MD quality

[Focused]

Hi all, I'm weighing up my options and considering a MD Titanium although I'm a bit nervous about the quality now that they're putting them together in Spain (I think??)
Has anyone with the new MD model had any issues?

[cobrin]

in what way?

it's way to early to tell but fit and finish is as you'd expect....well built and no fitment issues. Not one electrical glitch nor mechanical issue. It drives so nice, it's a place I want to be in. Though the vehicle has just under 2K kms.

[Focused]

Originally Posted by cobrin

in what way?

it's way to early to tell but fit and finish is as you'd expect....well built and no fitment issues. Not one electrical glitch nor mechanical issue. It drives so nice, it's a place I want to be in. Though the vehicle has just under 2K kms.

Every way. Fit and finish and the electronics (of which there's a lot to go wrong).
I'm glad to hear that yours was well built. Which model do you have?

[cobrin]

Originally Posted by Focused

Every way. Fit and finish and the electronics (of which there's a lot to go wrong).
I'm glad to hear that yours was well built. Which model do you have?

Not mine, my folks, MD 2015 Titanium. I've only done a few hundred K's in it but have gone over it with a keen eye as my folks weren't available to be there to pick it up. OS fifo with 6-8mths waiting. They almost pulled the pin and went elsewhere but they argued enough to get one from a dealer in Melbourne that sat there in the showroom.

[NZ XR6]

They built a brand new plant in Spain to make the new model. Ford have been making cars there for many years.

I wouldn't worry, in fact I'd expect quality to be better as the old factory in Belgium was apparently way past its Use By date.

[NZ XR6]

There have been stories like this for years on AFF. Ford AU really need to get over it and realise what a good car the Mondeo is.

There are quite a few new models on the road in NZ, and they are certainly a great looking car.

[Paulg05]

No issues with mine so far ( done nearly 10k ) A/C performance is excellent on these toasty Melbourne 40°C days

[Focused]

Originally Posted by Paulg05

No issues with mine so far ( done nearly 10k ) A/C performance is excellent on these toasty Melbourne 40°C days

Originally Posted by cobrin

in what way?

it's way to early to tell but fit and finish is as you'd expect....well built and no fitment issues. Not one electrical glitch nor mechanical issue. It drives so nice, it's a place I want to be in. Though the vehicle has just under 2K kms.

Sounds good, thanks. What model do you have?

My MA TDCI's air con struggled during summer.

[Paulg05]

Originally Posted by Focused

Sounds good, thanks. What model do you have?

My MA TDCI's air con struggled during summer.

I have a Trend Spec TDCi. No real complaints about it being sluggish.
I tend to only use either Caltex Vortex or BP Ultimate Diesel. I have heard stories of people using different Diesels and getting poor performance and economy. In saying that with around 10k on the clock and about 80% of my driving on open roads i'm getting 5.8 L per 100km's according to the Trip Computer.

[cobrin]

I have a 2009 MB Zetec TDCI, my folks have the latest 2015 MD Titanium Ecoboost

[Focused]

Originally Posted by cobrin

I have a 2009 MB Zetec TDCI, my folks have the latest 2015 MD Titanium Ecoboost

Thanks mate. I'd be looking at the MD Titanum EB too (I drove a TDCI Trend a few months ago and found is reasonably sluggish). What fuel figures are they getting and will I have to use either 95 or 98 octane (or can i get away with 91 without ethanol)?

[NZ XR6]

Seems strange that a TDCi would feel sluggish. But I doubt that any turbo would be happy on 91 - they are Euro engines intended for 95 minimum.

[Binny]

Originally Posted by NZ XR6

Seems strange that a TDCi would feel sluggish. But I doubt that any turbo would be happy on 91 - they are Euro engines intended for 95 minimum.

The TDCi can be very tight when it's new and take quite a while to loosen up.
When I got my new focus I used to stall it backing out the driveway quite a lot and it's power delivery was like a light switch when it came on boost because it would barely go without the turbo helping things out.
By about 10 thousand or so it had become impossible to stall and went like the clappers.

[cobrin]

ULP or PULP E10 Compatible

http://www.ford.com.au/cars/mondeo/s...s/spec-options

[NZ XR6]

Originally Posted by Binny

The TDCi can be very tight when it's new and take quite a while to loosen up.
When I got my new focus I used to stall it backing out the driveway quite a lot and it's power delivery was like a light switch when it came on boost because it would barely go without the turbo helping things out.
By about 10 thousand or so it had become impossible to stall and went like the clappers.

The diesels take a long time to fully run in. I'd say that my MB kept improving until about 50,000 km, as the fuel economy gradually improved until it's now consistently 5.8 - 6 l/100km on trips.

[NZ XR6]

Originally Posted by cobrin

ULP or PULP E10 Compatible

http://www.ford.com.au/cars/mondeo/s...s/spec-options

Doesn't state what octane though.

My 2.3 MA petrol was delivered with a full tank of 91. That was the only time it was ever run on 91!

[Focused]

Originally Posted by NZ XR6

Doesn't state what octane though.

My 2.3 MA petrol was delivered with a full tank of 91. That was the only time it was ever run on 91!

Ford dealers... Treating customers like crap since 1903.*

* See, this is another concern I have. I can spend $50K at a Ford dealer (on a MD Titanium) and get treated like crap, or spend the same amount (or even less) at a Volvo or VW dealer and be worshiped like a God. Same with an entry level Benz or BMW.

*shakes head*

[NZ XR6]

Originally Posted by Focused

Ford dealers... Treating customers like crap since 1903.*

* See, this is another concern I have. I can spend $50K at a Ford dealer (on a MD Titanium) and get treated like crap, or spend the same amount (or even less) at a Volvo or VW dealer and be worshiped like a God. Same with an entry level Benz or BMW.

*shakes head*

Ford dealers in NZ are usually good. I seriously considered buying a Passat earlier this year, very pleased that I didn't! Plus my MB Mondeo is a nicer car to drive IMHO.

[Focused]

Originally Posted by NZ XR6

Ford dealers in NZ are usually good. I seriously considered buying a Passat earlier this year, very pleased that I didn't! Plus my MB Mondeo is a nicer car to drive IMHO.

It's interesting to see that Ford are a lot more popular in NZ than they are in Australia. Maybe the dealers are a big factor?

[cobrin]

Originally Posted by NZ XR6

Doesn't state what octane though.

why does it need to?

Premium is Premium, 95-98
ULP (Regular Unleaded) 91

no doubt it's elaborated on in the Owners Manual but ULP or PULP is as simple as it gets. Might need a lil more brain power to process but it's straightforward.

[NZ XR6]

Originally Posted by Focused

It's interesting to see that Ford are a lot more popular in NZ than they are in Australia. Maybe the dealers are a big factor?

I'm sure that's part of it. Also, the ride and handling balance of the Ford range seems to suit our poor quality country roads. I haven't driven another car that I would prefer to my MB wagon.

[Craig@AUDI]

Got a Diesel Titanium in stock if your keen.

Can even fill it with 91 if you like, but runs better on dsl!

[NZ XR6]

Originally Posted by cobrin

why does it need to?

Premium is Premium, 95-98
ULP (Regular Unleaded) 91

no doubt it's elaborated on in the Owners Manual but ULP or PULP is as simple as it gets. Might need a lil more brain power to process but it's straightforward.

We buy petrol by octane rating here. ULP is unleaded petrol and could be 91, 95 or 98.

[cobrin]

Originally Posted by NZ XR6

We buy petrol by octane rating here. ULP is unleaded petrol and could be 91, 95 or 98.

I get a sense of where you're going, good for you.

[NX74205]

It's not perfect. If I'm really picky, the silver plastic trim that runs all the way around the centre stack looks and feels a bit cheap, and the tailgate and front bumper alignment may be slightly off, build quality of the MD is, in my view, way better than anything else Ford has done in recent history.

I've signed the papers today for a new MD Titanium Ecoboost hatch, subject to my satisfactory inspection when the car arrives. I'll be going over it with a fine toothcomb before deciding whether or not to accept delivery.

[NZ XR6]

Originally Posted by cobrin

I get a sense of where you're going, good for you.

It's just different terminology. If you told someone in NZ to fill their car with PULP, they'd have no idea what you were talking about. Our vehicle specs always state the octane.

Ford in the US specify 87 octane, but 91 for best performance. They use a different method to determine octane, and our 91 is about the same as the US 87.

Merry Christmas everyone.

[borntoshop666]

i took Delivery of my new Company Car in mid August, MD Mondeo Ambiente TDCI Wagon in Deep Impact Blue. To date I have done 32000 km without any Problems.
Panel Fit and Finish is very good but I have seen some examples where the Tailgate doesn't line up very well.
Paint is very good.
No Rattles but there is a consistent Squeak inside the Front Door Trim, can be a bit annoying.
Engine has loosened up now but was very tight in the beginning.
The Steering is not as direct and communicative as in my MB and MC.
No Problems with the Interior Fit and Finish but the Silver Trim looks and feels a bit cheap.
I miss my Wheel Backrest Adjustment, as it now has a Lever.
The Suspension is softer than it was in my MB Titanium or MC LX, but in return it is so much more quiet and compliant over rough Surfaces.
One Design Fault I discovered is, that when you have the Centre Vents turned up all the Way, Phone Conversations sound like I am in a Wind Tunnel. the Air blows straight into the Microphones in the Roof Console. they need to be turned down half way.
Air Con works much better than in previous Models.
Average Fuel Use is 6-7l in Sydney Traffic.
Space out back is also a bit tighter than before but all in all, I would get one if I had to pay for it [I would get a Titanium though in Panther Black]
cheers and Merry Christmas

[Focused]

Originally Posted by borntoshop666

i took Delivery of my new Company Car in mid August, MD Mondeo Ambiente TDCI Wagon in Deep Impact Blue. To date I have done 32000 km without any Problems.
Panel Fit and Finish is very good but I have seen some examples where the Tailgate doesn't line up very well.
Paint is very good.
No Rattles but there is a consistent Squeak inside the Front Door Trim, can be a bit annoying.
Engine has loosened up now but was very tight in the beginning.
The Steering is not as direct and communicative as in my MB and MC.
No Problems with the Interior Fit and Finish but the Silver Trim looks and feels a bit cheap.
I miss my Wheel Backrest Adjustment, as it now has a Lever.
The Suspension is softer than it was in my MB Titanium or MC LX, but in return it is so much more quiet and compliant over rough Surfaces.
One Design Fault I discovered is, that when you have the Centre Vents turned up all the Way, Phone Conversations sound like I am in a Wind Tunnel. the Air blows straight into the Microphones in the Roof Console. they need to be turned down half way.
Air Con works much better than in previous Models.
Average Fuel Use is 6-7l in Sydney Traffic.
Space out back is also a bit tighter than before but all in all, I would get one if I had to pay for it [I would get a Titanium though in Panther Black]
cheers and Merry Christmas

Thanks for the comments. Hmmm.... more food for thought. I figured that if I'm going to get one, I might as well get a Titanium although I'm not sure I can afford it... Too much travel planned for 2016 :(

[cobrin]

Originally Posted by NZ XR6

It's just different terminology. If you told someone in NZ to fill their car with PULP, they'd have no idea what you were talking about.

I don't live in the US
I don't live in NZ
and I don't live in China

I live in AUS. and here if you said ULP or PULP everyone is on the same page, on the flip side if you put a mars bar in the oven we Aussies don't have a clue what you're on about.

Merry Christmass fordforums.com.au

[NZ XR6]

Originally Posted by cobrin

I don't live in the US
I don't live in NZ
and I don't live in China

I live in AUS. and here if you said ULP or PULP everyone is on the same page, on the flip side if you put a mars bar in the oven we Aussies don't have a clue what you're on about.

Merry Christmass fordforums.com.au

Yeah got that mate. And I've never heard that one either, but it's not hard to figure out what it means. Dunno if you've been here, but don't bother - you won't like it.