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24-06-2011, 02:57 PM | #1 | ||
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g'day guys,
blocks vs reset leafs anyone have any comments? cheers
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24-06-2011, 03:01 PM | #2 | ||
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don't know about SA but blocks are illegal in most states
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24-06-2011, 04:15 PM | #3 | |||
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The bigger concern with them is that if you use blocks that are too big they can cause the shock to hit the wheel. Nolathane for example only recommend a 1" block for use on XR models because they have 17" wheels.
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24-06-2011, 05:33 PM | #4 | |||
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Actual Steel designed lowering blocks are legal in NSW.... also, using lowering blocks = get away with only replacing shocks with standard items
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24-06-2011, 03:49 PM | #5 | ||
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Blocks allow a lot of diff wind up and axle tramp.
The correct height springs are much better.
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24-06-2011, 04:18 PM | #6 | ||
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I had a block snap the 2 top leaf's once and the ride was crap as i beleive they change how central your diff is or something like that had the tyres scrub on the inside rail on one side went back to xr leaf's and no wazza's
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24-06-2011, 05:29 PM | #7 | ||
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Reset the leaves, blocks are a bad compromise, (see Sox's post above).
Blocks are illegal in Qld.
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11-07-2011, 09:43 PM | #8 | ||
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any one know roughly how much to get leafs reset if removed already
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11-07-2011, 10:17 PM | #9 | ||
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Pedder's quoted me, $60 each.
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11-07-2011, 10:29 PM | #10 | |||
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i got mine reset at betta springs in dandenong $220 i cant complain 3.5 inch drop(ish) sits just above the tyre looks good, same cannot be said about the ride quality though! |
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12-07-2011, 07:46 AM | #11 | |||
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How do they work out at what height to reset them without them being seen on the car? GK
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11-07-2011, 10:54 PM | #12 | ||
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nice well in price range
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12-07-2011, 08:12 AM | #13 | ||
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WOW $60 . From memory last set i got done at Redcliffe springs was about $220 as well. As for the height you need to know where they sit in the car and give them the dimension you want them reset. They then do their magic and usually right to the mm
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12-07-2011, 04:35 PM | #14 | ||
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Sorry, that didn't include the labour of removing them. That was what they were going to charge me as part of a complete repair.
As for height - I have no idea. They are a Pedders part so I guess they have some spec' for them.
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12-07-2011, 06:43 PM | #15 | ||
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leafs
just to clarify, lowering blocks are legal as such but fitting longer non standard shackles is not and you need longer shackles to fit lowering blocks
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12-07-2011, 07:05 PM | #16 | ||
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longer shackles it what 4wd owners do to get more suspension lift
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12-07-2011, 09:53 PM | #17 | |||
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12-07-2011, 10:52 PM | #18 | |||
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13-07-2011, 07:55 AM | #19 | |||
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If you do go with lowering blocks, you can only run an 8" rim on the rear and a max block size of 1.5".
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29-07-2011, 07:21 AM | #20 | |||
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16-07-2011, 10:54 PM | #21 | ||
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Jc , I run lowered springs, 1" blocks and 9.5" rim (20x9.5") , no problem.
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17-07-2011, 10:12 AM | #22 | |||
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17-07-2011, 06:50 PM | #23 | ||
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Not sure why so many people get bent out shape about lowering blocks, I ran them for years in all the utes I've owned. Not that I'm the benchmark or anything...
Only dramas I've ever had are with reputable "brand name" replacement leaf springs. I know I would certainly use blocks again over replacement leaf springs that lose their spring tension after 2 years...
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17-07-2011, 07:02 PM | #24 | |||
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simple fact is they are dangerous, saying you have had no problems with them is like saying I've been driving drunk for years without a problem so it must be safe, but both cases are an accident waiting to happen
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17-07-2011, 09:31 PM | #25 | ||
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Not wanting to start anything, or wind up in some pi$$ing contest, but how exactly are they dangerous? Seriously, I would love to know.
And FWIW, driving around with lowering blocks is not akin to drink driving, so please don't apply that sort of pseudo logic.
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17-07-2011, 09:35 PM | #26 | |||
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18-07-2011, 01:53 PM | #27 | ||
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i've been running blocks in my au wagon for ages no probs.
they are legal here in NZ,anything up to 2 inches are allowed.
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28-07-2011, 09:08 PM | #28 | ||
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i had lowered leafs in my xr6 ute for 3 years, they were 60mm lower than xr height, had to replace all springs for roadworthy when i sold it, front and back, apparantly when full laden i had 50mm clearance, but my xr8 that i have now has 40mm blocks which i had to buy a spare 18 inch rim for the spare, ive taken them out a few times which is handy when i tow the boat on long trips
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19-08-2011, 12:20 PM | #29 | ||
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This is quite contraversial, and not to disregard the obvious mechanical knowledge of people on this forum, i would like to hear from an engineer on the legalities and potential damage or risks that blocks may cause.
Often people, including myself, make modifications to cars that pose possible danger to causing damage and thus risk of an accident, so as popular and unpopular as lowering blocks are, im reading just as much negative feedback about lowered leafs as i am blocks.
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29-08-2011, 09:10 PM | #30 | ||
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i have a s2 wag, 1.5 inch lowering blocks you definatly need at least 18 inch rims prob an 18 inch spare (i dont) would be handy, i have 18s plus i lug around tools havent had any problems, i also tow a trailer sometimes. They were really easy to install got the kit off ebay $70 everything included bolted straight on. As for performance havent noticed anything different then stock.
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