Vfacts - may

[au2000]

Numbers are in

Top 10 Models

1 -Toyota HiLux – 5772

2 – Ford Ranger – 4110

3 – Tesla Model Y – 3178

4 – Toyota RAV4 – 2616

5 – MG ZS – 2502

6 – Isuzu D-Max – 2371

7 – Toyota LandCruiser – 2303

8 – Hyundai i30 – 2163

9 – Hyundai Tucson – 1911

10 – Mitsubishi Outlander – 1880

Source: VFacts

[Syndrome]

MG in 5th? Wow.

[au2000]

Cheap and nasty... .. cheap probably being its biggest benefit.. might become more of a factor as rates keep rising

[DFB FGXR6]

Ford Numbers -

Ford Escape – 321
Ford Everest – 812
Ford Fiesta – 10
Ford Focus – 4
Ford Mustang – 309
Ford Puma – 253
Ford Ranger 4x2 – 446
Ford Ranger 4x4 – 3664
Ford Transit Bus – 0
Ford Transit Custom – 403
Ford Transit Heavy – 29
Ford Total – 6251

Tansit Custom seemed to do well for the month.

Interesting to see so many Mustang's delivered. These would likely be fulfillment of some long-standing orders, but I expect the numbers to plumet as they transition to the new model, which won't hit Australia till early next year.

[DFB FGXR6]

Record month for RAM..................

https://www.drive.com.au/news/ram-re...a-us-pick-ups/

[DFB FGXR6]

Sales by country of origin -

Japan: 28,350, down 8.1 per cent

Thailand: 20,624, down 0.5 per cent

China: 17,958, up 118.8 per cent

Korea: 15,196, up 0.6 per cent

Germany: 4942, up 36.2 per cent

Sales by propulsion or fuel type -

Petrol: 52,327, up 10.6 per cent

Diesel: 32,113, down 3.9 per cent

Electric: 8124, up 778.3 per cent

Hybrid: 7600, down 3.7 per cent

PHEV: 791, up 13.8 per cent

Hydrogen FCEV: 0

[Franco Cozzo]

Ford Puma puts in laughable sales every month for a car they have stock of, the Mustang consistently outsells it - how long until it's culled like the Escape?

[kevino]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Ford Puma puts in laughable sales every month for a car they have stock of, the Mustang consistently outsells it - how long until it's culled like the Escape?

No no no.

I just did a quick check of Ford Ute South east Qld dealers=dealers have an average of 2 new Puma per dealer. Some have zero.

Melbourne may be different. Or Essendon Ford Ute may be different. Or Sunbury Ford Ute may be different.

But Ranger v Puma is ten to twenty times more stock.

So Ford of Europe are not sending them here-- popular in Europe or Ford Ute (Aus)are not bringing them in in quantity as they realised the name badge does not say Ranger or Everest and are confused.

Reports indicate electric Puma arrives end of 2024.

Petrol Puma will probably die then as there has been no''demand'' due to the fact Ford Ute didnt bring them in.

Interestingly there is a new Fiesta ST at Moreton Bay Ford in Brisbane.

[ToryMikey]

Originally Posted by kevino

No no no.

I just did a quick check of Ford Ute South east Qld dealers=dealers have an average of 2 new Puma per dealer. Some have zero.

Melbourne may be different. Or Essendon Ford Ute may be different. Or Sunbury Ford Ute may be different.

But Ranger v Puma is ten to twenty times more stock.

So Ford of Europe are not sending them here-- popular in Europe or Ford Ute (Aus)are not bringing them in in quantity as they realised the name badge does not say Ranger or Everest and are confused.

Reports indicate electric Puma arrives end of 2024.

Petrol Puma will probably die then as there has been no''demand'' due to the fact Ford Ute didnt bring them in.

Interestingly there is a new Fiesta ST at Moreton Bay Ford in Brisbane.

I find it interesting that you call this brand Ford Ute, considering they haven’t sold a ute since 2016.

They only have two models, an SUV with a closed boot area, and the same SUV with an open boot area.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by ToryMikey

I find it interesting that you call this brand Ford Ute, considering they haven’t sold a ute since 2016.

They only have two models, an SUV with a closed boot area, and the same SUV with an open boot area.

Technically they haven't sold a ute since the XH.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Ford Puma puts in laughable sales every month for a car they have stock of, the Mustang consistently outsells it - how long until it's culled like the Escape?

Stock? What stock?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Stock? What stock?

There was 7 new ones sitting in Essendon Ford Ute's yard last week, right in front of their showroom, so if you wanted a brand spanker you could walk into the dealership and get one of them sitting in the yard.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

There was 7 new ones sitting in Essendon Ford Ute's yard last week, right in front of their showroom, so if you wanted a brand spanker you could walk into the dealership and get one of them sitting in the yard.

I thought the same when I saw a stack of Rangers and a few Transit Customs (anything more than one down this way is a shock to dealer staff at Brighton Ford)...however they were all allocated and just awaiting their turn through PD.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Ford Puma puts in laughable sales every month for a car they have stock of, the Mustang consistently outsells it - how long until it's culled like the Escape?

Well 250 odd per month is nearly as much as the whole Jeep brand sells, so maybe it ain't so bad.



Ram Trucks Australia's record run is a stark contrast to the woes of its US stablemate Jeep, which has reported a 27 per cent slump to just 2014 new vehicles as sold so far this year and ranks 31st behind truck company Hino on the official sales tally.

Ouch.

[Franco Cozzo]

I rocked into Essendon Ford Ute and they had a stack of new ones right out the front of the showroom, so there's certainly new stock sitting at dealerships here in Melbourne, they're not unobtainium like other popular options are.

Model Y sales are strong, I wonder if this is because people choosing Model Y rather than Model 3 now there's a pavement princess SUV option.

[kevino]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I rocked into Essendon Ford Ute and they had a stack of new ones right out the front of the showroom, so there's certainly new stock sitting at dealerships here in Melbourne, they're not unobtainium like other popular options are.

Model Y sales are strong, I wonder if this is because people choosing Model Y rather than Model 3 now there's a pavement princess SUV option.

I did preference my comment that maybe its different at Ford Ute Eseendon.

Ford Ute may preference Melb dealers because its closer to Webb Dock incurring lower distribution costs.

I dont understand Model Y. It s incredibly ugly.

[ToryMikey]

Originally Posted by kevino

I dont understand Model Y. It s incredibly ugly.

Agreed. The styling is offensive to the eye.

[kevino]

Re Puma
Top selling vehicle in UK for May 4184 sales with delays to get one

It sort of confirms that Ford Ute Aus just can’t get the right numbers of a Puma situation normal.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by kevino

Re Puma
Top selling vehicle in UK for May 4184 sales with delays to get one

It sort of confirms that Ford Ute Aus just can’t get the right numbers of a Puma situation normal.

The only volume vehicles that Ford can get is Ranger and Everest …….we’ll, kinda sorta.
Ford Europe sends us what they can spare which is virtually nothing……

Has anyone heard anything about F150 sales or is that not happening yet?

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by jpd80

The only volume vehicles that Ford can get is Ranger and Everest …….we’ll, kinda sorta.
Ford Europe sends us what they can spare which is virtually nothing……

Has anyone heard anything about F150 sales or is that not happening yet?

https://www.drive.com.au/news/ram-re...a-us-pick-ups/

"Ford says it is on track to start local deliveries of the F-150 in the second half of this year, while the Toyota Tundra is due to formally go on sale next year if a trial of the first 300 validation vehicles proves successful."

Knowing Ford, that will probably end up being the second half of next year.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Knowing Ford, that will probably end up being the second half of next year.

... because they'll be converting RHD F150s back to LHD to plug shortages in LHD markets.

[anobserver]

Originally Posted by kevino

Re Puma
Top selling vehicle in UK for May 4184 sales with delays to get one

It sort of confirms that Ford Ute Aus just can’t get the right numbers of a Puma situation normal.

I recall when the Focus used to be a top UK seller. But always struggled to sell against the Corolla and 3 here, which were first pick of the private buyers that typically bought them.

With the puma, i wonder if its a chicken and egg thing. Few want them, so FOA scale down the orders, and on it goes. Maybe they're trying to focus on (sorry) selling more profitable mustangs and rangers.

A little surprised that theres still a market for relatively expensive dual cabs, given rate rises. But that's another story.

[kevino]

Talking about Hino

Hino and Fuso to merge in 2024

Source go auto.com.au

[DFB FGXR6]

So the collective we are now referencing the pick-up market as the Thailand Special segment.

Why do I get the feeling that we will all soon be all calling Ford by the name of Ford Ute?

[FTE217]

last update I saw was expectations to showrooms from July on.....

So whats the big flip going on here

1 -Toyota HiLux – 5772

2 – Ford Ranger – 4110

New arrivals for the ol platform Toy and Ford Ute sold out not enough back in ?
Huge flip.
Christ LC pumped up, more new stock arrived and those RRP's arn't cheap.

Why can't they get enough Everests.
Large SUV < $70k Toyota Prado (1435) Isuzu MU-X (1110) Ford Everest (812)

Fugly Prado again old but still there and fugly MUX omg.
Will Everest ever make the ground to challenge or do consumer/s and Fleets just see Prado as the out and out 4x4 SUV and better support for parts etc....

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by FTE217

l
Christ LC pumped up, more new stock arrived and those RRP's arn't cheap.

Yes, they must be filling some orders as I never seen so many new ones getting about here.

[OLDBLOKE]

Originally Posted by FTE217

last update I saw was expectations to showrooms from July on.....

So whats the big flip going on here

1 -Toyota HiLux – 5772

2 – Ford Ranger – 4110

New arrivals for the ol platform Toy and Ford Ute sold out not enough back in ?
Huge flip.
Christ LC pumped up, more new stock arrived and those RRP's arn't cheap.

Why can't they get enough Everests.
Large SUV < $70k Toyota Prado (1435) Isuzu MU-X (1110) Ford Everest (812)

Fugly Prado again old but still there and fugly MUX omg.
Will Everest ever make the ground to challenge or do consumer/s and Fleets just see Prado as the out and out 4x4 SUV and better support for parts etc....

Prado is in a different class, the others are ute based, Prado is a stand alone model. Fortuner is Toyota's ute based suv.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by OLDBLOKE

Prado is in a different class, the others are ute based, Prado is a stand alone model. Fortuner is Toyota's ute based suv.

That’s generally what Prado fans say, look at any quality vehicle comparison and the Everest IS well and truly a match for the Prado and IS in the same class.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by OLDBLOKE

Prado is in a different class, the others are ute based, Prado is a stand alone model. Fortuner is Toyota's ute based suv.

Prado and US Tacoma Ute are on the same platform

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by FTE217

last update I saw was expectations to showrooms from July on.....

So whats the big flip going on here

1 -Toyota HiLux – 5772

2 – Ford Ranger – 4110

New arrivals for the ol platform Toy and Ford Ute sold out not enough back in ?
Huge flip.
Christ LC pumped up, more new stock arrived and those RRP's arn't cheap.

Why can't they get enough Everests.
Large SUV < $70k Toyota Prado (1435) Isuzu MU-X (1110) Ford Everest (812)

Fugly Prado again old but still there and fugly MUX omg.
Will Everest ever make the ground to challenge or do consumer/s and Fleets just see Prado as the out and out 4x4 SUV and better support for parts etc....

It's getting vehicles into the country that is the problem. Fords holding yards in Thailand are full, they have boats full of cars waiting to dock due to quarantine hold ups, so ships are being further delayed getting back to Thailand to pick up new loads. It's an absolute clusterfk.

So the monthly figures are basically dependent on how many ships you can get to dock. And then not get flagged in quarantine for cleaning, which is being further and further backlogged. Ford have even reverted to having cleaning crews actually on the ships to double check everything to hopefully avoid being flagged for cleaning. But quarantine inspectors are being so over zealous they will literally flag a whole boat for cleaning if they even find the slightest little bit of contamination.

As you can see with the results, they are up and down like yo-yo's. Everest outsold Prado for a few months because they couldn't get supply, now Prado has gone back to the top after getting decent supplies, while heaps of Everests sit on boats. All you can really do is take the average over quarters, halves and full years to get an accurate number.