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13-01-2006, 03:30 PM | #1 | ||
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Due to my job, I have to indulge in some interstate travel. Typically, this means either an 80 minute hop to Sydney or a more laborious 2 and a half hour flight to Melbourne. Working in the industry I do, the preferred option when it comes to booking flights is to get the cheapest available, a concept I have no issue with. Invariably, this means that I travel with Virgin Blue, the subject of today’s rant.
I’m no stranger to flying. Holidays from the UK took me as far afield as the US, South America, and many parts of Europe. I’ve racked up some serious hours sitting in airplane seats over the course of my life, and I have never really complained. The budget airlines in the UK were what you’d expect for a service so cheap (such as flights that cost ten quid each way) – you’re on a bus with wings. No seating allocation, no pretty air hostesses, but fortunately no livestock either. Now, Virgin Blue and Qantas are the 2 main carriers in this country. Provided you book more than a week in advance, the price difference is usually minimal. However, the experience is very different. There’s plenty to like about the service. I for one am glad that they’ve finally got around to sorting out a frequent flyer programme. I also like the web-check in facility, or even the quick check-in facility at the airport. It’s good. But what I hate about Virgin Blue is the “we’re all on crack” happiness that meanders throughout the cabin on every flight. I can’t stand it any longer, and I think next time I’m going to take one of the deliriously happy cabin crew by the throat and hold my rolled-up copy of Voyeur up to them and threaten to bash them repeatedly with it unless they calm the hell down. There are not there to make my flight as fun as possible. I want to get to Sydney, or Brisbane, or Melbourne or wherever. I’m usually tired because it’s either very early in the morning or late in the afternoon – I am not at my best at either of these times. I don’t want to have to listen to their cheery voices cracking jokes about the weather, the length of the flight, or indeed the time. And I certainly don’t want to be asked in that same loud and cheery voice whether I would like to order anything from the “A La Carte” (yes yes, very clever) menu when I very clearly have my eyes closed, head back and am snoozing. This irks me the most – what do I have to? Hang a DO NOT DISTURB sign from my nose? Don’t wake me up, don’t say anything and of course I don’t want anything from your bloody menu otherwise I would be sitting up in my seat, tray table down, wallet in hand, grinning inanely at you in the same way you are grinning at me. Oh what a lovely flight this is! Please, can we do it again?!? Could you tell me how you manage to apply your make-up with a shovel and not have it slip off your face?!? I flew on Qantas the other week, to Melbourne and back. I checked in with about the same sort of ease I experience at Virgin Blue. Chose my own seat, said good morning – the usual. And on the flight to Melbourne it was late afternoon so I took the chance to sample some food. Yes, food – free. Nothing to pay over and above my fare. After eating the food, I noted that there was more legroom in the seat, which when you’re 6 foot 4 is always a welcome treat. And on the way back, I put down my book after take-off and shut my eyes. It was another early evening flight, and how many times was I awoken to be offered food or drink? Not once. Not even twice. In fact, I was left undisturbed and snoozed soundly all the way home. That’s how air travel should be. The cabin crew should look after you, not annoy you, and most definitely stop popping ecstasy pills. The food should be mediocre at best, but free. Jokes about crashing/taking off/landing/people’s birthdays should not be shouted out over the PA. If I wanted interstate air travel to be exciting, I’d rather take one of Branson’s hot air balloons, rather than one of his red and blue 737s. Especially if they play Kelly Clarkson’s Breakaway while taxing. Again.
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13-01-2006, 03:39 PM | #2 | ||
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You can buy pills for "PMT" you know.
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13-01-2006, 03:40 PM | #3 | ||
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HA HA HA HA HA HA I love it! its so tru but! So vergin blue rip out jokes about crashing HA HA WTF
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13-01-2006, 03:47 PM | #4 | |||
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13-01-2006, 04:41 PM | #5 | |||
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13-01-2006, 03:40 PM | #6 | ||
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Here here mate, The last thing I want at 10:30pm coming home from a work trip after waking 4am that morning to catch the plane there, is to be asked to clench your own butt several times, in the interests of reducing the risk of DVT. If it was being asked for me to squeeze their ИИИИ tho it would be a different story :P
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13-01-2006, 03:43 PM | #7 | ||
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I flew to Hobart with virgin last year and it was terrible. The start of a long weekend of fun and frivolity. I was cramped(at 6'2") and bored. No food offered, but when I did order a round (3) or bundy cans, it was 20 odd bucks (I remember cos I had to get more schrapnel out)
Coming back I did byrnie the adelaide via melb with QANTAS. Great. On the first hop in a little dash-8, The hostess let me move to stretch out (she was pretty), then after she had handed out food and a drink of red or white wine to everyone, I got her chatting and she gave the remaining 2 half bottles to me and my mates gf to have. Second hop was better, with another meal on offer and unlimited beer and wine (had to pay for rum). Go the aussie carrier if you can.
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13-01-2006, 05:28 PM | #8 | |||
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Geez Neek,
That was a short rant???? At the end of the day, Virgin achieved what they have (and lets all be honest - its plenty) by not taking themselves too seriously really. And honestly mate I think that is what you are doing - is taking things too seriously. If you dont like the jokes - fine. Its understandable. But to get so worked up about it - well - surely you are better to expend your time and emotional energy into actually just letting stuff like that go instead of letting it get to you. Personally - I only ever fly Virgin Blue and love it! The fun and cheeky attitude is far better than Qantas's holier than thou, nose in the air attitude. Quote:
And your comments about "go the Aussie carrier if you can" just shows you really dont know what you are talking about. Virgin is more (far more) Australian than Qantas!!!!! Qantas has foreign ownership of the maximum allowable 49%. Virgin is majority owned by its executive members, Chris Corrigan/Patricks (all aussie there) and a small percentage of investors (people on the street). So much for all of Qantas's marketing garbage "I still call Australia...hooooome". Oh perlease. And Flappist - insinuating remarks about how Qantas actually does their maintenance (and therefore Virgin dont) is not on mate. Very poor form and you cant go anywhere near backing that statement up, and its a pretty serious one. I say more power to Virgin Blue. And if people only have the jokes onboard to complain about then I reckon they are doing an awesome job. |
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13-01-2006, 05:51 PM | #9 | |||
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CASA do a good job here maintaining the standard. As for the rest, if you are in the game then you will have already read the crash comics and seen who is star of the show.... If you are not then I suggest you do a bit of research..... My bona fides: I am a pilot who used to own a charter organisation. My best mate was a chief pilot for a turbine charter company. My second best mate is chief check & training for two classes of aircraft for another major aviation company. I know personally many fairly senior tech crew and am usually up to date with industry gossip (if you fly you will understand how this works). I see you are Brisbane based, you are not a DJ employee are you? |
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14-01-2006, 12:34 AM | #10 | |||
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But back on topic, you'll find an argument here for Jetstar, Virgin, QANTAS as much as you'll find arguments for why people will never buy a Holden or a Ford again. Nothing can be gained here more than a share in people's stories. I personally will never fly Jetstar again after 2 direct (me) and a couple of indirect (friends) bad experiences. I have however had nothing but extreme delight from Virgin from over 20+ flights with them over the years. I reckon Virgin have as much ability to burn me as Jetstar, just that now Virgin has given me such a high impression, it would be forgiveable of them to stuff up once or twice in terms of lateness, rudeness or some other inconvenience from a cranky steward. But that's me, and I'm sure the next guy will be equally impressed by Jetstar. Yay for competition coz if it wasn't for Virgin, you'd probably not be so happy to fly QANTAS when you had to mortgage a child each time you flew 1000km. Same goes for Holden. Let them keep building dog poo, it makes Ford look like it has the Midas touch. QANTAS are not a low-cost carrier and to assume that because their flights are more expensive and thus they are money hungry bastards is nothing short of ignorant and childish. Since when was running a profitable business dirty? The rest of you out there make profit from your customers no matter what business, how dare you all try to profit from the hard earned dollars of our general public, shame on you all. : QANTAS are not far away mostly on price from airlines that have dedicated low-cost methods built into their business plans from day one like Virgin and Jetstar. It is unfair and ignorant to expect QANTAS, a worldwide carrier to sustain daily prices at Virgin levels, hence they started Jetstar to do so and are still quite competitive qith them anyway mainly. Not bad for a major carrier to stay profitable whilst still trying to sell seats to Joe Bogan Average who only cares about his own back pocket and NOTHING else and competing with better service against lower cost carriers. I personally fly Virgin due to cost, yes they are cheaper, and because I have a little thing called loyalty that is hard earned, and Virgin deserve mine. I fly often enough that their price difference makes a difference to me but I don't slag off QANTAS. If you can't say anything nice, then shut the hell up.
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13-01-2006, 03:48 PM | #11 | ||
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I flew Virgin down to Melbourne a few months ago... Was a morning flight and they brought me all the Toohey's New I asked for... No complaints!
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13-01-2006, 03:51 PM | #12 | ||
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yeh i have to fly virgin for work and its pretty horrible. cattle class on qantas has more room than the second row on a virgin flight. i get more annoyed at the type of passenger on virgin. i seem to see families on qantas all the time but all my virgin flights have been packed with suited up business ****ers talking utter garbage to their fellow suited workmate. i mean there was a woman behind me yapping on about people driving slowly on the great ocean rd when her alfa 156 could get past them quicker. also try being on the same drugs the cabin crew are, it eases the burn.
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13-01-2006, 04:04 PM | #13 | ||
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i suppose you could always stare at the hostesses with all that makeup on imagine whats underneath those tight skirts . or you could have a hairy moustache who gives you a nasty look cause you want a drink. mmmmmmm oh and with the clamping but cheeks together . do they show you how its done???
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13-01-2006, 04:29 PM | #14 | ||
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JetStar...A1 flying with them again tomorrow...they are cool....
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13-01-2006, 04:34 PM | #15 | ||
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seriously though fly with someone else if you dont like it.
I would much rather fly with virgin blue for the fact you have a seat alotment. unlike jetstar. fly with qantas if you dont want happy staff. or charter your own plane. take a chill pill |
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13-01-2006, 04:42 PM | #16 | ||
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Mate I would rather put up with the happy faces than wait up to 6hrs for a flight 1hr not once many times and morbid faces on the hostess like Jetstar!
Maybe you need a private jet that might make you happy, rember you did say your not good when tired maybe thats realy the problem. |
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13-01-2006, 04:36 PM | #17 | ||
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Boy oh Boy, do you people complain
Virgin kills Jetstar Living where I do, I have the option of 1 Qantas flight a day (6.30am, returns at 8.15pm) this flight min is $150, more often closer to $300 one way, for the 45 min flight to melbourne, then there is Jetsar and Virgin, both start from $39 up to a normal price of around $69 Now if you havent flown Jetstar, never complain about leg room on a Virgin flight. On Jetstar you always look for the Emergency row, at least you can actually sit with your feet out. Also on a Virgin flight you get a seat allocated to you, Jetstar, lets fight for a seat, if plane is fullish, and you are traveling with otheres (ie friends or family) good chance you will be seperated. When you live in Tasmania, there are no other real options to travel, but fly, at least you mainlanders can drive, take the bus, take the train. |
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I am fortunate though, due to the high travel load our team at work have all been given "Qantas Preferred" status. That just means we pretty much always fly Qantas now (and get to get in as many free drinks as we can swallow in the Qantas Club before each flight). I now look away when passing the Virgin terminal.. horrible, horrible stuff. Oh, and you forgot to mention the "Blue Room". $5 to enter and then double price for everything you want in the, overcrowed to the max (if they even let you in) and generally CRAP!
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13-01-2006, 04:36 PM | #19 | ||
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I fly probably 50-60 times a year (mostly domestic) and Virgin beats Jetstar hands down!
The boarding process on Jetstar is pathetic! How hard is it to print a damn seat allocation number on your boarding pass, instead of creating an almighty stampede? As for Virgin's bright cheery attitude... Isn't that preferable to the scowls from Jetstar staff? I once witnessed a lady with 2 young children at Ballina airport who had arrived TWO minutes into Jetstar's 1/2 hr check-in cutoff.. And was refused a boarding pass! The plane she was supposed to board (coming from Sydney) hadn't even arrived.. Yet they maintained they were going by the book! She said, "ok when's the next flight".. their reply.. Tomorrow!! She ended up in tears... "where are I supposed to stay the night".. "Your problem lady". It was bloody disgusting! AND I reckon the clock they were going by was 5 mins out anyhow!
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13-01-2006, 04:40 PM | #20 | ||
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I wouldnt fly jetstar in a blind fit... work refuses to even consider them.
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If you are worried about leg room, then request an emergency seat, unless of course you dont want your sleep to be disturbed while all these screaming people 'on pills' are trying to escape the burning wreckage...rant over... :nutsycuck :P
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Dont think it happens? I have had a number of stand up "discussions" with Virgin over this practice.
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13-01-2006, 04:56 PM | #27 | ||
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I have the same view of "Deathstar" and "Green Can Dreaming". I will NOT fly on either. I have actually refused contracts because they sepecified either. This is now a pain in the bum as all the direct services from here (Hervey Bay) are on the aforementioned avaition black comedies.
When I travel (and I do a fair bit) I drive to Brisvegas and hop in the big tin bird with the white rat on the tail. Ok, sometimes the hostitutes, I mean cabin crew, can be a bit ordinary but the tech crew are top notch and the maintenance is actually done. Except when I am is strange places e.g. USA (scary), HK (scarier), China (aaaaggghhhhh!) I have two travel axioms. 1) If it doesn't have a big whit rat on it I will wait until later... 2) If it is not Boeing I am not going... |
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13-01-2006, 04:57 PM | #28 | ||
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and who said you got food on Qantas?
you call that food? Recently i did a trip from here to Cairns and back flying Qantas Business Class and even then the food was only just that back in economy its just, hmm , well not food |
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13-01-2006, 05:37 PM | #29 | ||
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This is what I dont understand! From the time Virgin Blue took of , They have always said they are a "NO FRILLS" airline and they are trying to keep the price of airfares low ! They are nearly Half what the opposition was charging to fly the same routes ! Now the opposition being Qantas offer flights at the same basic price providing you meet their criteria! If you areant lucky enough to meet these criteria they will happily charge you their normal rip off prices and leave you feeling like you just spent the night with BUBBA ( or Sourbastard ) in his cell ! I will never fly Qantas again after the Ansett affair because the prices they were charging were just out of the average persons reach and when opposition arrived they miraculously were able to find ways to compete with them price wise ! Qantas are Ripping us off and have no concience about doing it ! Every time I want to fly these days I use any other airline and if I turns out I must travel qantas ,even at the same low fare, I will drive or just not go ! Qantas can suck my jetstream cause I will never fly with them again !
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13-01-2006, 05:01 PM | #30 | ||
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I love the onbard saftey talk, theres a life jacket under the seat ( but in oz in most cases your flying over land ) so i suppose we just use them to bounce off the ground with, and my favourite, if we crash follow the strip lighting ? " ok passengers we have just hit a small hill and the plane looks worse than the one in the tv show LOST, but if you follow the strip lighting evrything will be fine"
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