disheartening, or the need to work hard for years to build up my credibility. But I do find your attitudes are very disheartening. No uni graduates I know are whining about pay or conditions etc. They simply want a full time job. If you look at the youth unemployment level recently you'll find that a lot of people can't get any full time job, let alone one in the area and industry they've studied hard in.

By no means am I laying the blame soley on Generation Y.
And by NO MEANS am I talking about you here.
BUT, did you ever stop to think the reason you did not get the jobs was due to factors other than skillset?? Attude plays a BIG part in it. Now I'm not saying you have a bad attitude, the other guy may have been a better communicator and able to sell himself better. I have interviewed and recruited many people, and as a boss..IT is VERY hit and miss. Skills are also not Always what a boss is looking for. there are many other factors involved and I have hired people based on personality, skills can be taught along the way. it is no good having a team of people that are great at their job but do not get along. Nobody is happy and productivity falls.


By the time you have complete 4 yrs at UNI, IF you do not have a few years part time experience in your chose industry, IMHO, you are only interested in working for money, not passionate about your chosen career.

[xy500]

Originally Posted by GTpilot

By no means am I laying the blame soley on Generation Y.
And by NO MEANS am I talking about you here.
BUT, did you ever stop to think the reason you did not get the jobs was due to factors other than skillset?? Attude plays a BIG part in it. Now I'm not saying you have a bad attitude, the other guy may have been a better communicator and able to sell himself better. I have interviewed and recruited many people, and as a boss..IT is VERY hit and miss. Skills are also not Always what a boss is looking for. there are many other factors involved and I have hired people based on personality, skills can be taught along the way. it is no good having a team of people that are great at their job but do not get along. Nobody is happy and productivity falls.


By the time you have complete 4 yrs at UNI, IF you do not have a few years part time experience in your chose industry, IMHO, you are only interested in working for money, not passionate about your chosen career.

all the jobs I've been knocked back for, the reason given is that they gave the job to someone with more experience, I've had no bad feedback about my attitude from my employers or interviewers yet. But i know what you mean about the importance of attitude for a good fit in a company.

I've been looking to get as much experience in my industry as possible, unfortunately even part time work is very competitive, and I do not have time to work one job, while gaining experience with another. I need to get full time work so I can gain experience while earning enough to pay rent. Even fewer employers seem to be interested in part time employees.
I can guarantee I'm not interested in getting rich, science jobs don't pay great even at management level! If money was my main aim, I'd return to uni to finish my engineering degree I started.